DAS with anxiety disorder

[Angel Ariel]

I think nobody is concerned with people who have an actual need for DAS, and I am pretty sure anyone with these legit problems would trade all the FPs in the world to be cured of their issue and not use DAS. Its the folks that are seeking it out but don't need it that bother folks.

Agreed, but the issue is that even requiring documentation doesn’t rid that stereotype or sentiment. There’s always going to be people assuming others are gaming the system. Which does hurt those who do need the system.

 

[crazy4disney]

Agreed, but the issue is that even requiring documentation doesn’t rid that stereotype or sentiment. There’s always going to be people assuming others are gaming the system. Which does hurt those who do need the system.

This is where my confusion lies as i stated yesterday. There is virtually NO way when you are in the parks who is or isnt using DAS. So again what are you doing? Assuming everyone who enters the FP/LL queue whatever we are calling it these days cheaters?!? You are on vacation enjoy it please

 

[Angel Ariel]

mean, yeah, I see people with serious cognitive issues. But they are few and far between. I mean, you still have to pay to get in the park. If you have mental issues, and aren't going to get much out of it, I wouldn't think theme parks are a priority.

Now we’re moving into statements of people with cognitive disabilities won’t get much out of it?

Wow.

 

[Angel Ariel]

i can’t help but thinking of our last trip as I’m reading this thread. I was on a meeting with members of my daughter’s IEP team while sitting outside figment in Epcot for probably 30-45 minutes.

Never want to do that again, but sometimes it’s unavoidable.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Ive replied back to this already and said how ive used it and again when one of these threads started it was stated by someone forget who. That it was a Major advantage so on and So forth. I disagree thats its some major advantage and made my trip infinitely better but it definitely has its benefits to offset why someone needs it…

Exactly.

We get a DAS, we don’t abuse it. Qualifying for a DAS does not by any stretch mean the child can’t or doesn’t wait in any line ever. We don’t DAS every single ride. It’s a balance between meeting the parenting need (that all kids have) of teaching patience and impulse control, and using the accommodation to meet the needs of the disability when necessary.

 

[MaryJaneP]

Doesn't everyone suffer from anxiety at wdw? The guests hoping they can ride their attractions, the CM's hoping their shift is survivable, the bean counters hoping the profits continue rising, and the resort staff hoping the guests have a stay that is successful. The fact that the lines for attractions cause anxiety seems to be be very widespread. If everyone gets a DAS card, does it dilute the value of getting a DAS card.

 

[correcaminos]

I dunno, not caring about cheaters & fakers seems like a base level problem to me.

But, I get what some folks are saying. Not caring is a powerful weapon against injustice.

Not my words or my point. I said I won't waste energy on this while on vacation. Many of us with issues have limited energy to deal with things. This isn't worth making my day more miserable on.

I think reducing what @helenabear shared down to “not caring” is missing quite a lot.

I shared a similar sentiment earlier. Yes, I care that people cheat the system. Am I going to let it interrupt my family’s experience? Nope. Doesn’t mean I won’t advocate - but me getting upset about it in the moment and making assumptions about people i see for a few moments in time max isn’t *accomplishing* anything to address the cheaters. All it does is suck joy from my and my family’s experience. And that’s not worth the energy. I’ll save my energy for actions that have the potential to actually accomplish something.

Exactly!

It might be that people who are able to use it don't care as much because they're not really affected by somebody abusing the system that much unless it becomes kind of ridiculous then it might be something that would concern people. For those of us that don't use it, yes it is annoying to see somebody sneaking in so to speak using the system when they don't really need it, and we know that this does happen. And given that FP is now a paid thing. It is literally stealing.

Actually abuse would affect us more than you think. More people using, more wait once our time is ready, which means less time or even things total I can do. It's really just not worth my energy to waste on.

Honestly I even only replied to this thread because I was both quoted and mentioned. Really I am not finding this discussion with those who don't even use DAS really worth much of my energy. A few here are being rather judgmental and kind of jerky. I appreciate those with legit questions/concerns, but otherwise why post here?

