DAS with anxiety disorder

[Chi84]

I still believe if someone has such bad autism or anxiety that just standing in line for an hour is going to create a massive health issue, then riding a roller coaster or dark ride can't really be a good thing either.

Facts about medical conditions are not something one “believes.” If you don’t understand autism and anxiety disorder and you have no interest in becoming informed, maybe you should not be posting about them.

 

[Skibum1970]

That is not an anxiety disorder though. Everyone does have circumstantial anxiety. Anxiety disorder is when situations like that make it extremely difficult to function. For example, people with anxiety disorder may have panic attacks in line if they are approaching the posted wait time, and still not on the ride. They might start worrying about needing a restroom, making their ADR, missing transportation, etc. And then most people would be able to "shake it off" afterwards, but for people with a diagnosed anxiety disorder, this feelings can stick around for a while and cause their whole day to spiral.

It's like you know me. Sheesh. Yes, that is definitely circumstantial as, once the ride is over, I'm good to go.

Anxiety is not fun but it is manageable for most. However, I wouldn't want to stop people with these ailments from being able to ride just because I don't want to wait longer. That would be like saying people with physical issues that need walkers/wheelchairs shouldn't be able to ride either.

 

[Patcheslee]

I still believe if someone has such bad autism or anxiety that just standing in line for an hour is going to create a massive health issue, then riding a roller coaster or dark ride can't really be a good thing either.

My anxiety is specifically from feeling trapped or blocked in. While I'm okay in lines for short periods of time with a visible exit or seeing boarding, it builds the longer I am in them and have had to exit lines before. Couple it with bladder issues and an 1 hour wait that goes on longer because wait times are not accurate makes it much worse. Even seeing the hallway at GotG crowded with people gave me anxiety thinking I would have to walk through it. I'm also someone that will watch queue videos prior to visiting to try to get a feel for where exits are, where show room doors are located, etc. Ride wise I feel safer because of having restraints on and the distraction of the ride itself lowers my anxiety.
Work meetings I try to skip if the room only has one entrance/exit, if not I'm sitting right beside it so I can keep an eye on the door and who may or may not come in. That's the reality I've lived with for 4 year now, and I'd love to just stand in a regular line and be bored for 6 hours vs anxiety.

 

[Imhere]

Trolls gotta troll.

I'll give him the benefit.

I believe he's talking about the folks that don't really qualify for DAS, but, are telling the story they have to to get it anyway.

I choose to believe that everyone wants the accommodation for those that need it, not for those that don't.

I could be wrong, I frequently am.

 

[Chi84]

I'll give him the benefit.I believe he's talking about the folks that don't really qualify for DAS, but, are telling the story they have to to get it anyway.

He's saying that people who have anxiety disorder or autism won't benefit from accommodation because if they can't stand in line, they can't ride a roller coaster or a dark ride either. This goes far beyond talking about people who don't qualify and are lying.

I still believe if someone has such bad autism or anxiety that just standing in line for an hour is going to create a massive health issue, then riding a roller coaster or dark ride can't really be a good thing either.

Sure, there are exceptions. But WOW, they must all visit WDW every year.

 

[Hawg G]

He's saying that people who have anxiety disorder or autism won't benefit from accommodation because if they can't stand in line, they can't ride a roller coaster or a dark ride either. This goes far beyond talking about people who don't qualify and are lying.

No, I'm saying there seems to be an ENORMOUS number of people with a very exact type of anxiety or autism who are visiting WDW. I'm sure some are freaked out by feeling trapped standing free in a queue room with multiple well identifies exits, but not freaked out by being strapped in a seat they can't escape and sent in to a dark room.

But I'm going to assume there REALLY aren't many people with that specific issue.

Same with kids who will start screaming after being in line for 20 minites,, but are fine strapped in an airplane or car for hours to get to WDW. And find relief in being strapped into a roller coaster they can't escape.

Do those folks exist? Sure. Are there enough that hundreds of them are going with their families to WDW. EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR? Ummmm, probably not.

