Destination D: Amazing Adventures, at Contemporary Nov 19-20, 2016

danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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JohnD said:
A bus is a bus is a bus is a bus.
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Unless it's the Big Bus...

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Mawg

Mawg

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OK, so I was out of town this weekend and was hoping to come back to read about some cool new stuff. I've been into most of the threads now and I believe I've read about everything, let me summarize:

one new piece of concept art from StarWars land that appears to be the same as the last released one.
One movie of an Animatronic from Avatar land no other details except some experience concept art but nothing really attraction related.
A new adventure will be added to StarTours
New Magic Bands
Same gross pizza
nothing for ToyStory land
Cabanas at the Magic Kingdom
River of Lights is still a no show
Guardian's is not going into TOT
new bus prototypes

Did I miss anything else important? I was hoping for more reading after this weekend. :(
 
JohnD

JohnD

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Mawg said:
OK, so I was out of town this weekend and was hoping to come back to read about some cool new stuff. I've been into most of the threads now and I believe I've read about everything, let me summarize:

one new piece of concept art from StarWars land that appears to be the same as the last released one.
One movie of an Animatronic from Avatar land no other details except some experience concept art but nothing really attraction related.
A new adventure will be added to StarTours
New Magic Bands
Same gross pizza
nothing for ToyStory land
Cabanas at the Magic Kingdom
River of Lights is still a no show
Guardian's is not going into TOT
new bus prototypes

Did I miss anything else important? I was hoping for more reading after this weekend. :(
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New Arts Festival in Epcot January - February
Avatar opens Summer 2017 (no specific date)
Epcot rumored to get an overhaul (no specifics)
DINOSAUR re-opened
 
JohnD

JohnD

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Prototype82 said:
Am I wrong for being absolutely terrified for the fate of the France Pavilion?
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Don't know if you should be or not. Why? Other than a refresh of Impressions de France (needs updated video from today, not the 1980s. The hairstyles and clothes, particularly in the wedding scene are dated. Keep the music, please.)
 
Prototype82

Prototype82

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JohnD said:
Don't know if you should be or not. Why? Other than a refresh of Impressions de France (needs updated video from today, not the 1980s. The hairstyles and clothes, particularly in the wedding scene are dated. Keep the music, please.)
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That's the thing. That's exactly what it needs, but not likely what it would get. From the announcement, I can only expect more franchises to work their way into the park. EPCOT is dangerously lost.
 
JohnD

JohnD

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Prototype82 said:
That's the thing. That's exactly what it needs, but not likely what it would get. From the announcement, I can only expect more franchises to work their way into the park. EPCOT is dangerously lost.
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I prefer to be optimistic, particularly from the vibes I'm getting.
 
monothingie

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Premium Member
"the definition of insanity is doing something over and over again and expecting a different result" -Albert Einstein.

Haven't we waded through the same basic issues and hopes about Epcot year after year after the fanboi extravaganza convention, and get nothing to show for it?

Well this year's different, we got an extra month and a half of Drunkcot.

And $650 tents at the MK.
 
theRIOT

theRIOT

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MKCP 1985 said:
D23 has no soulfulness. I was a founding member, defended it in these forums against its critics. The events were mostly in California, the really good events sold out immediately and over time the face of D23, Steven Clark disappeared and was not replaced and the quarterly gifts stopped. The year that the 4th quarter gift - historically a replica of a Christmas card Walt Disney had sent - was a discount coupon for skin care product, I decided to non-renew.

I read the reviews of D23 events at WDW and they always included an element of disappointment. Myself, I attended a Fanniversery event in Atlanta and had mixed feelings about the experience.

My recommendation, support the Walt Disney Family Museum instead. Unless you want to take a Disney Studios tour - you'll need to be a D23 member to do that. But to feel a connection to the Walt Disney part of the history- the museum in San Francisco is a good choice.
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I would like to add to your sentiment that true fans of Walt should look up the Walt Disney Hometown Museum in Marceline, MO. https://www.waltdisneymuseum.org/

The owners have taken the old train station Walt arrived at when he was 5-years-old and turned it into a celebration of his time spent there. The owners actually had Walt stay at their home back when he came to visit to dedicate the Autopia he donated. They have so many great stories. Check it out sometime.
 
