DHS Makeover - What we know so far.....

[SirLink]

Photo Dave according to screamscape DHS is only going to add 2 Star Wars attractions so the hope for a Star Wars land is not very likely. Lance Hart knows his stuff.

He doesn't ...

 

[Smiddimizer]

How better to bring our classics to other cultures?

Clone it? I get that Disney is already Americana to a fault, but it seems paradoxical to me having the superior tribute to classic American cinema in China or France, especially when they have culturally distinctive and successful film industries of their own.

I'm not sure how "dark rides" is even defined these days. We're not talking "Mr Toad's Wild Ride" any longer. Spiderman at Universal and Toy Story Mania are two of the world's most popular attractions and they are both fun-house type rides. So while I agree that passive rides like "World of Motion" are probably a thing of the past (and sadly, probably Spaceship Earth too - I don't think the interactive screens help enough), the future is bright for engaging, entertaining "dark rides". They are great for immersing you in another world, so I hope we see them in both Pandora and Star Wars Land.

SSE is still hella popular, and not just because it's in a floating golf ball at the front of the park. Wait times aren't the best indicator of popularity, especially when you're discussing one of the most high capacity rides on property.

 

[marni1971]

Tell it to Glendale. And those of us bombarded by overbearing sound tracks and never ending quick edits.

Don't need to.

Dark rides are back in fashion at 1401. Ever since Seas with Nemo opened.

 

[marni1971]

Maybe they need two versions. Put the classic movie version in Paris or Shanghai.

Maybe they don't.

 

[ProjectXBlog]

GMR needs to go too but they signed with Turner. At least, it should be a ride with all Disney movies.

someone correct me if i'm wrong but i thought that having tom step in as a sponsor meant nothing for the future of the ride? like disney can still do whatever they want with the building, turner just paid for the current plussing

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

IMO Epcot is the next wdw park after Disney Hollywood studios changed are finished to have the next major overhaul. Epcot should focus more on making heavy changes in future world that's more on the thrill side.....that's what Epcot has always lacked. Educational park has always been epcots MO i understand that.

The issue there is that thrill rides tend to be pretty short, as far as ride time goes. Future World has already had two major, looong dark rides replaced with hard and fast thrills. It makes it hard to a guest to fill a day in a park if too many attractions are over relatively quickly.

It used to be that you could spend at least a solid half hour in each Future World Pavilion, not including wait times, and be entertained the whole time. Now, with Wonders of Life gone, Imagination cut short, Innoventions' minimal engagement, Test Track's short ride time, and Mission Space's divisive intensity, guests breeze through Future World (unless they're stuck in stand-by at Soarin') and then wonder where all the rides are at the back half of the park.

All this is to say, some thrills could be nice, but they'd have to be in addition to what's already there rather than at the expense of, and the park would need some slower things to absorb people as well.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Dark rides are back in fashion at 1401.

This may be the most beautiful sentence I've read all day.

In what way was Nemo the catalyst? I never got the impression it struck as a huge hit with the guests. That said, I definitely prefer more dark rides to less.

 

[Captain Neo]

Demolition costs peanuts. Don't spread nonsense.

I'll quote myself:



You could probably demo Lights, Motors, Action, Indy, and Catastrophe Canyon for $10M combined. Probably less.

Your talking about stages and arenas. It's much more expensive to bulldoze/rework large buildings and sound stages. Especially with the park open to guests while this is going on.

 

[Brer Panther]

I'm not sure how "dark rides" is even defined these days. We're not talking "Mr Toad's Wild Ride" any longer. Spiderman at Universal and Toy Story Mania are two of the world's most popular attractions and they are both fun-house type rides. So while I agree that passive rides like "World of Motion" are probably a thing of the past (and sadly, probably Spaceship Earth too - I don't think the interactive screens help enough), the future is bright for engaging, entertaining "dark rides". They are great for immersing you in another world, so I hope we see them in both Pandora and Star Wars Land.

I think what they mean is dark rides where characters are represented more by animatronics than screens. I don't even know what the point of making Ratatouille a trackless ride was: you're stuck in front of a screen the whole time, they could've saved money by making it a simulator.

 

[marni1971]

Your talking about stages and arenas. It's much more expensive to bulldoze/rework large buildings and sound stages. Especially with the park open to guests while this is going on.

Nothing substantially large will be "bulldozed"

On the contrary, sound stages are very easy to rework.

 

[marni1971]

This may be the most beautiful sentence I've read all day.

In what way was Nemo the catalyst?

Guest satisfaction. Followed by Gran Fiesta. Was a pleasant surprise apparently.

Aerials Undersea could have been far less lavish on paper.

 

[SirLink]

Nothing substantially large will be "bulldozed"

On the contrary, sound stages are very easy to rework.

No..... that means catastrophe canyon is sticking around, that seems to apply that IJESS is sticking around to after this ... God damn it

 

[pax_65]

I think what they mean is dark rides where characters are represented more by animatronics than screens. I don't even know what the point of making Ratatouille a trackless ride was: you're stuck in front of a screen the whole time, they could've saved money by making it a simulator.

I feel the same way with the end of Spaceship Earth. The entire sequence with the screens could be at a computer station post-ride. What difference does it make that you're still moving backwards in darkness? It literally adds nothing.

I like dark rides and animatronics, but I also enjoy thrills. I love the combination together, where real animatronics and virtual reality are used to create experiences that are superior to either one separately - and you're not even sure at first what's real and what's on a screen. Spiderman is a great example, and that's over 15 years old. WWOHP takes it a bit further (although maybe not as effectively).

Disney is the undisputed king of animatronics. I'd like to see them really push the envelope and basically reinvent dark rides for a new generation.

 

[Mike S]

Guest satisfaction. Followed by Gran Fiesta. Was a pleasant surprise apparently.

Aerials Undersea could have been far less lavish on paper.

Less than it already is?

 

[danlb_2000]

Photo Dave according to screamscape DHS is only going to add 2 Star Wars attractions so the hope for a Star Wars land is not very likely. Lance Hart knows his stuff.

Not from what I have seen.

 

[marni1971]

No..... that means catastrophe canyon is sticking around, that seems to apply that IJESS is sticking around to after this ... God damn it

Canyon can easily come down.

Not to mention it's nowhere near onstage guest areas.

 

[marni1971]

Less than it already is?

Oh absolutely.

 

[SirLink]

Canyon can easily come down.

Not to mention it's nowhere near onstage guest areas.

So is there anything in DHS which would be hard to tear down?

 

[Crazydisneyfanluke]

So is there anything in DHS which would be hard to tear down?

The ticket booths.

 

[marni1971]

So is there anything in DHS which would be hard to tear down?

I'm no expert but I dare say the Hollywood Tower would not be easy. LMA could be a pig with all the reinforced concrete. Aside from that the park for the main seems to be built traditionally. Albeit hurricane proof.