There is a sizeable group who will hold to “I’ll believe it when I see it” and spend the next 2-5 years expressing many angles of doubt that whatever is being built is not going to be a major disappointment.I have a prediction. There will be much for all parks, majorly wdw, but people still will not be happy.
At this point idc about sacredness as long as it’s good, ive just been kinda worn down by all that. Im happy bc my bears and figment are both likely safe for now, so idc atp. I’ve accepted that ip jamming and attraction changing stuff for the worse (though I am not one of those “wokeism is evil durr” people and I do not claim or identify with them in any way) is gonna happen, it is what it is. If the new attractions are cool and good at least, I’ll be happy. I’ve given up on fighting it, but I commend and encourage those who have not yet given up the fight.There is a sizeable group who will hold to “I’ll believe it when I see it” and spend the next 2-5 years expressing many angles of doubt that whatever is being built is not going to be a major disappointment.
I’m not speaking to the reasons why or why not, simply preparing for theslogjourney.
If someone is in that group, it makes sense that they’ll need firsthand proof.
Fast forward 5+ years: “I guess that ride was fun, but the signage fonts are all wrong.”
Disneyland:
- Avatar: The Way of Water expansion (I'd give this a 70% chance of being announced)
Joe Rhode is as well and while he definitely deserves it for all his long years of service the link between himself and Cameron can’t be ignored.James Cameron is being given a legend award for a reason. They'll have him 3-peat the stage. He wasn't even physically at last D23, when he showed off Avatar 2.
My expectation is we're LIKELY gonna hear about Tropical Americas, Beyond Big Thunder, and the new nighttime parade. And then we're gonna have some surprises (like say new monorails or hotels).Now as it pertains to WDW, my expectation is Tropical Americas and two other attractions (Coco, ?Moana). Ignoring the projects already under works and one solid 2025 entertainment announcement. This is the good enough measure. Good enough to turn things back around from their current investment glut, good enough to have a solid D23.
I really wonder tho what Josh meant by this parks panel will be like anything they've ever done. I hope that's in regards to the announcements. If so, in that case, it can't just be Tropical Americas and Coco.On the flip side, if we leave D23 with only Tropical Americas and Coco... that's disappointing. It isn't enough. In fact, it's kind of less than they promised in 2022. Anything not announced, that has been heavily rumoured (looking at Moana, Lion King for example - or even a night parade), is basically a cancelled project by precedent.
I really wonder tho what Josh meant by this parks panel will be like anything they've ever done. I hope that's in regards to the announcements. If so, in that case, it can't just be Tropical Americas and Coco.
I say for Josh to live up to those words, there needs to be all of BBT announced, a new EPCOT pavilion with the Spaceship Earth refurb and Mary Poppins attraction back on the table and a big Figment announcement, DHS gets a major expansion, Animal Kingdom Tropical Americas details, and Disneyland Forward details along with a New Tomorrowland announcement. And then leave room for many more surprises along the way.
And maybe blue sky for a 5th gate.
I’m honored but I have to say I have no inside info. Just a guess based off what else we think they have planned.I thought now would be a good time to resurrect this thread. We are now around 37 days away from D23. What can we realistically expect to be announced at the parks panel? To recap I have seen the following projects be talked about I’ll put my personal chances next to the projects as I list them off.
Magic Kingdom:
Epcot:
- Beyond Big Thunder (I'd give this an 80% chance)
- Moana Adventureland (I'd give this a 65-70% chance) @EricsBiscuit stated in another thread this doesn't seem likely to be announced.
- Nighttime parade at Magic Kingdom (quick aside: personally while parades are cool I don't think they are the end all be all of what we need right now. WE NEED NEW INVESTMENT)
- Big Thunder Mountain refurb (I'd give this an 85% chance)
Hollywood Studios:
- Test Track (I'd give this a 100% chance)
- Soarin’ ending change (I’d give this a 55% chance)
Animal Kingdom:
- Animation Courtyard re-do (I'd give this a 30% chance)
- Rock N Roll retheme (I'd give this a 50% chance)
Disneyland:
- Tropical Americas (I'd give this a 100% chance)
- Lion King land in Paris with the possibility of the flume being cloned in animal kingdom. (I'd give this a 90% chance of being announced for Paris and a 45% of it being announced for Animal Kingdom)
- Zootopia (Tree of Life) (I'd give this a 55% chance)
Not very likely but it's been talked about:
- Avatar: The Way of Water expansion (I'd give this a 70% chance of being announced)
- Avengers E-Ticket (I'd give this a 75% chance)
What does everyone else think? Really hoping this is going to be the blockbuster D23 we all waited four years to see. As evident by my percentages I’m trying to keep my expectations in check. I’m sure they will also throw some curveballs no one expects as well.
- Figment (I want to hold out a little hope on this one so 30% chance)
- Spaceship Earth (40% chance)
- Something Inside Out (Probably too early)
Sorry if I didn't clarify but I agree. I mean that's the only way ALL the fandom will be happy lolDial it way, way back, (and shove that 5th gate into the bin) or you will be disappointed. That's not unlike anything they've ever done, that's extremely beyond anything they've ever done.
We are also getting announcements for Paris, probably Shanghai, maybe HK Marvel attraction, possibly a new cruise ship class. The unlike everything we've ever done doesn't just mean North America.
This is the bar, essentially, for his comment to be valid.
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For DHS, maybe they could port over the TDS Pan/Avengers E ticket ride system with a totally different IP attached to it? I am hoping the DHS expansion is something themed to Disney Animation. Maybe it could be WDW's take on Avengers Campus since Universal won't give up the Marvel rights.Whatever expansion they do, it would make sense for the IP to match the popularity that Toy Story and Star Wars bring. The only ones I can think of are Marvel (that can't happen tho), Villians (will probably be saved for MK BBT), Princesses (fits better in MK), Cars, and Mickey and Friends. Those all came from stats alone determining most popular Disney franchises.
I know Zootopia has been talked about too, but honestly, that was just more speculation than rumor. Besides, that would be our third trackless ride in a park. Yeah, I know I've criticized people for saying Radiator Springs Racers wouldn't work anywhere in Disney World because of Test Track's existence, but I think 3 trackless rides in one park is bad for the sake of amount of breakdowns that occur daily in each of those rides. Also DHS needs more D tickets and below. More outdoor attractions would be nice, too. Slinky Dog Dash is very refreshing in that park.
To give a quick update:Decided to make a list of some of the current rumors out there and rate them on my view of the likelihood of a D23 announcement on a scale of 1-5. These can and will change anytime before the panel.
1 - Don’t count on it
2 - Best we’ll get is blue sky art
3 - Wild card
4 - Currently confident but could be dropped anytime prior
5 - Near certainty
Animal Kingdom:
Tropics details (5/5)
Lion King boat ride (3/5)
Night time show (3/5)
Pandora expansion (1/5)
Hollywood Studios:
Launch Bay expansion (2/5)
But specifically for:
Cars - (1/5)
Zootopia - (1/5)
Epcot:
Figment redo (2/5)
Spaceship Earth renovation (3/5)
Test Track details (5/5)
Magic Kingdom
Moana flume (4/5)
BBT phase one (RSR or Coco) (4/5)
Big Thunder renovation (5/5)
Villains land/BBT phase 2 (2/5)
Night time parade (4/5)
That is probably what is going to happen.I have a prediction. There will be much for all parks, majorly wdw, but people still will not be happy.
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