 

[crazy4disney]

Not my words or my point. I said I won't waste energy on this while on vacation. Many of us with issues have limited energy to deal with things. This isn't worth making my day more miserable on.

Exactly!


Actually abuse would affect us more than you think. More people using, more wait once our time is ready, which means less time or even things total I can do. It's really just not worth my energy to waste on.

Honestly I even only replied to this thread because I was both quoted and mentioned. Really I am not finding this discussion with those who don't even use DAS really worth much of my energy. A few here are being rather judgmental and kind of jerky. I appreciate those with legit questions/concerns, but otherwise why post here?

As scary as it sounds people “abusing” the DAS system would actually have less people in lines in theory making a return time for DAS technically lower….not that im advocating for that to happen.

 

[pj4963]

Hi all.
Sorry to ask if already been posted but I couldn’t find anything. Going to WDW on aug 7 for 14 days and wondered about the pre registration for DAS and whether anxiety disorder qualifies for this?

Many thanks

Per HIPP Laws they cannot ask you why you have to have a DAS. If you chose to tell them tha't up to you.

 

[Chi84]

Per HIPP Laws they cannot ask you why you have to have a DAS. If you chose to tell them tha't up to you.

It’s actually the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). HIPAA is the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.

 

[Spash007]

Doesn't everyone suffer from anxiety at wdw? The guests hoping they can ride their attractions, the CM's hoping their shift is survivable, the bean counters hoping the profits continue rising, and the resort staff hoping the guests have a stay that is successful. The fact that the lines for attractions cause anxiety seems to be be very widespread. If everyone gets a DAS card, does it dilute the value of getting a DAS card.

That is not an anxiety disorder though. Everyone does have circumstantial anxiety. Anxiety disorder is when situations like that make it extremely difficult to function. For example, people with anxiety disorder may have panic attacks in line if they are approaching the posted wait time, and still not on the ride. They might start worrying about needing a restroom, making their ADR, missing transportation, etc. And then most people would be able to "shake it off" afterwards, but for people with a diagnosed anxiety disorder, this feelings can stick around for a while and cause their whole day to spiral.

 

[Br0ckford]

That is not an anxiety disorder though. Everyone does have circumstantial anxiety. Anxiety disorder is when situations like that make it extremely difficult to function. For example, people with anxiety disorder may have panic attacks in line if they are approaching the posted wait time, and still not on the ride. They might start worrying about needing a restroom, making their ADR, missing transportation, etc. And then most people would be able to "shake it off" afterwards, but for people with a diagnosed anxiety disorder, this feelings can stick around for a while and cause their whole day to spiral.

This very much. It's hard to understand unless you have had an attack like this. It can put you down for the day.
I will say Disney World is not a good place for a condition like this. I hate taking medication. My wife has become extremely talented in the art of distraction when things start to get out of control. She is the only reason we can go to WDW.

 

[Hawg G]

That is not an anxiety disorder though. Everyone does have circumstantial anxiety. Anxiety disorder is when situations like that make it extremely difficult to function. For example, people with anxiety disorder may have panic attacks in line if they are approaching the posted wait time, and still not on the ride. They might start worrying about needing a restroom, making their ADR, missing transportation, etc. And then most people would be able to "shake it off" afterwards, but for people with a diagnosed anxiety disorder, this feelings can stick around for a while and cause their whole day to spiral.

What always amazes me is how many folks have these anxiety disorders, especially little kids, and the best thing to do is go into dark buildings with rides with surprises, sudden movements, and flashing lights and loud sounds. And all those things actually CALM the anxiety. Just amazing. I tell ya.

 

[Chi84]

What always amazes me is how many folks have these anxiety disorders, especially little kids, and the best thing to do is go into dark buildings with rides with surprises, sudden movements, and flashing lights and loud sounds. And all those things actually CALM the anxiety. Just amazing. I tell ya.

