JohnD
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As far as I can tell, it's two: SB 1604 (signed today) and HB 1305.
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News DeSantis moves to bring state safety oversight of the Walt Disney World Monorail including suspending the service for inspections
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GhostHost1000
Premium Member
Unfortunately there have been deaths related to the monorail as well
Other than the tragic death of the CM, there have been others related to the operation?
Dranth
Well-Known Member
Which would have been the time to change/add inspections instead of 14 years later.
Edit to add: I believe this is when Disney changed the rules on riding up front as well.
JohnD
Well-Known Member
That was brought up in debate. No. Just in 2009.
JohnD
Well-Known Member
That was also brought up in debate.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
No other fatalities that I’m aware of. Here’s a page I found showing other incidents and injuries however
WDW Monorail Accident Page
A list of accidents, crashes, fire, and mishaps during the years of operation of the Walt Disney World
www.bigfloridacountry.com
Stripes
Premium Member
Disney and RCID are their own entities. The state didn’t dissolve Reedy Creek, they changed the governance structure.
The state stripped Disney of its statutory right as a landowner to vote for the district’s board, thereby harming Disney. In no way does that imply that Disney and RCID are the same.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
Well they did dissolve it originally, but realized that was not a good idea due to the billion-dollar bonds that RCID has. They reinstated RCID and changed the governance structure. Obviously just semantics, but its important to recognize how stupid these people are.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
I do feel horrible about the pilot that died, but had the state instated these inspections 14 years ago when that happened, I wouldn't have commented on it.
JohnD
Well-Known Member
There is $212,460 appropriated in the FDOT 5 year work program for RCID "routine maintenance." I have no idea what that means. Just pointing out what I found.
Stripes
Premium Member
Well not just the bonds but also the hundreds of millions in additional expenses every year in order to maintain the infrastructure and services RCID provides.
It was also illegal for them to dissolve the district because the 2018 utility revenue bond prohibited redemption until October 2029 and the state made a promise to bond holders that they wouldn’t interfere with the district’s taxing powers. So the state couldn’t dissolve the district without paying off all of the bonds and they couldn’t pay off the 2018 utility revenue bond even if they wanted to.
Cast member was directing monorail vehicles while eating dinner off property , 21 year old pilot CM killed in incident. Civil trial never happened. Disney and family reached settlement.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
If the state could’ve, they would’ve saddled Orange & Osceola counties with the debt just to spite Disney.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Exactly. Legislation sincerely intended to subject the monorail system to state oversight with the intention of increasing safety might be a good thing. Discussion of the safety of the monorail system or other attractions at WDW is likewise a very valid topic, one that has been discussed at length on these boards, and will be discussed again. But that is not this legislation and that is not this thread.
THIS thread is about a bill that is part of a broader effort by the Florida government to punish speech it doesn't like and create a mechanism through which the government can regulate the ideological content of the media. The bill is neither motivated by nor intended to actually address safety issues. Discussing those issues in this thread is off-topic, obscures the governments actual intentions, and works to justify and legitimize unconstitutional governmental repression of free speech. If we want to discuss monorail safety issues, I'd suggest it be done elsewhere.
How are you directing monorails from dinner off property?
Maybe I’m misunderstanding you.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
What do you mean by this? All I was saying is that, yes it was a freak accident, but 14 years ago I would’ve welcomed more oversight. The state was clearly not interested. I’m also confused by the cast member directing monorails thing from off property
Dranth
Well-Known Member
Useless information to be sure but I was bored.
There has been one death on the monorail I know of and a quick google search put estimates at over a billion riders lifetime. Using that as a base line you are looking at less than a 0.0000001% chance of being killed on the monorail to date. That is orders of magnitude lower than your chance to die from a shark attack.
Just about the only thing less likely to kill you is a shark attack while on the actual monorail.
There has been one death on the monorail I know of and a quick google search put estimates at over a billion riders lifetime. Using that as a base line you are looking at less than a 0.0000001% chance of being killed on the monorail to date. That is orders of magnitude lower than your chance to die from a shark attack.
Just about the only thing less likely to kill you is a shark attack while on the actual monorail.
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
that would be a great addition to The Seas
Dranth
Well-Known Member
A shark attack? Certainly, and far more accurate than talking fish. Got to teach those kids about how life really is early.