Animaniac93-98
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I feel like TDA will just spend the next 5-10 years arguing about what to do with Marvel and then give up on it. Just like they did with the resort's parking situation.
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dweezil78
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Marvel seems like it'd only work right as a park -- having to contain such a vast universe into a singular land and be able to cater to all the different characters/stories is going to be a nightmare and will be so watered down.
Animaniac93-98
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UNI did it 20 years ago and Hulk and Spider-Man are still better than most rides at WDW.
The trick is thinking outside the box. UNI tried to build a new, comic-book-style city for the characters to live in. WDI wants to copy hardware designs from the current movies and find a way to neatly arrange them. You can say UNI didn't make it work, but it was the better way to go IMO.
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Especially the poster in question.
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Not to mention they are adding a mountain and a large body of water, features even the most basic Disney theme park has.
dweezil78
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As attraction, Spidey is an incredible dark ride (one of my favorites anywhere). Hulk is a great coaster, but ultimately, it's just an unthemed coaster that you can find at any coaster park with a few extra bells and whistles thanks to Universal's bigger budgets.
As a 'land,' Marvel Island was always super lame and looked like USH's City Walk styled with comic book characters. If you put a bunch of non-creative types in a room back in 1998 and asked them to sketch out a Marvel land, that's exactly what you'd expect to see.
One of the biggest challenges Disney is facing with Marvel is that people no longer view Marvel as a comic book thing. The movies have taken over. 20 years ago you could get away with scaling things back to look like they were taken out of the pages of a comic book, but today's Marvel is incredibly rich with detail and has far more depth to it.
To try and contain all of that (i.e. not Tony Stark & Friends Land) to one little space is going to be pretty tough to pull off successfully.
TROR
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I know it's my job to hate everything Disney announces relating to the three big IP's, but WDS has never had any identity beyond garbage IP dumping ground so I can't be bitter it's getting this love. Tower of Terror and Ratatouille are the best attractions currently in the park and Tower is considered to be a watered down inferior to Florida's (I disagree) and Ratatouille is just movie screens in a warehouse. If you've ever seen walkthroughs of WDS, the place is falling apart with cobwebs even covering the Partners Statue.
Really, though, to me, there are two great pieces of news that aren't being explicitly stated. 1) Disney DOES consider Mission Breakout a failure and that's why it's not the focal point of their Marvel land and 2) With Galaxy's Edge on the way, Space Mountain will return from Hyperspace Mountain and will receive the Jules Verne influenced Mission 3 that's been rumored.
Really, though, to me, there are two great pieces of news that aren't being explicitly stated. 1) Disney DOES consider Mission Breakout a failure and that's why it's not the focal point of their Marvel land and 2) With Galaxy's Edge on the way, Space Mountain will return from Hyperspace Mountain and will receive the Jules Verne influenced Mission 3 that's been rumored.
Curious Constance
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Am I going insane or is the lake in the Frozen area shaped kind of like Paradise Bay?
Is it Pixar Bay now?
Curious Constance
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But as @FerretAfros mentioned, Superhero's live in our world/universe. So why would you want to have an entire park, themed to our world?
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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Good question...similar along the lines of, "Who thought it was a good idea to theme an entire park around the state that the park is in?"
mickEblu
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Still think for DCA the best option would be to include the attractions as part of a land based in California - like a Hollywoodland or San Francisco. I mean most of a Marvel films take place at some big city. Why not SF? Build a land that fits the park and integrate the attractions in that city/ land creatively. Kind of like POTC at NOS.
But no, they went with a 20 Story alien power plant.
mickEblu
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It’s getting offensive at this point. To crap on the most loyal fans. The ones that consistently bring in the most revenue year round and bail out the other parks when they re underperforming.
mickEblu
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Keep this up and you ll be kicked out of the Hall of Blame in no time.
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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Personally, I don't think anything but cosmetic updates will happen at DL until the literal dust of SWL settles.
In the meantime we'll have to endure changes to DCA and DTD.
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mickEblu
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Good point on MB. Last week (or so) when it was announced that they would just be removing the TZ theme but not getting GOTG, I thought it’s maybe because plans are still in flux or for budget reasons. But now that appears plans are pretty solid and they re spending 2.5 billion on the park, what would another 100 million be for GOTG if they considered it a success?
I think it’s pretty clear now. GOTG: MB is not the success they were hoping for. Hopefully they learn their lesson and not retheme popular E tickets for no damn reason other than marketing synergy. How they thought they could just add screens with an MB movie playing and that would be better than a purpose built, loved and proven attraction is beyond me.
dweezil78
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Well obviously I wouldn't want that! With the movies, they've done enough world building that you could have some pretty interesting locations. Definitely a place for a Marvel'ized 'real world' area but then you could also have Wakanda, Ragnarok, something Guardians related, etc. It's not all NY and LA you know!
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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But how would Ragnarok and Wakanda fit into "California Adventure"?
Curious Constance
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Eh, I suppose it's clear that no matter what they do I'm not going to care for it. The whole superhero thing just seems so played out at this point to me.
dweezil78
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They wouldn't... Which is why Marvel at DCA is destined to either A) not fit in with the California theme (I'm totally fine with that) or B) be something vague and generic so that it does fit in (please no!!!) No matter what route it takes, that space isn't nearly large enough to do Marvel justice.