News DeSantis moves to bring state safety oversight of the Walt Disney World Monorail including suspending the service for inspections

[flynnibus]

So on the wild chance this is implemented then TWDC no longer needs monorail inspectors and CFTOD/FDOT does - so same people?

uhh... just because you are regulated doesn't mean you stop doing your own work.

Disney has the same internal needs it had before. It will just have new oversight and potentially new standards to meet in the future.

 

[Squishy]

uhh... just because you are regulated doesn't mean you stop doing your own work.

Disney has the same internal needs it had before. It will just have new oversight and potentially new standards to meet in the future.

Desantis will make sure those "new standards" are set to max, he's going to try anyway to inconvenience the company at this point.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Desantis will make sure those "new standards" are set to max, he's going to try anyway to inconvenience the company at this point.

The more he pushes, the more holes he puts in his own boat publicly though

It’s ridiculous it went this far

 

[Disone]

I don't disagree with the idea.

But implementation needs to include standards that are public and inspectors that are qualified. Otherwise, why bother?

Now my question, given how we've clearly seen DeSantis acting in bad faith this entire time, and some particular vagueness to the new regulations: do you see these inspections coming forward in good faith?

As they're written, HYPOTHETICALLY, the inspectors could shut down Haunted Mansion or Spaceship Earth for inspection - among many other attractions - since they:

1- Operate in a special district operating in multiple contiguous counties
2- Run on a rail
3- Transport people between two locations: separate load and unload areas.

Better example.... The Walt Disney World Railroad. Operates and a district that happens to be in two counties that are continuous. Check. Runs on a rail. Check. Transports between two locations. Definitely check.

Also would be noteworthy to mention that Peter Pan's flight is in fact a monorail. Also with a separate load and unload station.

 

[WDWFanRay]

He's showing all his cards now, and hoping Disney folds before he is forced to actually play them.

How does Disney fold? I think Disney is pretty much out of loop on this. They had special privileges setup in the 60’s and were able to stay under the radar for decades. They should’ve kept their head down.

 

[Figgy1]

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[WDWFanRay]

Why should they?

As usual, you missed the point. The question is, How does Disney fold? What capitulation can Disney do to stop this? I think it’s out of their hands.

 

[mkt]

As usual, you missed the point. The question is, How does Disney fold? What capitulation can do will stop this? I think it’s out of their hands.

Of course. It's in the court's hands.

 

[WDWFanRay]

Of course. It's in the court's hands.

Florida court? Disney’s case is DOA

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Florida court? Disney’s case is DOA

As usual, you missed the point. Disney filed the suit in federal court.

 

[Figgy1]

Florida court? Disney’s case is DOA

Disney has sued in federal court

 

[mkt]

Florida court? Disney’s case is DOA

Disney sued in Federal Court, Disney v DeSantis, 4:23-cv-163

 

[MagicHappens1971]

As usual, you missed the point. The question is, How does Disney fold? What capitulation can Disney do to stop this? I think it’s out of their hands.

My point was, as we've already mentioned. It is out of Disney's hands, they filed suit in federal court. And there's no reason for them to "fold". They spoke up about something they felt strongly about, and are being punished for it.

It would be like if I went to a protest against police brutality and then the local police department launched a targeted campaign against me. Why would I fold?

 

[MagicHappens1971]

What’s the federal government’s power in Florida? States rights. They might as well sue in California.

The supremacy clause?

Disney's filing for constitutional violations. Unless Florida ceded from the union last week, the case still applies.

 

[mkt]

What’s the federal government’s power in Florida? States rights. They might as well sue in California.

The US Constitution is literally the law of the land. Once again, the supremacy clause of the constitution - the same document where the tenth amendment IS about states' rights - says that the constitution and federal law go above state laws.

 

[StaceyH_SD]

What’s the federal government’s power in Florida? States rights. They might as well sue in California.

Last I checked Florida hadn’t seceded from the US yet.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

No, I’m saying that the Florida government is doing whatever they want with impunity. If What on earth do you think the federal government can force them to do?

A federal judge can strike down the laws Florida passed that enacted any of this.

 

[mkt]

You mean the Supreme Court? Good luck with that.

Sorry, whatever your name is

It's in the Federal court in Northern District of Florida.

And even if it gets appealed all the way to SCOTUS, it won't matter. SCOTUS justices aren't politicians: they're bound by law and the constitution. And as has been clearly explained to you: US Constitution > State Law.

 

[mkt]

No, I’m saying that the Florida government is doing whatever they want with impunity. What on earth do you think the federal government can force them to do?

Strike down the law. Literally, that's it.

 

[WDWFanRay]

Thank you for opening up the bias behind your posts.

You can mention a philosophy without being for it. Keeping your eyes and mind closed to the reality of the way things are is foolish.