DAS with anxiety disorder

[DryerLintFan]

It might be that people who are able to use it don't care as much because they're not really affected by somebody abusing the system that much unless it becomes kind of ridiculous then it might be something that would concern people. For those of us that don't use it, yes it is annoying to see somebody sneaking in so to speak using the system when they don't really need it, and we know that this does happen. And given that FP is now a paid thing. It is literally stealing.

This is what I keep saying, lol. DAS is only an "advantage" right now because Genie+ is garbage. Nobody cared about it at all when everyone was using FP+.

 

[crazy4disney]

This is what I keep saying, lol. DAS is only an "advantage" right now because Genie+ is garbage. Nobody cared about it at all when everyone was using FP+.

But why would that be the case according to almost every expert on these boards (not sure where you stand) but FP was borderline just as bad... thats what we been told altho i have countless experiences to the contrary as do so many others... DAS honestly really isnt much of an advantage as everyone insist it is,... all this is doing is "holding" a place in line for you to return as opposed to standing in said line which the main person who cant wait and stand... now yes other people in said party can say go ride a couple rides in between and then "benefit" from the person in their party with the DAS... but does that really bother you or others? is anyone that petty that on vacation im concerned about others? are these same people ticked off at all the "rich" people with the plaid tour guides walking onto any ride they want at any time they want as well? where does it end? so say 5% of people abuse the system so be it dont make it effect your trip & waste your energy on it.. just like the example i gave my last trip when the kids literally skipped the entire line and laughed about it

 

[crazy4disney]

Please make a new thread. This doesn't belong here.

you are correct... was just replying to it. par for course tho seems as most threads end up off topic lol

 

[Hawg G]

This is what I keep saying, lol. DAS is only an "advantage" right now because Genie+ is garbage. Nobody cared about it at all when everyone was using FP+.

WRONG! When FP+ existed, DAS was essentially the ability to get TWO FPs at a time. And one of those, the DAS you say was no big deal, was not hours into the future, and did not expire. Oh, and DAS FPs NEVER ran out. You could get a Seven Dwarves FP at 3pm, months after FPS had ran out for the normals.

DAS with FP+ was absolutely incredible. Why must people try to gaslight how good DAS is?

 

[Club Cooloholic]

I really don’t know what to say if this is what you’re taking from my post.

Again, IMO it’s beyond wrong to equate setting a boundary for what will impact your family’s enjoyment to not caring about the abuse.

Yes, I care about the abuse. Yes, I agree it’s stealing. Yes it’s annoying that these people exist.

No, it shouldn’t be a “requirement” that for me to be seen as caring about it, I have to get angry and exorcised about an assumption I have no right making about a family I see for less than 5 mins.

Oh I wasn't saying I disagreed with you. I just reply sometimes to the last post I click, which just happened to be yours.

 

[DryerLintFan]

But why would that be the case according to almost every expert on these boards (not sure where you stand) but FP was borderline just as bad... thats what we been told altho i have countless experiences to the contrary as do so many others... DAS honestly really isnt much of an advantage as everyone insist it is,... all this is doing is "holding" a place in line for you to return as opposed to standing in said line which the main person who cant wait and stand... now yes other people in said party can say go ride a couple rides in between and then "benefit" from the person in their party with the DAS... but does that really bother you or others? is anyone that petty that on vacation im concerned about others? are these same people ticked off at all the "rich" people with the plaid tour guides walking onto any ride they want at any time they want as well? where does it end? so say 5% of people abuse the system so be it dont make it effect your trip & waste your energy on it.. just like the example i gave my last trip when the kids literally skipped the entire line and laughed about it

The problem in this thread is that there's a lack of understanding of the impact of actually having a disability and what that does on ones life in general. I think it was briefly touched upon but brushed aside earlier up thread. Generally speaking, it will put you behind the eight ball, so things like walking across the park, getting things to eat, purchasing souvenirs, going to the restroom, riding other rides, etc. are all much harder than it would be for those without disabilities. So getting the DAS may save you some wait in line, but by the end of the day, most people with disabilities report no significant advantage using the DAS system because their disability put them behind the eight ball and the not waiting on the queue was helpful (ands they're grateful for that) but not enough to give them any "leg up", per SE, because of all the other difficulties of their day.

Then you have other viewpoints from people who maybe aren't considering how disabilities might limit park touring anywhere outside of the lines, looking only at how you can strategically stack rides with DAS. Which on paper you absolutely could. You have two you can reserve before you come. You can reserve another when you badge into the park. You can get Genie+ and LL and then even stand in the standby lines for lower wait time rides and theoretically have one heck of a day riding all the big ticket rides with no wait. It's a valid thought process, too, because if you didn't have a disability that limited your park touring in any way outside of the queues, or if you didn't have a disability at all and were cheating the system, this would be a pretty significant advantage over someone who only hay Genie+ and LL. Or someone who had no extras.

Nobody is bringing the plaid coats into the conversation because those tours are expensive and DAS is free.