People with anxiety disorders are able to enjoy theme parks with certain accommodations. From your post, I’m not sure you understand the nature of anxiety disorder. Or maybe you think it’s about flashing lights and loud sounds? Or something that people are faking?

These are legitimate questions. I know there are many people who are dismissive of mental health disorders because they just don’t make an effort to understand them. It’s one of the reasons so many people who are struggling still don’t seek help.

 

[Angel Ariel]

What always amazes me is how many folks have these anxiety disorders, especially little kids, and the best thing to do is go into dark buildings with rides with surprises, sudden movements, and flashing lights and loud sounds. And all those things actually CALM the anxiety. Just amazing. I tell ya.

What always amazes me is how people expect others to fit in the same little box, and when they don’t, somehow their conditions or experiences are just dismissed.

 

[Hawg G]

What always amazes me is how people expect others to fit in the same little box, and when they don’t, somehow their conditions or experiences are just dismissed.

Not dismissing. I’m well aware of anxiety issues. And I’m well aware that it’s the easiest, basically no questions asked, way to get a DAS at Disney.

And I also saw the large number of people going into the standby lines at MNSSHP last week there were walkons for almost all rides.

Disney has created a way that anyone can get a DAS, and now they completely hide it electronically.

Genie+ is a broken system. And I absolutely believe DAS is part of it. Frozen Ever After Had a 120 minute wait posted, which was just the inside queue. I’d assume the ratio was 20:1 G+ to Standby.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Not dismissing. I’m well aware of anxiety issues. And I’m well aware that it’s the easiest, basically no questions asked, way to get a DAS at Disney.

And I also saw the large number of people going into the standby lines at MNSSHP last week there were walkons for almost all rides.

Disney has created a way that anyone can get a DAS, and now they completely hide it electronically.

Genie+ is a broken system. And I absolutely believe DAS is part of it. Frozen Ever After Had a 120 minute wait posted, which was just the inside queue. I’d assume the ratio was 20:1 G+ to Standby.

Actually, the post I quoted initially is dismissive. Which both I and another poster pointed out. It may not have been your intent, but when you have two people who have indicated experience with such disorders indicating that the comments are dismissive, perhaps you may want to stop and listen rather than defend and double down.

 

[Hawg G]

Actually, the post I quoted initially is dismissive. Which both I and another poster pointed out. It may not have been your intent, but when you have two people who have indicated experience with such disorders indicating that the comments are dismissive, perhaps you may want to stop and listen rather than defend and double down.

Nope, two people's opinions don't really change mine. Sorry. DAS is massively abused with "anxiety" and "autistic" reasons. THen I see old people struggling through the normal line in manual wheelchairs. I'd love to see the data on reasons folks get them. It took me a bit to figure out why so many people were using the G+ lanes during MNSSHP. ANd why the return times were accurate. That never happened with FP+.

I still believe if someone has such bad autism or anxiety that just standing in line for an hour is going to create a massive health issue, then riding a roller coaster or dark ride can't really be a good thing either.

Sure, there are exceptions. But WOW, they must all visit WDW every year.

 

[Ozzmal]

My son has autism, he loves rides because he’s a sensory seeking kid. Loves the sensation of falling. We’ve waited in lines without the DAS before and it’s miserable. He’s screaming, kicking, full meltdown after about 20 mins. And as stupid as it sounds it doesn’t really bother us because we’re kind of used to it, but I imagine it creates a semi stressful experience for people in line with us lol.

 

[Spash007]

I still believe if someone has such bad autism or anxiety that just standing in line for an hour is going to create a massive health issue, then riding a roller coaster or dark ride can't really be a good thing either.

How exactly do you think anxiety works? And do you realize there are different kinds of it?

Many times stimulation can actually help it, because your mind is busy. It’s when you are not busy that your brain goes into overdrive, and causes issues.

While I am sure some people do abuse the system, you determining that people with true anxiety would not be able to enjoy the ride is dismissive.