DHS Aerial View

[Slowjack]

I'm surprised they didn't mildly repurpose ST to act as a Hogwart's Express-esque transport to whatever Outer Rim planet is being represented by SWL.

It seems that it would have at least been possible to sort of back-alley an exit path into SWL behind Muppets 3D. Heck, they could have made the whole schtick that you are stowing away through a gleaming spaceport on one end and exiting in a seedy back alley on the other (and vice versa).

This has been gone over before--it seems like such an obvious idea, and certainly Star Tours and the SWL seem very close, so why not? But there's no real way to do this. The two areas aren't as close as they appear; a corridor from the end of Star Tours to SWL would, depending on the route, be well over 100 meters. Presumably, for this idea to be worth doing, that would all have to be themed, and let's face it, this is the same Disney that can't be bothered to pretty up the exit hallway in Mission Space. And then there's the question of how to route it without removing backstage access to everything that needs it over there (restaurants and bathrooms). Really, I think this idea would only work if they had removed Muppets and everything east of it and started SWL there (or, alternatively, gone the other proposed direction and built SWL north of Star Tours).

 

[danlb_2000]

This has been gone over before--it seems like such an obvious idea, and certainly Star Tours and the SWL seem very close, so why not? But there's no real way to do this. The two areas aren't as close as they appear; a corridor from the end of Star Tours to SWL would, depending on the route, be well over 100 meters. Presumably, for this idea to be worth doing, that would all have to be themed, and let's face it, this is the same Disney that can't be bothered to pretty up the exit hallway in Mission Space. And then there's the question of how to route it without removing backstage access to everything that needs it over there (restaurants and bathrooms). Really, I think this idea would only work if they had removed Muppets and everything east of it and started SWL there (or, alternatively, gone the other proposed direction and built SWL north of Star Tours).

Yeah, I think if Disney had really wanted to link Star Tours and SWL then they would have sacrificed Muppets and put the land right next to Star Tours.

 

[Kamikaze]

But there's no real way to do this. The two areas aren't as close as they appear; a corridor from the end of Star Tours to SWL would, depending on the route, be well over 100 meters. Presumably, for this idea to be worth doing, that would all have to be themed, and let's face it, this is the same Disney that can't be bothered to pretty up the exit hallway in Mission Space.

Someone's never gone through the IJA queue.
We can say all we want that they don't want to spend money - but they certainly are doing so for SWL.

 

[Slowjack]

Someone's never gone through the IJA queue.
We can say all we want that they don't want to spend money - but they certainly are doing so for SWL.

True enough about Indiana Jones. I didn't mean to suggest that this was evidence of Disney not wanting to spend money. But rather that this is a case where a lot of money would have to be spent in relation to the payoff, like the Mission: Space hallway, and for that reason I understand why they wouldn't have considered it with SWL situated as it is.

 

[Kamikaze]

True enough about Indiana Jones. I didn't mean to suggest that this was evidence of Disney not wanting to spend money. But rather that this is a case where a lot of money would have to be spent in relation to the payoff, like the Mission: Space hallway, and for that reason I understand why they wouldn't have considered it with SWL situated as it is.

Oh, I'm not saying they should have considered it, especially if they have a different play for the space. But if they wished to do so, it would have been possible. ST would have to be completely changed for this to work as well, and I'd rather have the immersive land encompassing all of SW than to have this attraction stuck out on the outside.

Also - if the third SWL attraction is going to happen in FL any time soon, it will be needed more desperately if ST is gone.

 

[Unplugged]

Yea, heaven forbid that we should have to use our own imaginations. I wonder if that comes from our societies current obsessions with electronic images. If you don't show us we cannot envision it. I can remember, as a child, playing store with a wooden plank and a small sawhorse draped over the top (acting as a cash register) and playing for hours or getting in my wagon with one leg out and pushing it around a dirt path and imagining I was driving cross country. Like the demise of "Sounds Dangerous" if we cannot physically see it... we cannot imagine it. I wonder if imagineers will even be a possibility in the future.

