SirGoofy
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TLM is going to DCA.:wave:
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TLM is going to DCA.:wave:
EpcotServo
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But there's a contradiction! I have right here a 1959 E-Ticket. Including...Submarine Voyage!
Even on the day of it's closing, the Submarine Voyage was considered to an E-Ticket because of it's elaborate and unique experience. Even if you say it got outdated with newer E-Tickets, there's still a problem. You yourself said that Space Mountain is an E-Ticket. But I have evidence that after it's opening in 1977, that the Submarine Voyage is still an E-Ticket! Even in Walt Disney World!
It seems pretty clear with this evidence that the Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage is an E-Ticket, your "facts" of what is and isn't an E-Ticket are clearly faulty!
I submit this to the rest of the posters in this thread, and take my leave!
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
And Im off to watch paint dry...............................
GizmoDuck
Member
Thanks, somebody's gotta keep the hope alive! :lol:
I might be alone, but I have high expectations for the 40th
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Huh. That might be interesting.:lol:
:lol::lol::lol:
No, we say THAT when Disney launches a expensive club offering some D&G's very little, and when it's the middle of a recession/depression.
And how can it not belong in a theme park? It already did.:shrug:
CBOMB
Active Member
I predict they will announce there will be price increases for resort rooms, tickets, food, beverages, and merchandise, for 2010. They will also announce the name of the next promotional campaign slogan for the Disney Parks. I also predict that nobody here, with the exception of jt04, will like it.
Edit: I left out that jt04 will be promoted to the Mom's Panel.
Edit: I left out that jt04 will be promoted to the Mom's Panel.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Had forgotten about that! Very true.
And the rest::ROFLOL::ROFLOL::ROFLOL:
Love the avvie, too.
The Conundrum
New Member
But there's a contradiction! I have right here a 1959 E-Ticket. Including...Submarine Voyage!
Even on the day of it's closing, the Submarine Voyage was considered to an E-Ticket because of it's elaborate and unique experience. Even if you say it got outdated with newer E-Tickets, there's still a problem. You yourself said that Space Mountain is an E-Ticket. But I have evidence that after it's opening in 1977, that the Submarine Voyage is still an E-Ticket! Even in Walt Disney World!
It seems pretty clear with this evidence that the Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage is an E-Ticket, your "facts" of what is and isn't an E-Ticket are clearly faulty!
I submit this to the rest of the posters in this thread, and take my leave!
Read what I said "the NEW Subs ain't an E". The Submarine Voyage was certianly an e-ticket. The "new" Iger version is a neutered waterd down kiddie ride.
vonpluto
Well-Known Member
Latex or oil?:snore:
EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
Which is absolutely false given that it's the same ride, with improved effects and sound, a longer ride time, and even more of a storyline. Anything otherwise is simply, false.
The Conundrum
New Member
How the heck is it the same ride? If its the same ride where is the Sea Serpent, the Atlantis ruins, the polar ice cap, the squid attack, the mermaids and pretty much everything iconic about the original?
When you say longer you are insinuating that they added more trakc or something all it is is that the vehicles move slightly slower.
The storyline is a watered down version of the films story just like the epcot ride
"improved effects and sound?" sound maybe but effects? They took out all the set pieces and replaced them with vidoe screens it looks like someone flooded a best buy full of water and sent a submarine in there. Plus there are enormous chunks of the ride that are just pure darkness where there used to be scenes. Its BS.
EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
A: Have you even been on the ride?
_Scar
Active Member
sponono88
Well-Known Member
ha, seriously. i'd like to know as well
someone with more info could chime in here, but I believe they extended the indoor portions of the ride and added additional caverns. And I don't remember any scenes that are pure darkness.. the lighting/sound effects are worlds ahead of the old sub ride.
I know one thing for sure - the current ride is a whole lot better than the abandoned and filthy lagoon that sat there for so many years. they could've easily scrapped the whole thing and put up a meet-and-greet with some shops on that same space. the fact that they refurbished the entire lagoon and restored the old submarine fleet is incredible.
The Conundrum
New Member
yes twice and ill probably ride it again only because I loved the Sub voyage attraction so much and riding in the subs and seeing the two surviving scenes fills me with nostalgia.
I mean I guess it could be considered an E just because of the sheer expense of getting the attraction open again. But its an incredibly weak E-ticket below Everest and Soarin (barely above TT and M:S)
But anyway getting back to my point there have been no real E rides in the 2000s in America. Japan got Monsters Inc. e-ticket, Winnie the Pooh E-ticket, TDS which is filled to the brem with E's but nope not good ol'US of A. That changes in Disneyland at least next decade with:
Star Tours 2
The Little Mermaid
Radiator Springs
These rides as far as I know, are being designed correctly, recieving appropriate funding, and will be worlds better than anything built in WDW since DAK opened and will be in the same league with the classics from the Walt Era and the Frank Wells era.
And watch eventually all that junk from the 2000s will either be removed, replaced or changed out. There are already plans to change Soarin's ride film (hopefully to something that is more than random video footage spliced together to music), rumors of a Imagination/test track/ellen redo, etc. Unfortunatly Everest will probably remain "as is" even though it was planned to be sooo much more.
EpcotServo
Well-Known Member
Then I'll answer, if that is truly the case.
How the heck is it the same ride?
It's the same ride system, the same ride layout, and the same premise. (Research Submarine encountering vignettes of undersea life) Only thing added was a story involving undersea characters passing through these same scenes. The scenes are different yes, but there are countless that are the same, if not expanded upon. Such as the Graveyard of Lost Ships, The Reefs, The Dark Abyss, and the Undersea Volcano. Only Atlantis and the polar ice caps are gone. (And at least they pay tribute to Atlantis in one of the large opening scenes.)
When you say longer you are insinuating that they added more trakc or something all it is is that the vehicles move slightly slower.
No, I state longer because the ride time is longer, by at least two minutes thanks to longer show scenes.
The storyline is a watered down version of the films story just like the epcot ride
I'll give you that, but it still doesn't interfere with the base ride it's always been. (Passing through undersea vignettes along the lines of Jungle Cruise, Haunted Mansion, and Pirates)
If anything it's perfect because while getting you involved in the characters plights, while not interfering or getting too involved with the experience of passing through different scenes in Liquid Space.
"improved effects and sound?" sound maybe but effects? They took out all the set pieces and replaced them with vidoe screens it looks like someone flooded a best buy full of water and sent a submarine in there. Plus there are enormous chunks of the ride that are just pure darkness where there used to be scenes. Its BS.
Yeah right. Being intimately familiar with every rock and fish in both of the Submarine Voyage attractions (Being my favorite type of Disney Attraction) and scrutinizing every detail on each of my seven rides on it, I say with no hesitation that the show sets are infinitely superior in the new attraction. The crafting involved in the many layers of sets that are integrated with glass and scrim layers. (There are no "Video Screens" only layers in the set which are transparent and being projected on.) The blending of Wet and Dry scenes are amazing, and a lot more effects than the previous incarnation, which featured practically no effects other than lighting and air.
Was the old Submarine Voyages better?
I think so too.
Is the new one "BS"?
Heck no. Apart from being a darn good show, it's also a massive achievement to save this ride (An achievement of which I spent most of my life wishing to come true.) and will carry out the spirit of adventures through liquid space for generations to come thankfully.
JCtheparrothead
Well-Known Member
I forsee the announcement of a new section at AK and a new counrty at EPCOT.