Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

[UNCgolf]

Has any actual evidence come out that Monsters is replacing Muppets or are people just speculating?

One of the pieces of concept art seemingly has it placed it in the Muppets area.

The other doesn't, though, and the physical model seems to line up with the latter, so I don't think it's going to replace anything.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Has any actual evidence come out that Monsters is replacing Muppets or are people just speculating?

Spec so far.

 

[PREMiERdrum]

Has any actual evidence come out that Monsters is replacing Muppets or are people just speculating?

The background in one of the two pieces of art is clearly SOA / Grand Ave-ish. However, it seems much more likely that Monsters is heading to AC, and that the "neighborhood block" aesthetic is being extended as the creative moves away from huge "soundstages".

 

[SirLink]

Disney has given them 2 movies (one of which flopped), several series (nearly all of which were quickly cancelled), and a presence on Youtube. And the muppets can't sell merchandise (which is why their dedicated store in DHS was taken over by Mickey and friends). What exactly could Disney do with them that hasn't been done already? What is there to "figure out"?

I mean, if you like them, fine, but I'd much rather Iger got rid of the puppet theater rather than get rid of RoA and the riverboat. Two attractions, BTW, that are NOT based on IP...

If there is no parks merchandise to get outside of Mickey's of Glendale then how can people buy it. Disney need to make The Muppets less sweet. More like The Simpsons/Futurama quite frankly.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Has any actual evidence come out that Monsters is replacing Muppets or are people just speculating?

Speculation, it’s amazing that with all the land they have at WDW they’ve severely limited the land available to HS, world drive prevents any expansion to the east, Galaxies edge prevents any expansion to the south, the entrance prevents and expansion to the north… the only real options are the animation courtyard, the muppets/Indy area, or west into the parking lot.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I mean that's Launch Bay right? Like very clearly?

So we lose Disney Junior and Launch Bay and maybe Mermaid.

 

[SirLink]

Also one attraction does not a land make, if their are no other attractions associated with "Monstropolis" does it need to be a "land"?

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Disney has given them 2 movies (one of which flopped), several series (nearly all of which were quickly cancelled), and a presence on Youtube. And the muppets can't sell merchandise (which is why their dedicated store in DHS was taken over by Mickey and friends). What exactly could Disney do with them that hasn't been done already? What is there to "figure out"?

I mean, if you like them, fine, but I'd much rather Iger got rid of the puppet theater rather than get rid of RoA and the riverboat. Two attractions, BTW, that are NOT based on IP...

If i'm remembering correctly, you hate the Muppets on an innate level. Even back when Jim Henson was running it. As Frank Oz stated in that interview, Disney's Muppets are nothing like they once were. I enjoy the classic Muppets and even I admit that. It's a common thing with franchises that Disney takes ownership of, many Star Wars fans can relate with.

The Muppets were extremely popular for quite a few decades, even throughout the 90s for a time after Jim Henson passed they still had a number of popular and successful bits of media such as their versions of Treasure Island and Christmas Carol. I also find that their old material holds up amazingly well, much of which I was not raised on and only first saw as an adult. I think if you can see past your intrinsic hatred of the IP, you could also see that Disney's attempts with the IP have been less well liked even from the same audiences than they were under Jim Henson and his initial successors that handled it in the several years following his death. It is not the same now.

 

[Rteetz]

Also one attraction does not a land make, if their are no other attractions associated with "Monstropolis" does it need to be a "land"?

I have seen it described as a mini land rather.

 

[BrianLo]

The door coaster model is weird because it’s not actually a suspended coaster…

 

[BrianLo]

Definitely the coolest imagineering pavilion I’ve ever been to. It might be a Sunday morning phenomenon but the entire thing was crawling with recognizable imagineers standing around their projects. Michel from HKDL Arrendelle, Chris Beatty, Bruce Vaughn, Michael (something who I recognize but don’t know what he was on), the lady from the DCA Pandora project. I think Josh was just through. Etc.

 

[mickEblu]

Definitely the coolest imagineering pavilion I’ve ever been to. It might be a Sunday morning phenomenon but the entire thing was crawling with recognizable imagineers standing around their projects. Michel from HKDL Arrendelle, Chris Beatty, Bruce Vaughn, Michael (something who I recognize but don’t know what he was on), the lady from the DCA Pandora project. I think Josh was just through. Etc.

Where was the TBA team? Hiding?

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

If i'm remembering correctly, you hate the Muppets on an innate level. Even back when Jim Henson was running it. As Frank Oz stated in that interview, Disney's Muppets are nothing like they once were. I enjoy the classic Muppets and even I admit that. It's a common thing with franchises that Disney takes ownership of, many Star Wars fans can relate with.

The Muppets were extremely popular for quite a few decades, even throughout the 90s for a time after Jim Henson passed they still had a number of popular and successful bits of media such as their versions of Treasure Island and Christmas Carol. I also find that their old material holds up amazingly well, much of which I was not raised on and only first saw as an adult. I think if you can see past your intrinsic hatred of the IP, you could also see that Disney's attempts with the IP have been less well liked even from the same audiences than they were under Jim Henson and his initial successors that handled it in the several years following his death. It is not the same now.

Interesting fact about Muppetvision. While Jim Directed the 3D film. It was Frank Oz who Directed the pre-show segment and Kermit originally was to be in it..However, as we know what happened with Jim they redid the pre-show without him..So when you hear Fozzie ask Where's Kermit to Scooter.....It Hits you hard realizing Jim had passed 2 weeks after the filming of the pre-show you currently watch..

 

[Jedi14]

Where was the TBA team? Hiding?

I just saw them at the Tiana panel.

 

[BrianLo]

Where was the TBA team? Hiding?

Overtop of the Imagination Pavilion model! Looks like they were carrying a Strange World / Lightyear fan fic portfolio.

Jokes aside, I did see Charita Carter in a panel. I do personally like MMRR and can’t offer my own commentary on TBA yet.

 

[wdwmagic]

I mean that's Launch Bay right? Like very clearly?

Not Galactic Starcruiser?!? I kid

 

[mikejs78]

Well EPCOT is going to need something. Despite all the recent money spent, it still feels very short, which will become even more apparent when these new additions open at the other 3 parks.

Agreed. I don't think it even needs a new build - just redo imagination or seas into more compelling attractions.

 

[mickEblu]

I just saw them at the Tiana panel.

How'd that go?

 

[TheIceBaron]

I think they would want Muppets courtyard for a future Star Wars expansion, so I think Launch Bay is where Metropolis will be. Of course Star Wars is having problems as a franchise like muppets (but not as dire yet).

 

[wdwmagic]

Agreed. I don't think it even needs a new build - just redo imagination or seas into more compelling attractions.

EPCOT is a fairly easy problem to solve quite easily. Redo Imagination and Pixar Short Film, and make it amazing. Build the Play pavilion, and bring something great to the UK.