Master Yoda

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
monothingie said:
"the definition of insanity is doing something over and over again and expecting a different result" -Albert Einstein.

Haven't we waded through the same basic issues and hopes about Epcot year after year after the fanboi extravaganza convention, and get nothing to show for it?

Well this year's different, we got an extra month and a half of Drunkcot.

And $650 tents at the MK.
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Just an FYI.

http://www.news.hypercrit.net/2012/11/13/einstein-on-misattribution-i-probably-didnt-say-that/
 
ghidorah97

ghidorah97

Member
Prototype82 said:
That's the thing. That's exactly what it needs, but not likely what it would get. From the announcement, I can only expect more franchises to work their way into the park. EPCOT is dangerously lost.
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I see comments like this all the time on these forums, and I truly can't understand it. At the end of the day, the purpose of these theme parks is to turn a profit (just like any business). They certainly are not there to try and live up to some idealized, long abandoned vision that, quite frankly, was never going to be profitable and was abandoned a couple decades ago.

I'm truly not trying to be argumentative (even though I know I likely sound that way, so I'll apologize for that). I really just struggle to understand the vehement reactions that some people have to the inclusion of IP in EPCOT. Couldn't an "edutainment" approach accomplish the goal of introducing park goers to different histories and cultures while, at the same time, entertaining them? You draw them in with the thrill/entertaining attraction - then move them along to an exploration of the people, history and culture of the country. I, personally, think it can work (if done correctly, which I'll grant, is the scariest aspect).
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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MisterPenguin said:
For you.

But we already had people admit they forgot that so much of what they considered authentic Disney were other people's properties, some of which were fully fleshed out.

We're already witnessing a generation that doesn't know the difference between what is authentically Pixar and what is authentically Disney. And the same will happen for all the other acquisitions when people grow up going to LucasFilm, Pixar, and Marvel Lands inside Disney parks. That will happen whether you like it or not.
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That "other people's properties" issue really hangs you up, apparently. So let me explain. Yeah, Disney didn't create Mary Poppins or Pinocchio - so what? It's the artistry of Disney's movie adaptations that people respond to, remember and consider authentic Disney. By contrast, Lucas' creations are not Disney adaptations. Neither is anything Marvel. Those are mere acquisitions of properties already fully developed, which was a plus in Iger's eyes, because all of the financial risks had already been taken, and an audience for those properties was already there.

I don't think the lines are going to blur between authentic Disney and Iger's acquisitions as much as you think. As WDW1974 has said, they are poor fits within the company aesthetic. For my part, if making movies based on those acquisitions boosts the company's bottom line, then fine, but when those properties are shoehorned into the parks, then there's a clash of aesthetics that are, to me anyway, unpleasant and sometimes stomach-turning (the Animation Courtyard being replaced with Star Wars). That kind of thing is almost an assault on what the Parks were intended for. Walt didn't create them with the idea of making them merchandising outlets. But this argument is kind of a moot point, I guess. The pirates have found the treasure, and we can't do much to keep them from looting it. And so it goes.
 
Prototype82

Prototype82

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ghidorah97 said:
You draw them in with the thrill/entertaining attraction - then move them along to an exploration of the people, history and culture of the country. I, personally, think it can work (if done correctly, which I'll grant, is the scariest aspect).
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I understand that it's a business. Epcot would make a lot of money off of thrilling attractions. A Fuji coaster in Japan, etc. I would love thrill rides in World Showcase or Future World that are truly unique. If they wanted to build a sleek futuristic coaster in FW for the sake of having a thrill ride: of course I'd back that. I'd back some sort of Ratatouille interactive show in France. Franchises sell merch. I do understand that. It's when a country's representation is entirely replaced with a snowman or a rat, when I start having problems. We are looking at dated 360 films when we have developed insane 360 lenses... But we won't get anything like that because characters sell. I want to be optimistic that they will do it right...
 

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