Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Ghost93

Ghost93

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Originally Disney claimed the Snow White photos were fake, but now it's been confirmed that they are real (although that is not Rachel Zegler, but a stand-in).

I have a feeling this is going to be a huge bomb. We already got two major live-action Snow Whites not so long ago — Snow White and the Huntsman and Mirror Mirror.

Also, while I don't mind the race-bending and gender-swapping of the dwarves (are they still dwarves now?), I think it will be about as well received by the general public as the changes made to the Lost Boys in this year's Peter Pan movie.
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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Ghost93 said:
Originally Disney claimed the Snow White photos were fake, but now it's been confirmed that they are real (although that is not Rachel Zegler, but a stand-in).

I have a feeling this is going to be a huge bomb. We already got two major live-action Snow Whites not so long ago — Snow White and the Huntsman and Mirror Mirror.

Also, while I don't mind the race-bending and gender-swapping of the dwarves (are they still dwarves now?), I think it will be about as well received by the general public as the changes made to the Lost Boys in this year's Peter Pan movie.
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This does look bad, and I think it too will not do well. It looks like a SyFy channel cash in on public domain property. As a child of the 80’s I have a fondness for cheaply produced dreck one might see on syndicated television, just not in multimillion dollar tentpole films.
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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Real or not, Snow White is going to be a bomb among bombs. I can't even see the movie making $100 million domestic to be honest. And that from a person who was a full supporter of TLM and everything it stood for.

But that photo is clearly full of stand-ins. Otherwise it looks like bad cosplay of "something" or a really bad SNL skit or a mockery of everything Disney has tried to do. I mean-WOW!
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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Jedijax719 said:
Real or not, Snow White is going to be a bomb among bombs. I can't even see the movie making $100 million domestic to be honest. And that from a person who was a full supporter of TLM and everything it stood for.

But that photo is clearly full of stand-ins. Otherwise it looks like bad cosplay of "something" or a really bad SNL skit or a mockery of everything Disney has tried to do. I mean-WOW!
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It looks like a mishmash of the cosplay episodes of the Hawkeye show and that needless Rings of Power series.
 
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GimpYancIent

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The dismal state of the movie industry with the viewing public not exactly enthused to go to sit down movie theaters gives the production companies the leverage over the actors and screen writers. Production companies, such as Disney, are now motivated to cut back on generating movies plus reduce costs, in addition the viewing public is indifferent (at best) toward the writers and actors.
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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Casper Gutman said:
Mission: Impossible had a worse 5-day domestic opening then Indiana Jones.

The current box office is stupid and I hate it. But it ain't a Disney problem.
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Exactly. Some people can't get that through their heads. People would much rather sit and stare at their phones all day than spend 2-3 hours watching a movie.

If Barbie becomes the biggest hit of the summer, good luck to all studios trying to decipher what the heck that means for movies in general.
 
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celluloid

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Haunted Mansion would have a chance at being a moderate hit but has a big mature movie Oppenheimer coming out and Barbi is a name enough for people to take family to.

It won't have legs due to lack of quality.

Lean times.
 
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celluloid

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Casper Gutman said:
Mission: Impossible had a worse 5-day domestic opening then Indiana Jones.

The current box office is stupid and I hate it. But it ain't a Disney problem.
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Relatively still on track for its franchise. Second highest opening that franchise has had.

Yeah, movies box office numbers are not great, but the options are not really either.

Indy had the lowest performing compared to its budget and anticipated goals. That is the key difference. It also had a five day weekend that included a Fourth of July Holiday. Mission Impossible did not. We are talking about justifying that Mission Impossible 5 did slightly less than an INDIANA JONES movie and a FINALE to Indiana Jones.
You will look silly.
All of Hollywood has the problems it has, but Disney has a bigger one. Their animation releases are less than meh and live actions have become meh for their budgets.

Sound of Freedom by Angel Studios is the winner this summer.
 
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TsWade2

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I’ll try not to say it’s the end of Hollywood or Disney, but to me, Bob Iger and other CEOs from companies needs to hurry up and make a fair deal to end the writers and actors strike. It has to end. Sorry to be impatient, but it’s better than being doom and gloom.
 
Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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I had said during the pandemic that people should alter their expectations for box office results. I predicted we could be seeing 2014 results pretty much every year. That is fine. How that affects studios is a different story for studios to deal with. However, it does come back around when studios want to spend less and make less quality movies. In turn, that affects box office further. And it results in strikes we are seeing because the studios are not willing to pay people.

Give people reasons to go to the theater. Make movies like virtual rides at amusement parks or something.
 
Casper Gutman

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celluloid said:
Relatively still on track for its franchise. Second highest opening that franchise has had.

Yeah, movies box office numbers are not great, but the options are not really either.

Indy had the lowest performing compared to its budget and anticipated goals. That is the key difference. It also had a five day weekend that included a Fourth of July Holiday. Mission Impossible did not. We are talking about justifying that Mission Impossible 5 did slightly less than an INDIANA JONES movie and a FINALE to Indiana Jones.
You will look silly.
All of Hollywood has the problems it has, but Disney has a bigger one. Their animation releases are less than meh and live actions have become meh for their budgets.

Sound of Freedom by Angel Studios is the winner this summer.
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M:I is a franchise that has been consistently releasing installments for the last 20 years and stars the last actual movie star.

The last well received Indiana Jones film was 34 years ago and there has been one, universally derided installment in the interim.

And yes, one strategy for impressive box office numbers is to have one of the largest religious movements in the country telling people they should see a movie, buying out entire theaters, and urging the faithful to buy extra tickets they don't intend to use. But it's not a strategy I'd want to see widely adopted.
 
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celluloid

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Casper Gutman said:
M:I is a franchise that has been consistently releasing installments for the last 20 years and stars the last actual movie star.

The last well received Indiana Jones film was 34 years ago and there has been one, universally derided installment in the interim.

And yes, one strategy for impressive box office numbers is to have one of the largest religious movements in the country telling people they should see a movie, buying out entire theaters, and urging the faithful to buy extra tickets they don't intend to use. But it's not a strategy I'd want to see widely adopted.
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Facts financially speaking man. You said it yourself, MI has been releasing films consistently, that goes for performance too. This one is right on par with how the others have been received.

Misison Imposisble has only had two of its films break the 200 million mark domestically. The latest release is par for its course. Indiana, fell off its charts.

Even the panned Crystal Skull film of Indiana hit 317 million domestically.

So either out of spite, or the newest movie genuinely was not that great to most, or both, the result is the same. Disney has the bigger problem than any studio. The giant fell a lot further.

And to your last point, it is irrelevant. Marketing is marketing. Whatever sells tickets. Just like nostalgia, shock value or basing something off of a theme park ride.
 
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TP2000

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GimpYancIent said:
in addition the viewing public is indifferent (at best) toward the writers and actors.
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Hollywood actors and actresses are among the least essential workers in America, and it doesn't help that they are thought of as snobby elites who look down their noses at nearly everyone living east of Palm Springs or west of Philadelphia.

The vast majority of Americans don't care about the Hollywood strike. And it's not 1980, so it's not like we're suddenly starved for entertainment when we only had 3 channels and PBS to choose from. So who cares?
 

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