News DeSantis moves to bring state safety oversight of the Walt Disney World Monorail including suspending the service for inspections

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Lilofan

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MagicHappens1971 said:
What do you mean by this? All I was saying is that, yes it was a freak accident, but 14 years ago I would’ve welcomed more oversight. The state was clearly not interested. I’m also confused by the cast member directing monorails thing from off property
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Just stating facts. After the incident CMs no longer allowed to direct monorail off property on their dinner break.
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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Lilofan said:
Just stating facts. After the incident CMs no longer allowed to direct monorail off property on their dinner break.
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Im not discrediting what you’re saying, could you elaborate though? How could one direct the monorail on their unpaid dinner break? Disney is crazy about time worked is time paid.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Dranth said:
Useless information to be sure but I was bored.

There has been one death on the monorail I know of and a quick google search put estimates at over a billion riders lifetime. Using that as a base line you are looking at less than a 0.0000001% chance of being killed on the monorail to date. That is orders of magnitude lower than your chance to die from a shark attack.

Just about the only thing less likely to kill you is a shark attack while on the actual monorail.
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Ron is now going to officially cancel New Smyrna Beach 🌊🏄
 
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Lilofan

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MagicHappens1971 said:
What do you mean by this? All I was saying is that, yes it was a freak accident, but 14 years ago I would’ve welcomed more oversight. The state was clearly not interested. I’m also confused by the cast member directing monorails thing from off property
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Amazing pre DeSantis , in the fatal monorail incident , state didn't want to take over with more oversight and inspecting? Hmmmmm........
 
note2001

note2001

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MagicHappens1971 said:
I do feel horrible about the pilot that died, but had the state instated these inspections 14 years ago when that happened, I wouldn't have commented on it.
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Monorails are unique trains in that they have no bumper system to absorb impact. The issue was that combined with the sloped design of the nose cone causing one rail car to slide up and into the other. An inspection would not have prevented the result of the impact. What it may have done is to bring to light that there was a lack of staffing/training on the job preventing the accident to start with.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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tissandtully said:
how do you direct a monorail off property? It's a remote system or like over the phone?
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MagicHappens1971 said:
Im not discrediting what you’re saying, could you elaborate though? How could one direct the monorail on their unpaid dinner break? Disney is crazy about time worked is time paid.
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Trauma said:
To me it sounds like an employee that broke all sorts of protocol.

I don’t think any safety inspection from anyone could have prevented the incident.
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There was a supervisor overseeing and relaying radio communications who was off site at the time getting dinner. This came about because the person on site left due to illness. It wasn’t a routine procedure but was allowed. It’s a fact that is memorable but wasn’t some big cause as the person in that position was always remote from the various positions and places involved. Not a great practice but also not the thing that would have prevented the person at the shop from not verifying that the switch actually switched or the overriding of the anti-collision systems.
 
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Trauma

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lazyboy97o said:
There was a supervisor overseeing and relaying radio communications who was off site at the time getting dinner. This came about because the person on site left due to illness. It wasn’t a routine procedure but was allowed. It’s a fact that is memorable but wasn’t some big cause as the person in that position was always remote from the various positions and places involved. Not a great practice but also not the thing that would have prevented the person at the shop from not verifying that the switch actually switched or the overriding of the anti-collision systems.
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Forgive my ignorance but I’m assuming that this type of accident would not be possible with a more modern safety system, that I’m assuming was installed after the incident ?
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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note2001 said:
Monorails are unique trains in that they have no bumper system to absorb impact. The issue was that combined with the sloped design of the nose cone causing one rail car to slide up and into the other. An inspection would not have prevented the result of the impact. What it may have done is to bring to light that there was a lack of staffing/training on the job preventing the accident to start with.
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What you’re trying to say is…they were designed in the 1950’s…and as such didn’t have more modern ideas and safety study results to work off of?



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Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Trauma said:
Forgive my ignorance but I’m assuming that this type of accident would not be possible with a more modern safety system, that I’m assuming was installed after the incident ?
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They did some retrofits and I believe changed the control system? It was a pretty long process if I recall? Like a couple of years?

Anyway…they’re old. Built for a time when if you mistaken got banged with a door…they apologized and gave you a free ticket…
Not an 8 figure settlement 🙄
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Trauma said:
Forgive my ignorance but I’m assuming that this type of accident would not be possible with a more modern safety system, that I’m assuming was installed after the incident ?
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The automated system was installed as a result of the accident. The pilots supervise and initiate movement but it is all now computer controlled. A lot of the things related to movement that people say are due to poor upkeep are not, they’re the automated system driving the train.
 
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disneylandtour

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Dranth said:
Useless information to be sure but I was bored.

There has been one death on the monorail I know of and a quick google search put estimates at over a billion riders lifetime. Using that as a base line you are looking at less than a 0.0000001% chance of being killed on the monorail to date. That is orders of magnitude lower than your chance to die from a shark attack.

Just about the only thing less likely to kill you is a shark attack while on the actual monorail.
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I believe that death was an operator in a pilot's booth. Guests are no longer allowed in pilot's areas to protect them, as the front and backs of the train are the most vulnerable part if there is a collision. (The death was related to a collision. From memory, in or near a station, though that last part could be wrong.). Anyway, if you're a guest, with this, you have a 0% chance of being killed to date.
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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disneylandtour said:
I believe that death was an operator in a pilot's booth. Guests are no longer allowed in pilot's areas to protect them, as the front and backs of the train are the most vulnerable part if there is a collision. (The death was related to a collision. From memory, in or near a station, though that last part could be wrong.). Anyway, if you're a guest, with this, you have a 0% chance of being killed to date.
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But how about falling out an open door/window or have a part drop on you? Not a zero chance
 

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