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[GoofGoof]

Question - how is exclusivity determined, or, who establishes ride exclusivity for a particular park?

Both Hong Kong and Paris have partners who own a portion of the park. I assume they want exclusivity so that the ride is unique to their park for a period of time. I don't think there would be an exclusivity clause for a ride cloned between DLR and WDW since they are both wholly owned.

 

[flyerjab]

Both Hong Kong and Paris have partners who own a portion of the park. I assume they want exclusivity so that the ride is unique to their park for a period of time. I don't think there would be an exclusivity clause for a ride cloned between DLR and WDW since they are both wholly owned.

I guess that the reason I posed that question was in response to TWDC company ultimately becoming the majority owner of DLP. If that happened, couldn't they alter the deal?

 

[GoofGoof]

I guess that the reason I posed that question was in response to TWDC company ultimately becoming the majority owner of DLP. If that happened, couldn't they alter the deal?

Good question. I would assume they could at that point.

 

[Nubs70]

I want a trippy Alice in Wonderland/Pink Floyd fusion dark ride.

 

[Mike S]

I want a trippy Alice in Wonderland/Pink Floyd fusion dark ride.

So strange and awesome at the same time.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I actually don't want the Ratatouille ride myself, it's kind of a letdown as far as i'm concerned. Mystic Manor and Tokyo's Pooh are IMO far better examples of trackless dark rides. Rat relies far too heavily on screens for my tastes. I know i've said this many times, but I value a healthy dose of animatronics in my Disney rides (one of the reasons i dislike TSMM, though far from the only one in its case).

Really? So JL overruled Iger huh? Because that is the logic you seem to be using. Iger wants to cut but can be overruled by Lasseter?

Ohhhhkayyy.

Yes he did, and yes that is the logic (facts actually). Lasseter is a very powerful figure in the company, and it has been stated by more than one insider on these forums that he used political leverage to threaten the executives into building Cars Land properly when they wanted to mutilate its budget. Lee or Martin can probably elaborate more on this (may have been one of them that said this originally), but i'd imagine he has a lot of dirt on certain people in the company to be capable of the power he displayed on the Cars Land project. Had Lasseter been hands off on the project and let Iger and the other bean counters have their own way, DCA would probably have been stuck with something more akin to the quality seen of Cars Quatre Roues Rallye at Walt Disney Studios Park Paris. And likely still in the same dire state of poor attendance it was in prior to its renovation.

New Fantasyland again is another perfect example of what happens when bean counters like Iger and TDO get their dirty hands on a project to slash the living hell out of it without a powerful creative head to firmly put their foot down and tell them "NO". You end up with a disappointing mess that feels thoroughly half assed. One hopes that James Cameron is fulfilling that role in regards to Avatar, it remains to be seen about the DHS overhaul though.

 

[SilentWindODoom]

Ooooooooh. I completely misunderstood what you meant. Yes I do think Frozen could possibly get a home in DHS in show form. Just a matter of time really.

Aww... I hope they add Frozen to the other theater and leave Beauty and the Beast alone. It's my mom's favorite thing to do in the World, and I absolutely love it too, the film being one of our favorites.

Clonning Cars land or (worse) half of Cars Land is really boring in my opinion. Wouldn't you rather have an exclusive land that is done the same quality or maybe a Monsters Inc. Coaster + the Ratatouille ride from Paris instead?

If people want to see the Cars rides they can fly down to Disneyland. I want fresh reasons to travel to Walt Disney World.

I don't know about you, but I don't know how many people can make the time or money to travel cross-country to see it. For half the country, WDW is their Disney, and while it may not be "original", that doesn't make it any less quality. For all those that may never make it to Anaheim, it's nice to be able to enjoy it, especially as a part of the Studios where one can also see GMR, RNRC, and ST the same day with the same non-park-hopper ticket.

Yes. Ratatouille has a 5 year Worldwide exclusive to Paris, just like Mystic Manor has a 5 year exclusive to Hong Kong. I thought Monsters Inc Scream Coaster was a D-ticket.

I want fresh ideas, firsts for DHS - not things brought from the other parks because they are proven successes.

I think at this point, just adding a bunch to the park is better than its current state. As long as the numbers are brought up, not every addition needs to be new.

 

[El Grupo]

I'm really on the bandwagon of bringing Monstropolis to DHS (or DHA?). Two or three attractions including the Laugh Floor coming over from Magic Kingdom would work very nicely.

Plus they could actually add something futuristic at Tomorrowland in its stead. A Wall-E attraction? Anything else?