WRONG! When FP+ existed, DAS was essentially the ability to get TWO FPs at a time. And one of those, the DAS you say was no big deal, was not hours into the future, and did not expire. Oh, and DAS FPs NEVER ran out. You could get a Seven Dwarves FP at 3pm, months after FPS had ran out for the normals.

That's fair about it not expiring. That is pretty baller.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

The problem in this thread is that there's a lack of understanding of the impact of actually having a disability and what that does on ones life in general. I think it was briefly touched upon but brushed aside earlier up thread. Generally speaking, it will put you behind the eight ball, so things like walking across the park, getting things to eat, purchasing souvenirs, going to the restroom, riding other rides, etc. are all much harder than it would be for those without disabilities. So getting the DAS may save you some wait in line, but by the end of the day, most people with disabilities report no significant advantage using the DAS system because their disability put them behind the eight ball and the not waiting on the queue was helpful (ands they're grateful for that) but not enough to give them any "leg up", per SE, because of all the other difficulties of their day.

Then you have other viewpoints from people who maybe aren't considering how disabilities might limit park touring anywhere outside of the lines, looking only at how you can strategically stack rides with DAS. Which on paper you absolutely could. You have two you can reserve before you come. You can reserve another when you badge into the park. You can get Genie+ and LL and then even stand in the standby lines for lower wait time rides and theoretically have one heck of a day riding all the big ticket rides with no wait. It's a valid thought process, too, because if you didn't have a disability that limited your park touring in any way outside of the queues, or if you didn't have a disability at all and were cheating the system, this would be a pretty significant advantage over someone who only hay Genie+ and LL. Or someone who had no extras.

Nobody is bringing the plaid coats into the conversation because those tours are expensive and DAS is free.




That's fair about it not expiring. That is pretty baller.

I think nobody is concerned with people who have an actual need for DAS, and I am pretty sure anyone with these legit problems would trade all the FPs in the world to be cured of their issue and not use DAS. Its the folks that are seeking it out but don't need it that bother folks.

 

[crazy4disney]

The problem in this thread is that there's a lack of understanding of the impact of actually having a disability and what that does on ones life in general. I think it was briefly touched upon but brushed aside earlier up thread. Generally speaking, it will put you behind the eight ball, so things like walking across the park, getting things to eat, purchasing souvenirs, going to the restroom, riding other rides, etc. are all much harder than it would be for those without disabilities. So getting the DAS may save you some wait in line, but by the end of the day, most people with disabilities report no significant advantage using the DAS system because their disability put them behind the eight ball and the not waiting on the queue was helpful (ands they're grateful for that) but not enough to give them any "leg up", per SE, because of all the other difficulties of their day.

Then you have other viewpoints from people who maybe aren't considering how disabilities might limit park touring anywhere outside of the lines, looking only at how you can strategically stack rides with DAS. Which on paper you absolutely could. You have two you can reserve before you come. You can reserve another when you badge into the park. You can get Genie+ and LL and then even stand in the standby lines for lower wait time rides and theoretically have one heck of a day riding all the big ticket rides with no wait. It's a valid thought process, too, because if you didn't have a disability that limited your park touring in any way outside of the queues, or if you didn't have a disability at all and were cheating the system, this would be a pretty significant advantage over someone who only hay Genie+ and LL. Or someone who had no extras.

Nobody is bringing the plaid coats into the conversation because those tours are expensive and DAS is free.




That's fair about it not expiring. That is pretty baller.

I will say this regarding DAS... and again ill be using it ina few weeks... when FP was around DAS was not used as often as you would think bc there were plenty of options during the day to utilize FP along w my 3 pre booked ones... & thats probably how i used DAS by maybe booking a ride in between here and there or look to re ride something ie 7D during the day but again majority were still me utilizing FP and taking advantage of shorter lines if/when they happened... during my November trip DAS was basically not that much of a help bc of the long wait times ... So i book a RISE FP im not locked in to a solid 120-150 minute purgatory period or even w SDD if we werent lucky enough to get one in the am... and we already know how ineffective Genie was.... in regards to pre booking now... every ride is NOT available and times are at there choosing not yours ... yes dont get me wrong it helps as ive said but for people who truly cant walk etc and are there with a small party you end up doing what during those in between times?

 

[crazy4disney]

I think nobody is concerned with people who have an actual need for DAS, and I am pretty sure anyone with these legit problems would trade all the FPs in the world to be cured of their issue and not use DAS. Its the folks that are seeking it out but don't need it that bother folks.

& as ive said what can that number be 5% of DAS users... you are on vacation who cares what others do... enjoy your time away with your family and friends and embrace it... Life is way too short!

 

[Club Cooloholic]

& as ive said what can that number be 5% of DAS users... you are on vacation who cares what others do... enjoy your time away with your family and friends and embrace it... Life is way too short!

This a forum. It's where we complain about a burned out light bulb on a sign, if one can't complain here about people gaming the system where can they?

