Dinosaur has seen better days

[J4546]

I agree. But he made Avatarland belond in Animal Kingdom.

It doesn't need to be. Just like dinosaurs do not need a continent.

I would argue that it does. It does a good job taking the place of what should have been Beastly Kingdom, with fictional creatures and plant-life. Fictional fantasy/alien-like creatures are a part of the animal kingdom as well. Avatarland takes on a whole other step in going to another PLANET that houses its OWN wildlife. It is actually kind of genius... Especially on the topic of showing people how nature will always exist past mankind's destruction/creations...

That is because, again, Joe Rhode actually made Avatarland work.

If Rhode didn't exist for Avatarland, it would definitely just be another galaxy's edge or cars land, that is for sure.

"If Rhode didn't exist for Avatarland, it would definitely just be another galaxy's edge or cars land, that is for sure".... What is wrong with Cars Land? I think its fantastic. And GE is getting much better with dropping the timeline, adding bounty hunting mini games, etc... but really i just think Cars Land is a homerun for immersive one off lands

 

[James Alucobond]

"If Rhode didn't exist for Avatarland, it would definitely just be another galaxy's edge or cars land, that is for sure".... What is wrong with Cars Land? I think its fantastic. And GE is getting much better with dropping the timeline, adding bounty hunting mini games, etc... but really i just think Cars Land is a homerun for immersive one off lands

I think the point is that another land of that sort wouldn't be a good fit for Animal Kingdom, not that they're inherently bad.

 

[J4546]

I think the point is that another land of that sort wouldn't be a good fit for Animal Kingdom, not that they're inherently bad.

I get ya but I think Cars Land fits well with the California theming and Disney was already planning an car culture based land before Cars the movie existed because thats just how big the car scene is in Cali. Then Cars came along, it was a hit and Disney rethemed it to Cars the movie based land and it worked out quite well imo.

Galaxies edge not fitting DL I can understand

 

[iMax]

Back on Dinosaur, I rode it yesterday and I noticed the following not working properly:

•Laser Effect after 1st "Toaster Oven"
•Styrachosaurus
•Alioramus moving but only at half height
•1st Carno Eyes Closes
•2nd Carno not lunging
•3rd Carno

HOWEVER, in the several years I've riden Dinosaur, yesterday was the first time I've seen the final lunging Carno working in motion.

Has the ride ever taken a major refurb in the past decade?

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Back on Dinosaur, I rode it yesterday and I noticed the following not working properly:

•Laser Effect after 1st "Toaster Oven"
•Styrachosaurus
•Alioramus moving but only at half height
•1st Carno Eyes Closes
•2nd Carno not lunging
•3rd Carno

HOWEVER, in the several years I've riden Dinosaur, yesterday was the first time I've seen the final lunging Carno working in motion.

Has the ride ever taken a major refurb in the past decade?

Added Compsognathus animations on a screen back in about 2016 I believe, along with restoring the laser grid on Iguanodon. And that was when someone else said they shut off the 3rd Carnotaurus' mouth movements. But since then, I don't think so, and they actually made the ride worse by shutting down part of the climactic animatronic.

 

[WondersOfLife]

I get ya but I think Cars Land fits well with the California theming and Disney was already planning an car culture based land before Cars the movie existed because thats just how big the car scene is in Cali. Then Cars came along, it was a hit and Disney rethemed it to Cars the movie based land and it worked out quite well imo.

Galaxies edge not fitting DL I can understand

You’re missing the point.

On a side note... I totally believe that Arizona is the perfect setting for California Adventure.

On a side side note, cars land is fine for what it is. But that wasn’t the point.


.....on a triple side note, Radiator Springs sounds better than Cars Land... much like Andy’s Backyard sounds better than Toy Story Land. I’m glad they at least beefed up Avatar by calling it “Pandora - The World of Avatar.”

At least “dinoland” fits its cheesy name ;-)

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Has the ride ever taken a major refurb in the past decade?

