Death on EE

[echoscot]

I think next time there is a tragedy in Disney, two seprate threads should be made - one for arguing about the media and one for properly sharing condolences and sympathy for the family.

But I think we should start arguing about whether to have two threads...:ROFLOL::lol:

 

[JimboJones123]

But I think we should start arguing about whether to have two threads...:ROFLOL::lol:

What a stupid idea .

 

[echoscot]

What a stupid idea .

No it's not:fork:

(your turn:animwink

 

[Tom Morrow]

I think next time there is a tragedy in Disney, two seprate threads should be made - one for arguing about the media and one for properly sharing condolences and sympathy for the family.

Well, this may make me sound like a jerk, but why do you feel obligated to express sympathies on this forum? You didn't know the man, none of us did... and the chances of anyone in his family reading this particular thread are pretty slim.

Basically what I'm saying is, nobody is going to think worse of you if you don't post the obligatory "my thoughts are with his family" post.

 

[PintoColvig]

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I think Tom makes a good point.




My condolences to the family.

 

[The Mom]

One factor contributing to the number of deaths (other than the sheer numbers of guests, and their demographics) is the sedentary lifestyle of the majority.

They go from walking from the car (or bus) to work/school to walking for miles and hours at WDW. Sometimes the extra "rush" on a thrill ride is enough to exceeed the capacity of an already overtaxed heart. Add in undetected cardiac/vascular problems, and it's a wonder that there aren't MORE incidents.

Then you have people who don't have the capacity/ability to do the walking at all, yet they transfer to these rides. Although many are just as fit (or fitter) as anyone with no disability (many exercise routinely to the fullest extent that their condition will allow) there are huge numbers who do absolutely nothing to maintain cardiac fitness, but still go on these rides.

I suspect that we're going to see even more of these stories in the future.

 

[KeeKee]

One factor contributing to the number of deaths (other than the sheer numbers of guests, and their demographics) is the sedentary lifestyle of the majority.

They go from walking from the car (or bus) to work/school to walking for miles and hours at WDW. Sometimes the extra "rush" on a thrill ride is enough to exceeed the capacity of an already overtaxed heart. Add in undetected cardiac/vascular problems, and it's a wonder that there aren't MORE incidents.

Then you have people who don't have the capacity/ability to do the walking at all, yet they transfer to these rides. Although many are just as fit (or fitter) as anyone with no disability (many exercise routinely to the fullest extent that their condition will allow) there are huge numbers who do absolutely nothing to maintain cardiac fitness, but still go on these rides.

I suspect that we're going to see even more of these stories in the future.

I think you are right on target! With the numer of people who pass through the gates at Disney, it is statistically impossible not to expect some to die while gathered there. When you factor in all of the elements that you mentioned, then you have complete certainty that those numbers will increase.

 

[PhotoDave219]

One factor contributing to the number of deaths (other than the sheer numbers of guests, and their demographics) is the sedentary lifestyle of the majority.

They go from walking from the car (or bus) to work/school to walking for miles and hours at WDW. Sometimes the extra "rush" on a thrill ride is enough to exceeed the capacity of an already overtaxed heart. Add in undetected cardiac/vascular problems, and it's a wonder that there aren't MORE incidents.

Then you have people who don't have the capacity/ability to do the walking at all, yet they transfer to these rides. Although many are just as fit (or fitter) as anyone with no disability (many exercise routinely to the fullest extent that their condition will allow) there are huge numbers who do absolutely nothing to maintain cardiac fitness, but still go on these rides.

I suspect that we're going to see even more of these stories in the future.

Well i'm sure those things are beginning to happen, just not with them happening at Disney.

 

[wannab@dis]

Latest update...

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP)--A 44-year-old man who died after riding a Walt Disney World roller coaster had a pre-existing heart condition that caused his death, a medical examiner said Wednesday.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200712191656DOWJONESDJONLINE000935_FORTUNE5.htm

 

[KeeKee]

I read that yesterday in the Sentinel. It just really makes you wonder why he would get on this coaster by himself or at all...

 

[echoscot]

I read that yesterday in the Sentinel. It just really makes you wonder why he would get on this coaster by himself or at all...

Who knows, he may not have even been aware of it...he may have ridden Big Thunder and Space Mountain or Dinosaur and thought "this doesn't look any worse than those rides"


Just a thought...

 

[KeeKee]

Who knows, he may not have even been aware of it...he may have ridden Big Thunder and Space Mountain or Dinosaur and thought "this doesn't look any worse than those rides"


Just a thought...

But the story said it was a known condition. I took away from that that he was aware of it or under a doctor's care.

 

[echoscot]

But the story said it was a known condition. I took away from that that he was aware of it or under a doctor's care.

Oh, I only got that it was pre-existing, I didn't see where it said he knew about it.

Even if someone knows, like sknydave posted, they will do thrill rides. He may have done some with little or no problem, and this was just the "straw that broke the camels back"

 

[wickedfan07]

But the story said it was a known condition. I took away from that that he was aware of it or under a doctor's care.

Just because the condition was pre-existing doesn't mean he necessarily knew about it. there have been several deaths on other rides (Mission space) where the victim had a pre-existing condition they just didn't know about.

 

[KeeKee]

Just because the condition was pre-existing doesn't mean he necessarily knew about it. there have been several deaths on other rides (Mission space) where the victim had a pre-existing condition they just didn't know about.

True, but the paper reported that it was a "known" condition. I imagine that more will continue to come out about it in the next few days as more is known officially.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Just because the condition was pre-existing doesn't mean he necessarily knew about it. there have been several deaths on other rides (Mission space) where the victim had a pre-existing condition they just didn't know about.

Its been widely reported that he was under a doctors care for arrythmia and an enlarged heart. I'm assuming that wen you see a doctor for something that you tend to know about it.

 

[brucie]

I can't imagine such a terrible thing happenning my thoughts are with the family and friends of this terrible tragedy

 

[Crazy4WDW1]

A former co-worker of my husband has heart issues and always rides the coasters, etc. in any amusement park, has so for years. I'm certain the first call his wife would make would be to a lawyer should he croak on a ride. People are just dumb. :hammer:

 

[Sumshine 904]

I was at Animal Kingdom that day!

I didn't hear anything about it while there, since my family didn't get to do much because my mother just absolutely hates the living crap outta the park (too much walking distance; she has a problem with her legs, and if she walks for too long she could collapse). So we left early in the day and headed over to MGM.

How sad for the man's family, my thoughts and prayers go out to him and his relatives.

 

[Space Mountain]

and I just rode Everest 9 times on Wednesday...crazy