DHS Permits

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Original Poster
Any chance you could continue your map making skills to show where lines may lead if they went along the strip of land south of CBR towards Pop/art?

This drawing already shows it pretty clearly. The dotted line from the building follows that strip of land and would end up in the parking lot in Pop Century. Continuing the line would take you through the lake.

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Sachilles

Member
A gondola could go over water, but what if you had to do an emergency evacuation?
Boats.
Lift evacs, require 2 people per car with ski lifts, one in a pinch. A rescue rope is thrown or shot over the haulrope(cable the lift chair sits on). Rescue rope has a harness and is shimmied down to the chair in need of help. It has a little bench that someone sits in. Rescuer then belays the rescue bench down. It's fairly easy, and can be done from a small boat if needed. Most ski resort works get trained on this type of thing, and it takes about 2 hours to get trained up. The biggest issue is outdoor exposure at ski resort. In FL, the timeline wouldn't be as tight as a cold weather area. They are usually electric, with a diesel backup motor. While breakdowns can happen, it's rare that a ski lift type of transportation would be down long enough to need evacuation. Likely the backup motor would be used.
 

uncle jimmy

Premium Member
In the CB expansion thread, I believe @marni1971 mentioned something about them looking into a connector from CBR to Epcot and it not being a walkway or a waterway... @danlb_2000 on the permit, does it have a date for completion... Oh and have there been any patents for a gondola type system from disney? Thinking about it too, didn't the parking lots just get new people moving trains?
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
Boats.
Lift evacs, require 2 people per car with ski lifts, one in a pinch. A rescue rope is thrown or shot over the haulrope(cable the lift chair sits on). Rescue rope has a harness and is shimmied down to the chair in need of help. It has a little bench that someone sits in. Rescuer then belays the rescue bench down. It's fairly easy, and can be done from a small boat if needed. Most ski resort works get trained on this type of thing, and it takes about 2 hours to get trained up. The biggest issue is outdoor exposure at ski resort. In FL, the timeline wouldn't be as tight as a cold weather area. They are usually electric, with a diesel backup motor. While breakdowns can happen, it's rare that a ski lift type of transportation would be down long enough to need evacuation. Likely the backup motor would be used.
It would still make sense to avoid going over water if possible to make evacuation and maintenance easier.
 
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danlb_2000

Premium Member
Original Poster
In the CB expansion thread, I believe @marni1971 mentioned something about them looking into a connector from CBR to Epcot and it not being a walkway or a waterway... @danlb_2000 on the permit, does it have a date for completion... Oh and have there been any patents for a gondola type system from disney? Thinking about it too, didn't the parking lots just get new people moving trains?

The DHS permit has a completion date of 2019, but that is for completion of what is shown in the permit, they could be additional things that we have not seen yet. I wouldn't necessarily expect to see a patent for something transportation related, plenty of off the shelf systems they could use.
 

pvtim

Active Member
If this was a monorail/gondola other secondary transport option, why would they include it in POP/AOA? The Deluxe and even moderates are separated from the value resorts primarily by the inclusion of alternate transportation and or proximity.

If you add this to the value resorts, does this lead to price increase or reclassification of those resorts to moderate and development of a new value class per Iger's statements at increasing rooms/capacity?
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
If this was a monorail/gondola other secondary transport option, why would they include it in POP/AOA? The Deluxe and even moderates are separated from the value resorts primarily by the inclusion of alternate transportation and or proximity.

If you add this to the value resorts, does this lead to price increase or reclassification of those resorts to moderate and development of a new value class per Iger's statements at increasing rooms/capacity?
I don't think transportation options are really what determines value vs deluxe. You already have moderates with boat transportation and deluxe resorts with nothing but buses.
 

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