The last major refurb was done in July to Nov of 2016...This is what it looked like on the day it reopened..

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Added Compsognathus animations on a screen back in about 2016 I believe, along with restoring the laser grid on Iguanodon. And that was when someone else said they shut off the 3rd Carnotaurus' mouth movements. But since then, I don't think so, and they actually made the ride worse by shutting down part of the climactic animatronic.

2 other items I would like to see them work out...

• A projection of a Pterodactyl swooping down removing the static one
• I'd rather see a Pepper's ghost effect on Aladar once we "Lazer" net him when we pass by so he dissappears and gets into the back of the vehicle making the vehicle lean back due to his weight..Seems like a weird moment he is still there after "capturing him" and nothing happens..

 

[Disney Analyst]

What a horrid mess. Disney used to have a standard to shut down a ride if specific effects or scenes went down… that broken scene should be one of those… what a disaster.

 

[VicariousCorpse]

I think they have pretty much abandoned the ride at wild arctic in favor of just using that space as a permanent howl o scream attraction.

It closed with the park for covid. It isn't coming back.

And that was when someone else said they shut off the 3rd Carnotaurus' mouth movements.

His mouth has always moved.

 

[marni1971]

Added Compsognathus animations on a screen back in about 2016 I believe, along with restoring the laser grid on Iguanodon.

Hate to be pedantic, but it’s just a slide projection. Not a laser.

 

[Movielover]

Seems like a weird moment he is still there after "capturing him" and nothing happens..

He's still there after the lazer tags him because he does not travel in time until we do. Once our time rover engages the time vortex is when he gets pulled through. It has nothing to do with him being physically on the rover.

 

[peter11435]

I believe you got my point.

Except Avatar actually does fit the park in both theme and setting. And the source material didn’t need to be twisted to make that happen.

 

[WorldExplorer]

They had to trot Rhode out to Validate the area. When else have they ever had to have an Imagineer tell the public, "despite you saying it does not belong, it belongs." Didn't have to do that with new fantasy land or galaxys edge. Didn't have to do that with Cars Land.

Well, I don't know about specifically having an Imagineer come out and explain it, but don't forget the convoluted gymnastics act they're trying to pull off to pretend Guardians belongs in Epcot.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

He's still there after the lazer tags him because he does not travel in time until we do. Once our time rover engages the time vortex is when he gets pulled through. It has nothing to do with him being physically on the rover.

If they ever do a thorough rethink of this attraction a la Test Track 2.0, I really think they need to ditch that storyline about capturing an iguanodon and bringing it back. However they make it fit, capturing a dinosaur and transporting it back seems an awkward way of trying to make a dinosaur attraction fit the technology and ride vehicle they developed for Indy. It just feels a bit strange to send people on an expedition in a jeep to capture a dinosaur, regardless of what they set up in terms of lasers, etc. For me, the forced storyline is one of the reasons this attraction never quite lived up to its potential.

They'd be better off just flipping the script on Jurassic Park and making this a new technology developed to send people back to the time of the dinosaurs. Perhaps even put in an eccentric billionaire Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos-type doing this as his own vanity project as that would fit with the rampant commercialism of Dinoland USA more than the Dino Institute and could also set up the unnecessary risks of sending you right to the point before the asteroid struck.

 

[Movielover]

If they ever do a thorough rethink of this attraction a la Test Track 2.0, I really think they need to ditch that storyline about capturing an iguanodon and bringing it back. However they make it fit, capturing a dinosaur and transporting it back seems an awkward way of trying to make a dinosaur attraction fit the technology and ride vehicle they developed for Indy. It just feels a bit strange to send people on an expedition in a jeep to capture a dinosaur, regardless of what they set up in terms of lasers, etc. For me, the forced storyline is one of the reasons this attraction never quite lived up to its potential.