There is indeed a certain level of "mental laziness" induced by the current technology. I find myself pushing my kid to really use his noggin and not to default to lazy if he wants to be cutting edge with ideas and creativity. You and I know that not everything the Imagineers present can be properly explained in a story, nor should it be. After all, I don't recall going through a time gateway to venture from MK's Tomorrowland to Fantasyland, or any other lands for that matter. Nor do we get on a simulated flight at AK to go from Asia to Africa. I think people that demand that level of immersion may be the same people who were having break downs when Avatar was in the theaters because "it's so beautiful and I can't go there".

People need to realize this is ultimately a theme park, and as rich a story as may be developed, it is not practical at some degrees to go beyond certain levels of telling the story. Universal needed another way to connect the 2 parks, so H.E. was a clever solution, thus the theme and technology was a great use. But I would much rather have an additional attraction or more immersive theme (landscaping & structural) around a land than an HE style transportation between lands.

Added the price increase on the damn Pixie Dust, and that's out the window too. Guess I'll have to figure out my own recipe for the next trip! (LOL)

 

[Goofyernmost]

There is indeed a certain level of "mental laziness" induced by the current technology. I find myself pushing my kid to really use his noggin and not to default to lazy if he wants to be cutting edge with ideas and creativity. You and I know that not everything the Imagineers present can be properly explained in a story, nor should it be. After all, I don't recall going through a time gateway to venture from MK's Tomorrowland to Fantasyland, or any other lands for that matter. Nor do we get on a simulated flight at AK to go from Asia to Africa. I think people that demand that level of immersion may be the same people who were having break downs when Avatar was in the theaters because "it's so beautiful and I can't go there".

People need to realize this is ultimately a theme park, and as rich a story as may be developed, it is not practical at some degrees to go beyond certain levels of telling the story. Universal needed another way to connect the 2 parks, so H.E. was a clever solution, thus the theme and technology was a great use. But I would much rather have an additional attraction or more immersive theme (landscaping & structural) around a land than an HE style transportation between lands.

Added the price increase on the damn Pixie Dust, and that's out the window too. Guess I'll have to figure out my own recipe for the next trip! (LOL)

I agree with everything you said, with one exception, I found HE to be the highlight of my trip. I rode it both ways and completely enjoyed it and I have never read a Potter book or seen a Potter movie. I'd love for Disney to do something like that, not the same of course, but, I thought it was a perfect ride and talk about immersion.

 

[Kman101]

I love (love) Star Tours and it likely could be slightly retooled to serve as a Hogwarts Express of sorts but I'm fine with a retheme. Why are we clinging to this? Sure the Falcon and Star Tours are very different but I don't think we need two simulators for Stars Wars. But I'm likely mostly alone in that thinking ...

 

[Goofyernmost]

I love (love) Star Tours and it likely could be slightly retooled to serve as a Hogwarts Express of sorts but I'm fine with a retheme. Why are we clinging to this? Sure the Falcon and Star Tours are very different but I don't think we need two simulators for Stars Wars. But I'm likely mostly alone in that thinking ...

No, your not alone, but, I don't think that way because of too many or not enough simulators. Theme doesn't mean everything has to be the same exact subject. In Adventure Land we have Jungle Cruise, Pirates, Tiki Room, Tree house and even spitting camels. It isn't just one IP, it is many. Star Wars fans whose grouping is large for some reason want Disney areas to become all Star Wars all the time. There are many other genres to be seen and enjoyed. Two or three related attractions are fine and when you add theme restaurants and stores, well, that is just one big attraction. Basically something new for Disney and way out of line with Walt's vision. That said, Walt's vision doesn't necessarily fly anymore. Some basics like quality and entertainment sure... but, broken record attractions were not his thing. Something new that another large group of non-Star Wars fans can enjoy would be greatly appreciated. Star Tours is a great attraction, but, there are so many other things that can go in there that would work equally well with the simulators.