 

[sedati]

Even if it is 20% of guests on a given day, that’s actually in line with the % of adults who have disabilities in the US

So, one in five adults. And they're allowed to bring how many with them on a single DAS? And if everyone entitled to DAS used it and brought along four others, what percentage of guests would be utilizing it on a given day?

 

[Chi84]

No, I'm saying there seems to be an ENORMOUS number of people with a very exact type of anxiety or autism who are visiting WDW. I'm sure some are freaked out by feeling trapped standing free in a queue room with multiple well identifies exits, but not freaked out by being strapped in a seat they can't escape and sent in to a dark room.

But I'm going to assume there REALLY aren't many people with that specific issue.

Same with kids who will start screaming after being in line for 20 minites,, but are fine strapped in an airplane or car for hours to get to WDW. And find relief in being strapped into a roller coaster they can't escape.

Do those folks exist? Sure. Are there enough that hundreds of them are going with their families to WDW. EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR? Ummmm, probably not.

How do you know which person in the group is requesting DAS and for what reason? And how do you know a child with autism is "fine" strapped in an airplane or car for hours? Just because accommodation can't be made in every instance, does it follow that no accommodation is needed or should ever be afforded?

 

[Hawg G]

So, one in five adults. And they're allowed to bring how many with them on a single DAS? And if everyone entitled to DAS used it and brought along four others, what percentage of guests would be utilizing it on a given day?

Not to mention that 1 in 5 includes likely a majority of mobility issues that Disney cares not about. It's like there is a very special case autism and anxiety convention at WDW every day of the year.

The key word of your post, of course, is "entitled".

 

[Chi84]

Not to mention that 1 in 5 includes likely a majority of mobility issues that Disney cares not about. It's like there is a very special case autism and anxiety convention at WDW every day of the year.

The key word of your post, of course, is "entitled".

I doubt there are all that many people falsely claiming that they or their children suffer from autism or anxiety disorder.

I’m sure there’s some abuse of DAS - just like any system. But it’s probably nowhere near what you’re imagining. If you truly believe everyone else is cheating the system and unfairly passing you in line, It must be difficult to watch.

 

[Figgy1]

Not to mention that 1 in 5 includes likely a majority of mobility issues that Disney cares not about. It's like there is a very special case autism and anxiety convention at WDW every day of the year.

The key word of your post, of course, is "entitled".

DAS does NOT give people the advantage you think it does. It gives a return time NOT immediate access. You now get to prebook 3 rides but you still have to wait for those times. The advantage is people who need it wait someplace else but there is still waiting involved. and BTW I'd gladly trade DAS for what my ds deals with on a daily basis

 

[Spash007]

Not to mention that 1 in 5 includes likely a majority of mobility issues that Disney cares not about. It's like there is a very special case autism and anxiety convention at WDW every day of the year.

The key word of your post, of course, is "entitled".

Wait, do you think DAS only applies for anxiety and autism? Diabetes, PTSD, incontinence, cancer to name a few others.

And like @Figgy1 said, people using DAS doesn’t make anyone else wait longer. They would still be in front of you in the line, just physically since all DAS does is let you wait the posted time elsewhere.

 

[wdwfan22]

DAS does NOT give people the advantage you think it does. It gives a return time NOT immediate access. You now get to prebook 3 rides but you still have to wait for those times. The advantage is people who need it wait someplace else but there is still waiting involved. and BTW I'd gladly trade DAS for what my ds deals with on a daily basis

The advantage is they are pre-booking and then riding attractions with no wait. So technically they do have an advantage. I have a friend that works Guest Relations, and she can't believe the amount of people that need DAS. The system is being abused but Disney has tried to crack down, but it's still a flawed system.

 

[wdwfan22]

I doubt there are all that many people falsely claiming that they or their children suffer from autism or anxiety disorder.

I’m sure there’s some abuse of DAS - just like any system. But it’s probably nowhere near what you’re imagining. If you truly believe everyone else is cheating the system and unfairly passing you in line, It must be difficult to watch.

