You are right, all of the special effects in their films aren't bad. The problem in my opinion, is the stuff that's bad, is REALLY bad. Just about every major film, and D+ show, has a few scenes that you just say, what the.... was that? And when you see these budget numbers it has to make you wonder how it happens.
This would be a great meme if individuals at airports announced their departures.^ this is usually used for when people “make a dramatic exit” from a forum or thread, but works equally well for dramatically announcing “I’ve put you on ignore.”
We know the VFX was rushed in some of these films, like Quantumania. The rush jobs put pressure on the VFX Teams and that caused them to push the budgets for the VFX to try to finish. Its a domino effect, if they would have a solid script that didn't require reshoots, that causes VFX to be rushed, then the budgets would be more in-line with a lower budget movie.
It was really a rhetorical question. At this point we know what causes the bad effects. It's just a wonder that the powers that be, watch these things and say. Yea, seems good enough to me! Let's put it out there! It's just a strange situation. They're willing to spend 250mil plus on a film, but then are ok with sending out clearly unfinished/rushed effects.
They may not have had a choice. As I understand it, some of the movies had the VFX Teams still working on them up until the release date. You can't push the release date at that point.
I think they always have a choice. It's a conscious effort on the executives part. It's the arrogance of the company. They know before the ticket presales start, where they're at, yet still push forward. They have a schedule to keep, quality be damned. And I just find that strange when throwing that kind of money at a film. That's why I say they had a choice. They chose to over burden the effects teams with the unrealistic release schedules.
Speaking of the MCU specifically, I think its worked for them in the past and it hasn't recently. And by all accounts they know its not working and are making adjustments.
Yes it's accepted. The difference is in something like the original antman, there were some fake looking effects. But the movie was a thousand times better than antman 3. People are much more willing to forgive questionable effects when they are invested in the story and characters. When you see something like Modok in antman 3. And how amateur the design and cgi was and couple hat with the mediocre story. Yea, it can take you right out of the film.
I would say you're off on this. Domino's isn't the blockbuster tent pole of pizzas. It's a $5.99 pizza that you get when you don't have a better option and need something quick. This isn't made for dvd or Disney channel content people are complaining about. These are 250mil plus high profile projects. I'm personally not going into the latest marvel, or star wars and expecting wizards of Waverly place effects.
Might have something to do with this?:
I’m wondering if improved analytics and consumer behavior insights are leading them to be more targeted in their advertising?
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I know this has been brought up before, but I do wonder whether Disney+ hasn’t played a role in disincentivising families with children from going to the cinema to see releases that they know they’ll be able to stream for “free” in a few months’ time. Either way, I agree things are playing out very badly for Disney at the moment.Saturday update:
Estimate is now $32m-$33m for the 5-day, and looks like it may end up with less than Napoleon. Shocking.‘Songbirds & Snakes’ Reigns Supreme Over Thanksgiving Stretch With $42M 5-day; ‘Napoleon’ Steps On Disney’s ‘Wish’ With $32M+ — Box Office
Box Office: 'Wish' Eyes $40M-$45M 5-day, 'Napoleon' $28M-$32M Over Thanksgiving
Perhaps. But Napoleon is an Apple TV production, which means it’ll be free on that soon, and it’s going to make more than Wish with a smaller potential audience pool.
I think it’s definitely a factor, along with people having massive TVs in their homes now, shorter attention spans, more content available than ever, some social issues, probably some lingering covid issues, some story issues… death by a thousand cuts.
A couple of thoughts:
My entire family loves Disney movies but not a single one of us will see them in theaters for the reasons mentioned above. Theaters are inconvenient, expensive and audience behavior leaves a lot to be desired.
Your family isn’t alone, this is how more and more people are consuming entertainment content. This is why Disney has gone all in–literally risking everything–on streaming.
It’ll take some time but they’ll figure it out. It’s the new reality.
We should have this discussion when Disney puts out a critically acclaimed movie with lackluster box office performance.