They'd be better off just flipping the script on Jurassic Park and making this a new technology developed to send people back to the time of the dinosaurs. Perhaps even put in an eccentric billionaire Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos-type doing this as his own vanity project as that would fit with the rampant commercialism of Dinoland USA more than the Dino Institute and could also set up the unnecessary risks of sending you right to the point before the asteroid struck.

The current storyline is much better than a rich person sending you back right at the point of extinction "just for the lols" IMO

 

[WorldExplorer]

If they ever do a thorough rethink of this attraction a la Test Track 2.0, I really think they need to ditch that storyline about capturing an iguanodon and bringing it back. However they make it fit, capturing a dinosaur and transporting it back seems an awkward way of trying to make a dinosaur attraction fit the technology and ride vehicle they developed for Indy. It just feels a bit strange to send people on an expedition in a jeep to capture a dinosaur, regardless of what they set up in terms of lasers, etc. For me, the forced storyline is one of the reasons this attraction never quite lived up to its potential.

They'd be better off just flipping the script on Jurassic Park and making this a new technology developed to send people back to the time of the dinosaurs. Perhaps even put in an eccentric billionaire Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos-type doing this as his own vanity project as that would fit with the rampant commercialism of Dinoland USA more than the Dino Institute and could also set up the unnecessary risks of sending you right to the point before the asteroid struck.

But it IS technology made to just send people in time to see some dinosaurs. Going back to get a dinosaur is specifically Seeker screwing with what's normally a peaceful tour.

Parts are definitely convoluted (e.g. why Seeker had to tag an igaunadon at the worst possible moment), but I think the rescue a dinosaur part helps give a sense of a goal to move towards and a reason to force the vehicle to move faster (and maybe not make the best decisions along the way), like going into the pterodactyl nest).

Edit: It also does bother me that the time rovers don't look even remotely like something that would protect you in dinosaur times. Even during peaceful tours they have to run into some dangerous creatures.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

The current storyline is much better than a rich person sending you back right at the point of extinction "just for the lols" IMO

Well, with the missing ending that Aladar escaped the Institute and was in Discovery River would have been nice to have kept if it was more visible to guests as your entering Dinoland...


But sadly that One has not seen better days....

 

[Sir_Cliff]

The current storyline is much better than a rich person sending you back right at the point of extinction "just for the lols" IMO

That wasn't what I was suggesting. More that this was a new technology for prehistoric safaris as a tourism experience and the stakes came from them sending you too close to the meteor striking for whatever reason.

But it IS technology made to just send people in time to see some dinosaurs. Going back to get a dinosaur is specifically Seeker screwing with what's normally a peaceful tour.

Parts are definitely convoluted (e.g. why Seeker had to tag an igaunadon at the worst possible moment), but I think the rescue a dinosaur part helps give a sense of a goal to move towards and a reason to force the vehicle to move faster (and maybe not make the best decisions along the way), like going into the pterodactyl nest).

That is a good point! I just think they need to find another way to add stakes than this whole thing with the iguanodon which, to me, is also an example of over-thinking back story. All they need is for this to be a tourism outfit along the lines of Space-X and have the person sending you back wink and say he'll make it more exciting but not to worry. Then you can just enjoy the dinosaurs, meteors, whatever narration they have about getting you out just in time. The whole thing about the iguanodon adds a layer of "so we're supposed to be doing what now?" to the experience for me.

Anyway, I guess this is getting a little too much into armchair Imagineering!

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

But it IS technology made to just send people in time to see some dinosaurs. Going back to get a dinosaur is specifically Seeker screwing with what's normally a peaceful tour.

Parts are definitely convoluted (e.g. why Seeker had to tag an igaunadon at the worst possible moment), but I think the rescue a dinosaur part helps give a sense of a goal to move towards and a reason to force the vehicle to move faster (and maybe not make the best decisions along the way), like going into the pterodactyl nest).

My guess (And this is where the tie in of the film is) When we first see Adult Aladar in the film is the exact moment the meteor strikes the earth....I'm just glad they didn't add those monkey's in the film...