A bit off topic, but has there been any rumblings about the potential impact of the upcoming Tomorrowland movie (2015 release) on that area of the Magic Kingdom?

May be to soon. However, based on some of the production photos and considering that part of the movie is shot at the Carousel of Progress, it appears that it could potentially result in an attraction or two (or, in my dreams, a makeover for that section of the park).

 

[BrerJon]

A bit off topic, but has there been any rumblings about the potential impact of the upcoming Tomorrowland movie (2015 release) on that area of the Magic Kingdom?

May be to soon. However, based on some of the production photos and considering that part of the movie is shot at the Carousel of Progress, it appears that it could potentially result in an attraction or two (or, in my dreams, a makeover for that section of the park).

I heard a rumour that the reason Disneyland delayed announcing Star Wars land was because if the Tomorrowland movie is a hit, they're going to bulldoze Toontown, but if the movie is a flop, the force may be with Tomorrowland in the park instead.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Has there been any rumors regarding the Animation Academy area? My wife and kids love drawing the characters. I hadn't heard how that area is going to "fit in" with this redo.

None that I've heard.

Should be safe.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Maybe not overruled but Lasseter might have thrown political influence around. The politics that can go on between executives in a large company can get quite interesting.

Disney is all about politics.

Backstabbing, nepotism and ruthlessness. It's horrible.

 

[Cesar R M]

5 years? So that means they could start building these at WDW now and they wouldn't violate the exclusivity!

I always wondered..
Can universal extend their Marvel contract further in the future?
Or they are pretty much screwed and will have to remove all their Marvel stuff once the contract ends?

 

[Cesar R M]

I want a trippy Alice in Wonderland/Pink Floyd fusion dark ride.

You mean like burton's alice ?

 

[Mike S]

I always wondered..
Can universal extend their Marvel contract further in the future?
Or they are pretty much screwed and will have to remove all their Marvel stuff once the contract ends?

The contract doesn't end.

 

[BrerJon]

I always wondered..
Can universal extend their Marvel contract further in the future?
Or they are pretty much screwed and will have to remove all their Marvel stuff once the contract ends?

I'm pretty sure Universal's contract doesn't have an end date, but they can stop it at any time they choose.

Marvel, however, can only pull the plug if Universal break the terms of the agreement.

 

[Cesar R M]

The contract doesn't end.

I'm pretty sure Universal's contract doesn't have an end date, but they can stop it at any time they choose.

Marvel, however, can only pull the plug if Universal break the terms of the agreement.

gotcha! thanks for the clarification.


what about the exclusivity?
it also forever for Universal (Marvel)?

 

[BrerJon]

gotcha! thanks for the clarification.
what about the exclusivity?
it also forever for Universal (Marvel)?

Universal have exclusive rights to use the main Marvel characters in theme parks within a certain radius (1000 miles? Something like that). Nobody else can make Marvel attractions.

Disneyland, Dubai, Hong Kong... they're all fine, Universal has no rights. But in Florida, the only way Universal ditch Marvel is if they decide to build something better on that island instead.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Universal have exclusive rights to use the main Marvel characters in theme parks within a certain radius (1000 miles? Something like that). Nobody else can make Marvel attractions.

Disneyland, Dubai, Hong Kong... they're all fine, Universal has no rights. But in Florida, the only way Universal ditch Marvel is if they decide to build something better on that island instead.

Oh darnit, don't start this argument again .....

 

[SirLink]

Question - how is exclusivity determined, or, who establishes ride exclusivity for a particular park?

Hong Kong government insisted on ride(s) being exclusive in order I believe to preserve some uniqueness to the park over its Soon© to be opened mainland cousin.

EuroDisney SCA I'm not sure if they insisted because of the cost of the design and they were the only resort who were willing to pay it. Again I'm not sure on the reasons ... just know that they have it for 5 years WW first.

Lets say by next year TWDC own 51% of the shares of EuroDisney SCA ... the ride still won't be moving as not only do they need a good exclusive to get people through the turnstile, but also they won't get out of the contract deal that already exists.

 

[Next Big Thing]

Yes. Ratatouille has a 5 year Worldwide exclusive to Paris, just like Mystic Manor has a 5 year exclusive to Hong Kong. I thought Monsters Inc Scream Coaster was a D-ticket.

I want fresh ideas, firsts for DHS - not things brought from the other parks because they are proven successes.

But with that 5 year exclusivity... does that mean they can't start construction for 5 years or the ride can't OPEN for 5 years? Because if it's only it cn't open, they could easily do construction on a Ratatouille ride and aim to be open once the contract allows for it.