 

[crazy4disney]

This a forum. It's where we complain about a burned out light bulb on a sign, if one can't complain here about people gaming the system where can they?

this is very true hahahaha

 

[JohnD]

We're 12 pages in and I'm still trying to understand "DAS with Anxiety Disorder". Is it because of anxiety of being around people and not able to wait in line? I assume that would be the requested need. It can't be about anxiety over the attraction itself, right, because you use DAS similar to Genie+ or Lightning Lane to get on the attraction.

 

[Hawg G]

I think nobody is concerned with people who have an actual need for DAS, and I am pretty sure anyone with these legit problems would trade all the FPs in the world to be cured of their issue and not use DAS. Its the folks that are seeking it out but don't need it that bother folks.

But that's not true either. To me, being stuck in a wheelchair for life would really suck. Those folks don't even get DAS. Oh, but your child might get upset having to wait in line? Here you go, have a free Platinum experience on us. Oh, you are just making up stuff? Here's one for you too! Oh, you are paralyzed from the waist down? We suggest you use a wheelchair and have a Magical day.

I mean, yeah, I see people with serious cognitive issues. But they are few and far between. I mean, you still have to pay to get in the park. If you have mental issues, and aren't going to get much out of it, I wouldn't think theme parks are a priority.

The amount of gaslighting on this thread is mind blowing, honestly. I used DAS a few trips, back with the cards, and honestly hardly EVER saw anyone in the line that seemed disabled AT ALL. So, in my anecdotal opinion, the percentage of truly disabled folks (which excludes most mobility folks because they are shown the standby queue), I just didn't see many. They all seemed to be either fakers or those with "invisible" disabilities like my wife, who had a VERY rare situation. And as someone said earlier, there are many Disney regulars who have convinced themselves they absolutely deserve a DAS for their condition, regardless of if it truly impacts their day. After all, if you are truly disabled, the very act of getting IN TO the Magic Kingdom should be a big challenge. Yet those folks sure weren't the ones I saw in the exit or FP queue with me. And as I mentioned, they all also had their huge entourage or the most part.

 

[DryerLintFan]

We're 12 pages in and I'm still trying to understand "DAS with Anxiety Disorder". Is it because of anxiety of being around people and not able to wait in line? I assume that would be the requested need. It can't be about anxiety over the attraction itself, right, because you use DAS similar to Genie+ or Lightning Lane to get on the attraction.

I don't have Anxiety Disorder so I can't really answer, but I'd guess it would be different for everyone. I have a lot of friends who have anxiety and none of their symptoms seem the same.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Do people using DAS ever ride another ride while waiting for their return time? Honest please.

 

[DryerLintFan]

Do people using DAS ever ride another ride while waiting for their return time? Honest please.

I've never heard of anyone on DAS using it and not riding another ride in between. Or you can grab a DAS return time for something like FoP and go eat lunch at a sit down place and by the time your meal is over your wait time is up and you can go ride it. Or you can get a return time for 7DMT and then go watch a parade or fireworks and come back and hop on the ride.

That's why @Hawg G keeps getting upset whenever anyone says you can't use DAS as an advantage. Because you can. IF you don't have a disability slowing you down you would easily come out ahead.

 

[crazy4disney]

Do people using DAS ever ride another ride while waiting for their return time? Honest please.

I have at times with FP and Genie+ in November ive said it countless times but majority of my rides during a given day was via FP+ thats for sure. In the years ive used it i think the “best” usage is say during dinner i would be able to have a FP and a DAS waiting for me after we ate. Same with breakfast if we ate in a park so basically anywhere except MK would have our FP booked then book a DAS

 

[crazy4disney]

I've never heard of anyone on DAS using it and not riding another ride in between. Or you can grab a DAS return time for something like FoP and go eat lunch at a sit down place and by the time your meal is over your wait time is up and you can go ride it. Or you can get a return time for 7DMT and then go watch a parade or fireworks and come back and hop on the ride.

That's why @Hawg G keeps getting upset whenever anyone says you can't use DAS as an advantage. Because you can. IF you don't have a disability slowing you down you would easily come out ahead.

Ive replied back to this already and said how ive used it and again when one of these threads started it was stated by someone forget who. That it was a Major advantage so on and So forth. I disagree thats its some major advantage and made my trip infinitely better but it definitely has its benefits to offset why someone needs it…

 

[DryerLintFan]

Ive replied back to this already and said how ive used it and again when one of these threads started it was stated by someone forget who. That it was a Major advantage so on and So forth. I disagree thats its some major advantage and made my trip infinitely better but it definitely has its benefits to offset why someone needs it…

I know. I feel like I keep replying the same reply too lol.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Oh I wasn't saying I disagreed with you. I just reply sometimes to the last post I click, which just happened to be yours.

And let me just say I think my response reads as more caustic than it was intended to be (I was meeting a friend for breakfast and needing to finish up quickly as she'd arrived) - so apologies if it read more "angry", it wasn't intended to be!