Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

TsWade2

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I was going to say something, but after seeing this doom and gloom more from Wish, I don't want to be part of this!
Super Bowl Ok GIF by Pepsi
 

TP2000

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What did you think of Madonna?

I liked her at first, and her first few singles were great, but then by '86 or so I was less enamored. She seemed to be more into shock and scandal than great songs you could dance to. By the late 80's I had learned to ignore her, and it's worked ever since.

And as an official older person, I find it baffling how badly and ungraciously she has aged. The plastic surgery and implants and laser treatments make her look awful and patently ridiculous. I say that as a man who got one (1) Botox treatment about a decade ago, took one look at myself in the mirror, and laughed my butt off at myself. Just get old, it's easier.
 

el_super

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A little more perspective on the failures at the Box Office and Flower Moon specifically:

Cinemas that survived the pandemic are still trying to find their footing during the streaming boom; as much as 15 percent of the moviegoing population hasn’t yet returned to theaters, according to data collected by Hollywood studios. This applies especially to older adults, the target audience for Killers of the Flower Moon and Christopher Nolan’s Oppenheimer, which runs three hours. These longer films mean fewer showtimes, too, which compounds concerns for cinemas when it comes to ticket sales.
According to the film website What to Watch, the average length of the top 10 movies in 2022 was two hours and 21 minutes, compared to one hour and 50 minutes in 1981. While it’s true that three of the four top-grossing movies of all time at the global box office — Avengers: Endgame, Avatar: The Way of Water and Titanic — run longer than three hours, Vue Cinemas head Tim Richards says that doesn’t mean customers shouldn’t have options.
So Richards engineered a test in which Vue offered its U.K. customers the choice to see Killers of the Flower Moon in one interrupted viewing or with a 15-minute intermission (in Europe they’re known as “intervals” or “comfort breaks”).



 

celluloid

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More people than 2021 and 2022 have gone to the box office. While I don't know the official count of next year's theatrical release number (I can't get a count and things change) it would be a decent bet to presume about the same number of films release next year, even with the Pandemic.

Now that I have seen Minus one and taking the kids to see Migration, the next big things for me to even look forward to are Argyle and Ghostbusters.

Theater attendance continues to grow. Some brands continue to diminish.
 

Phroobar

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More people than 2021 and 2022 have gone to the box office. While I don't know the official count of next year's theatrical release number (I can't get a count and things change) it would be a decent bet to presume about the same number of films release next year, even with the Pandemic.

Now that I have seen Minus one and taking the kids to see Migration, the next big things for me to even look forward to are Argyle and Ghostbusters.

Theater attendance continues to grow. Some brands continue to diminish.
Argyle does look a lot of fun. What about Wonka?
 

celluloid

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Argyle does look a lot of fun. What about Wonka?

If I nab Regal Unlimited for wife and I before this weekend to have for the next three months. I probably will. If I do that I will try and see Napoleon and other lesser choices too of course with the benefit. My kids have no interest in Wonka, and mine is not strong as it is a bit too Legacy green screen looking for me.

Seeing Godzilla Minus One again with it first though before it leaves theaters will be my first order of business with Regal Unlimited.
 
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Phroobar

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If I nab Regal Unlimited for wife and I before this weekend to have for the next three months. I probably will. If I do that I will try and see Napoleon and other lesser choices too of course with the benefit. My kids have no interest in Wonka, and mine is not strong as it is a bit too Legacy green screen looking for me.

Seeing Godzilla Minus One again with it first though before it leaves theaters will be my first order of business with Regal Unlimited.
You'll enjoy Godzilla. It was really good.
 

celluloid

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Theater attendance continues to be subsidized by chains like AMC and Regal via subscription services.

Ok. So are home viewing services including free and low cost trials and more ad space for reduced subscription. It is irrelevant to the fact. Theater attendance is on the rise and number of film releases are on the rise again too(without knowing what delays the writer's strike has caused)
 
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TalkingHead

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Ok. So are home viewing services including free and low cost trials and more ad space for reduced subscription. It is irrelevant to the fact. Theater attendance is on the rise and number of film releases are on the rise again too(without knowing what delays the writer's strike has caused)
It’s not irrelevant if the business model is unsustainable.

Closing locations, diminished exhibition quality. Number of releases is buoyed with slidshod things that previously would’ve been direct to video or cable premieres. Now chains play this stuff because more content’s good for the subscription model.
 

celluloid

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It’s not irrelevant if the business model is unsustainable.

Closing locations, diminished exhibition quality. Number of releases is buoyed with slidshod things that previously would’ve been direct to video or cable premieres. Now chains play this stuff because more content’s good for the subscription model.
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It would not be offered if they did not want people participating in it.

(your concept could literally be said about Streaming Service's struggle in the marketplace too. Cancelling shows, reducing season size. Reaching for deep nostlagia, adding more ads)


Plenty of people also still spend per movie in the theaters.

I don't know what you are talking about more content? There are more releases than 2020, 2021 and 2022 but not yet back to 2019. We are still short dozens of movies.

2024 and beyond is planned to have more releases than 2023.


If 2023 had less money and people coming in than 2021 or 2022, or stayed stagnant, you may have a case. It has only grown.
More people are going to theaters than 2020, 2021 and 2022. Things are getting better, making more money than those other years. Not less.

Up Millions in attendance and over a billion up this year in revenue. No sign of anything but growing so far.
 
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TalkingHead

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It would not be offered if they did not want people participating in
Yes, these companies are being generous by offering these plans. The plans exist to encourage consistent moviegoing, which in 2023 also includes hot food and alcohol sales.

Theatrical’s numbers are inflated. Movies only occasionally hit zeitgeist status. That’s bad for business.
 

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