I have always had a problem with the push back for ride mechanisms. AA's, simulators and screens are all necessary to make any immersion in a story possible, how can there be to many of any of those? Don't like screens then one might decide to skip out of the 21st century because the current screen shows are more real and more believable then any other form of entertainment and are inherently part of the 21 century.

 

[uncle jimmy]

I agree with everything you said, with one exception, I found HE to be the highlight of my trip. I rode it both ways and completely enjoyed it and I have never read a Potter book or seen a Potter movie. I'd love for Disney to do something like that, not the same of course, but, I thought it was a perfect ride and talk about immersion.

With the talk of the SW hotel, I was picturing the imagineers developing a ride system like H.E. that would transport people to and from the land to the hotel without breaking the SW storytelling... Since the rumored hotel is a starship, maybe they'll be transporter ships taking you to another planet.

 

[Goofyernmost]

With the talk of the SW hotel, I was picturing the imagineers developing a ride system like H.E. that would transport people to and from the land to the hotel without breaking the SW storytelling... Since the rumored hotel is a starship, maybe they'll be transporter ships taking you to another planet.

That might work, but, then wouldn't it be limited to those that stay at the hotel. Seems like that will cause more problems then it will solve.

 

[marni1971]

With the talk of the SW hotel, I was picturing the imagineers developing a ride system like H.E. that would transport people to and from the land to the hotel without breaking the SW storytelling... Since the rumored hotel is a starship, maybe they'll be transporter ships taking you to another planet.

I think they'll develop a system where you put one foot in front of the other.

 

[uncle jimmy]

I think they'll develop a system where you put one foot in front of the other.

Ah, like the transporter used in AK for Pandora? I hope they build this hotel close

 

[Mouse3268]

I think they'll develop a system where you put one foot in front of the other.

I loled

 

[Katie G]

New aerials from @biorecontruct. A bunch more than the below links on his twitter. So exciting to see track for Slinky coaster

https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871392843880902656

Toy Story
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871394904668348416
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871395563702505473
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871394357085167616
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871393853680603136

Star Wars
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871391892143001600
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871392512077955073
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871391537728552961

 

[Creathir]

New aerials from @biorecontruct. A bunch more than the below links on his twitter. So exciting to see track for Slinky coaster

https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871392843880902656

Toy Story
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871394904668348416
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871395563702505473
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871394357085167616
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871393853680603136

Star Wars
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871391892143001600
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871392512077955073
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/871391537728552961

So I've been watching progress at DL via the updates on YouTube, and maybe it's just perspective, but the DHS version appears SMALLER, specifically in the queue/show building layout.

Is that the case, or is it just because this is a true shot from the sky as opposed to the top of the Mickey parking garage?

 

[danlb_2000]

So I've been watching progress at DL via the updates on YouTube, and maybe it's just perspective, but the DHS version appears SMALLER, specifically in the queue/show building layout.

Is that the case, or is it just because this is a true shot from the sky as opposed to the top of the Mickey parking garage?

They are the same size, I think it is, as you say, distorted by the perspective.

 

[LieutLaww]

I see the same thing when you look at our version of the building there really doesn't seem like as much room there for the large circular part (which could be the load building) and the Muppets area, again it could just be perspective, or our version will have a slightly different layout.

 

[danlb_2000]

I see the same thing when you look at our version of the building there really doesn't seem like as much room there for the large circular part (which could be the load building) and the Muppets area, again it could just be perspective, or our version will have a slightly different layout.

The circular area is already there.

Here is the aerial of the DL version showing the boundary of the show building.

Here is the latest DHS aerial with the show building boundary in red and where the round part will be in blue.

 

[LieutLaww]

As i said it is probably just the perspective of the pics that we are seeing that makes it look like there doesn't seem to be the room for it.