lazyboy97o
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The inspection laws weren’t written to just create stricter rules for Fun Spot. Nor do they only exempt Disney.
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News DeSantis moves to bring state safety oversight of the Walt Disney World Monorail including suspending the service for inspections
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No. I brought the state inspection on how it is a lose lose argument either way. It is an authoritarian reach of authority even if it does work. (Many studies show it does not)You can have a car.you plan on not driving at all. Like legally you set yourseld up to not have it anywhere but your land, but you still must register it and have it inspected many states with that practice.
Saying it is ok because it works is the "But the trains were on time" argument again I keep seeing people post about comparing DeSantis to wicked Dictators. The guy does not have any of my vote no matter what office, but yeah.
No.
Their existence as an executive branch agency subject to the whims of the governor will.
Stop thinking that Florida is a place run by technocrats and laws. If you haven't noticed, laws are now subject to the governor's whims and clearly unqualified people can get appointments.
Yeah. I know we disagree but I thank you for pointing out the disingenuous nature there.
We have no idea what standards will be written.
Dranth
Well-Known Member
Using the government for silencing or punishing those that disagree is 100% authoritarian. That was the point of the analogy, not that nothing else could be.
They've clearly and on record said the intention is to punish Disney. And just based by the vague parts of the law, I expect the standards to be unreasonable and unrealistic as to the point of being punitive, and the enforcement to be arbitrary.
Stop assuming you're dealing with American politicians: this is third world crap.
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
Once an inspection takes place, WDW would have standing to challenge the inspection. At this point, WDW does not have standing.
flynnibus
Premium Member
The language that instructions the DOT to create the standards and on what basis those would be created was not modified from before. What was modified what systems would be in scope and added language about explictly including structural inspections for raised elements and shutdowns for inspector safety. The DOT is going to have to create standards for these new systems, and be site specific... and written considering:
"Standards must be site-specific for fixed-guideway transportation systems and shall be developed jointly by the department and representatives of the affected systems, giving full consideration to nationwide industry safety norms relating to the development and operation of fixed guideway transportation systems."
Yes, the points about the potential for government abuse are there (and always have been) -- but gripes about 'vague' laws or non-existent standards are hand waving and not really valid arguments.
There is no potential for government abuse in thise case, because the entire premise for it was as a result of government abuse. Therefore there is no reason to assume that the standards - when implemented - will be done in good faith.
And read the law, it is vague.
Thank you. It does not take much, but you have way more tact and a clear communication on what I was trying to say in this respect than I have. The wording of the law is always vague and offers abuse. I am glad we are all on the look out for the abuse that can always happen, but the bolded point you have there remains true.
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The Governor has signed HB 1305, the transportation bill that also authorizes the Florida Department of Transportation to inspect Walt Disney World’s monorail system. The bill goes into effect July 1, 2023.
Surferboy567
Well-Known Member
He just can’t help himself, arming Disney with more ammo for the lawsuit.The Governor has signed HB 1305, the transportation bill that also authorizes the Florida Department of Transportation to inspect Walt Disney World’s monorail system. The bill goes into effect July 1, 2023.
Gotta love the quick turnaround date on anything Disney related. Everything else seems to move much slower. They need an injunction.
JohnD
Well-Known Member
He signed 37 bills at the same time which means this one was signed without fanfare as was SB 1604 which revoked the RCID development agreement. The bill containing the inspections was an "omnibus" transportation bill with an amendment regarding the inspections added on late in the process.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I’m curious how you have “standardized” inspections for a system that was custom and nothing like it has been built in decades?
They make their own replacement parts
They make their own replacement parts
JoeCamel
Well-Known Member
So on the wild chance this is implemented then TWDC no longer needs monorail inspectors and CFTOD/FDOT does - so same people?
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
Maybe he’ll find issues and buy new ones for them? lol
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
I doubt the state would hire those same inspectors.
Squishy
Well-Known Member
The way he's acting I wouldn't be surprised if they start picking at every single detail and say it needs to be shutdown due to safety concerns.