You would be surprised. As I mentioned earlier i have a friend who works Guest Relations and the amount of people claiming autism/anxiety for DAS is high. Heck the last time I had to stand in line for Guest Relations at Animal Kingdom over 75% of the line wanted the pass.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

What always amazes me is how many folks have these anxiety disorders, especially little kids, and the best thing to do is go into dark buildings with rides with surprises, sudden movements, and flashing lights and loud sounds. And all those things actually CALM the anxiety. Just amazing. I tell ya.

I’m guessing you’ve never been to the park with an autistic person, my niece has Asperger’s and she absolutely loves amusement parks and rides, lines are difficult for her though.

Trust me, you’re better off with her getting a return time rather than standing in line next to her for 45 minutes while she flaps her hands, rocks, and asks how much longer every 5 seconds (her anxiety release)… it’s enough to give me a nervous breakdown and I’m her uncle and used to it. It’s gotten better as she’s aged and we’re now up to about 20 minutes we just get in the normal line (because that’s her threshold) but beyond that everyone is better off if she’s walking around rather than having a meltdown in line.

I’m sure people abuse it, I’m also sure people think kids like my niece just shouldn’t go, but until you’ve see how difficult these kids normal lives are you’ll never realize how amazing it is to see them having fun like a “normal” kid.

Personally I’d love for doctors paperwork to be necessary, like it is at Disneyland Paris, but until US laws change this system is as good as it’s going to get.

 

[Chi84]

You would be surprised. As I mentioned earlier i have a friend who works Guest Relations and the amount of people claiming autism/anxiety for DAS is high. Heck the last time I had to stand in line for Guest Relations at Animal Kingdom over 75% of the line wanted the pass.

75%? How many people were in the line?

 

[Hawg G]

I doubt there are all that many people falsely claiming that they or their children suffer from autism or anxiety disorder.

I’m sure there’s some abuse of DAS - just like any system. But it’s probably nowhere near what you’re imagining. If you truly believe everyone else is cheating the system and unfairly passing you in line, It must be difficult to watch.

Well, since they had to revamp a system BECAUSE of fraud. Yet have now, perplexingly, created a system that has actual monetary value. HIGH monetary value. Plus has made it pretty hidden from everyone else, so folks don't realize how much fraud is going on, we'll have to disagree on that.

Wait, do you think DAS only applies for anxiety and autism? Diabetes, PTSD, incontinence, cancer to name a few others.

And like @Figgy1 said, people using DAS doesn’t make anyone else wait longer. They would still be in front of you in the line, just physically since all DAS does is let you wait the posted ti

I can’t fathom how diabetes or cancer would qualify. But I know everyone on here who gets it is from autism or anxiety, my wife got it for essentially incontinence.

But, i see you are gaslighting now, saying they aren’t really in front of me. But anyone who knows anything about DAS knows that it is basically free Genie + now, a second G+ if you are buying it too, with access to some ILLs for free, basically. It can be worth hundreds PER DAY for a large group, which folks with DAS always seem to have, for some odd reason.

 

[wdwfan22]

75%? How many people were in the line?

at least 50 i didn't really count. All I wanted to do was a ticket upgrade for my mom and it took me forever to get through the line.

 

[sedati]

And like @Figgy1 said, people using DAS doesn’t make anyone else wait longer. They would still be in front of you in the line, just physically since all DAS does is let you wait the posted time elsewhere.

And they are having no effect elsewhere? The parks have limited capacity and these people have now somehow duplicated themselves- adding their numbers not only to the ride we're waiting for, but now to the crowded walkways, benches, facilities, shops, restaurants, parades, other rides, etc... etc... etc... - literally anything they're doing "elsewhere" adds value to their day while diminishing that of others. This goes beyond reasonable accommodation. Offsets need to be judiciously balanced.

How can one claim waiting (physically) in line to be intolerable while simultaneously placing no value in avoiding it?

 

[Chi84]

at least 50 i didn't really count. All I wanted to do was a ticket upgrade for my mom and it took me forever to get through the line.

How did you know that 37 of the people in front of you were there for a DAS pass?