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Dead Monsters?
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jt04
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I wouldn't go that far, it just may not happen until 2012 or the premiere of Monsters 2.
EPCOT Explorer
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Did anyone really think DHS was getting MI and ST2 at the same time?! I never did. I think DHS will get the coaster someday but I view the new MI news as a confirmation that ST2 is as green as it gets. MI was going forward as a plan "b" in case Lucas could not make ST2 happen in a timely manner (read 40th). That is how it looks to me.
I did.Thought it would have been cool to have a whole new slew of attractions in DHS.
It's not unlike Disney to do two things at once.
jt04
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I did.Thought it would have been cool to have a whole new slew of attractions in DHS.
It's not unlike Disney to do two things at once.
It would be unusual to add 2 attractions at 1 parks. I have not given up on the 4 for the 40th possibility. Which means something for Epcot too. I'm just hoping FL gets the 100% greenlight or is at least done in a way where all the elements can be completed someday as they are doing with DCA. MI being on hold is positive news!
CaptainMichael
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Bingo.
EPCOT Explorer
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Aha!
Now, we have something to agree on.Seeing that some of the money is going to EPCOT, it makes a resort wide wave look bigger. We just need something for DAK. 4 for the 40th would be awesome. (I'm still apprehensive though, it appears to be MK only at this point...)
However, something getting cut is never positive news IMHO.
jt04
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Aha!
Seeing that some of the money is going to EPCOT, it makes a resort wide wave look bigger. We just need something for DAK. 4 for the 40th would be awesome. (I'm still apprehensive though, it appears to be MK only at this point...)
However, something getting cut is never positive news IMHO.
Like I said it is not a cut. I really believe that they want MI to debut with the Monsters 2 movie but it was going forward in case ST2 wasn't going to happen. Disney does not control Lucas, so I have a feeling the MI coaster was the "plan b". Again I'm engaging in conjecture. We should know more during D23's convention.
WDWFigment
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So you guys are complaining that instead of one ride with a budget likely in the range of $100m, we get one ride and one restaurant (among other things) with a budget likely in the neighborhood of $500-600m?
Assuming, arguendo, it's only one or the other (which is what you two did; I'm only going along with that), I don't know how you complain that the FL project was chosen over MI Coaster.
EPCOT Explorer
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Makes sense, to me actually.:wave:
Orange Bird
Member
It's a matter of taste. I too would pick the FL expansion over Monsters. But really, they could do both. Walt did the New Tomorrowland and Pirates of the Caribbean at the same time in Disneyland, and that was the same park when the company had a lot less financial resources at its disposal.
Jasonflz
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My concern with this is the fact that the Studios is in desperate need of an attraction and expanding Pixar Place is what is necessary. While Studios does have a fair selection of attractions it still isn't worth staying a day. Magic Kingdom has a large selection and there is more to see, so Fantasyland doesn't need to be rushed.
Harry Potter will not affect this at all however. The people who go to Disney will still go to Disney and anyone else will be at IOA.
Harry Potter will not affect this at all however. The people who go to Disney will still go to Disney and anyone else will be at IOA.
Orange Bird
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Now I'm depressed. $100 million is nothing for an E ticket. They should just do both.
This is the company that had Pirates of the Caribbean, Tom Saywer Island, The WEDway Peoplemover, The StarJets, Space Mountain AND The Carousel of Progress all under construction at the same time. All during an oil crisis.
And a company that is meant to be in a better shape today.
EPCOT Explorer
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And that's just for one park. Well said.
CaptainMichael
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They could do both if they spent wisely. I don't understand why a FL refurb has to cost between $500-600m when it's all just a bunch of a fluff for one segment of the population (Minus TLM and the restaurant which is what I said "bingo" to.) MI adds something to a park desperately in need of another attraction that the whole family can enjoy and shouldn't break the bank if budgeted and done right.
WDWFigment
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See the second paragraph of my post that you quoted. They are the ones that said "so we get FL instead of MI." I'm only going along with that, wondering how one would pick MI over FL if forced to choose only one. Even if you would prefer a coaster, in looking at it from the perspective of which is better for the parks, I think FL wins by a mile.
I know a lot of people hate Meet and Greets, but take a look at the lines for Pixie Hollow and the Judge's Tent. These are bona fide attractions to some people and the waits reflect that. Just because they don't appeal to you doesn't mean they shouldn't exist. If that were the case, we would have a tough time advancing the argument that Pleasure Island should have remained. Not everything at WDW is going to appeal to everyone. I don't think it should. To that end, I don't think it's unreasonable to have more meet and greets in the Magic Kingdom.
Jasonflz
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Aren't they run by 2 different bits of management? I understand the funds probably come from the same place but it wouldn't be too difficult to build seperate rides.
jt04
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See DCA.
I'll agree with you if nothing is announced for WDW at D23.
That said, I'd just like to repeat the point that Disney would be making a huge mistake to overreact to Potter and realocate funds from other projects. For instance scaling back Carsland to fund MI at WDW. That would be a major error.
Disney does not have unlimited resources. It's easy to be a critic. Takes no effort whatsoever. But put anyone on these boards into a position of having to make the difficult decisions, and I think most here couldn't handle it. Except Martin of course.
Have a little faith in Lasseter if nothing else. It'll be OK.
jt04
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Goofy69
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I think WDWFigment has the right idea. We all want new and exciting concepts/rides added to Disney, but bashing each other isn't going to help. My belief is that everyone is not trying to discredit the 'insiders' here; it's more that we are upset with the news. We shouldn't "shoot the messenger."
Everyone wants desperately to have a Monsters Inc Coaster added to DHS because it is in serious need of other attractions for better balance. All that being said it has received TSM over the last year or so. I don't remember the last new attraction MK has had in the last several years so in reality it is due.
I have no problem with Disney's decisions as long as they are improving and moving forward every year with the parks in Florida. I also don't believe that Disney is even trying to compete with Potter/IOA and have their own 'method of madness' they are trying to accomplish.
Everyone wants desperately to have a Monsters Inc Coaster added to DHS because it is in serious need of other attractions for better balance. All that being said it has received TSM over the last year or so. I don't remember the last new attraction MK has had in the last several years so in reality it is due.
I have no problem with Disney's decisions as long as they are improving and moving forward every year with the parks in Florida. I also don't believe that Disney is even trying to compete with Potter/IOA and have their own 'method of madness' they are trying to accomplish.