Rumor D23 2024 WDW Rumors, Predictions & Discussion

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Plus the Fire Mountain plot isn’t big enough for a whole land. It’s just enough space for a major E ticket and a pathway to it.

Land is relative…they’ve been shrinking the goal posts on those as they have on quality in dvc…

And e ticket means nothing when we use them as a label, and not a measurement of achievement. We have many recent examples there.

 

[fgmnt]

Potentially all of Dino land which is 2 rides, small animal trail, restaurant, gift shop, and play area.

I think it would be really weird to not run a really long tail on Dinosaur operations, potentially through next year. If they are targeting a May 2027 opening, should be able to run it through 1/5/26 imo.

I genuinely think it's down to the wire as to where the DHS and Cars attractions are going. Like, they might still not have that locked in.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Jim Hill's been discussing about the Monsters Inc Door Coaster for years now. Can't wait to hear his reaction in the next episode of Disney Dish.

This feels like predicting a Lion King ride since 1994 and crowing because they've just announced one in 2024.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ok first of all I’m so annoyed I was going to make a joke about so can we start up a “Monsters Dood coaster rumour against 20 minutes post the show, or should I wait until tomorrow” when I thought the cars rumour was just endless recycling. It was facetious, didn’t actually expect them to pull that one out.

My minor gloating is that I had the cruise ships really nailed and as the president of the Carousel is NOT Coco club, I was vindicated on that one.

I’m not mad about cars. Inevitably my fear with these projects are they aren’t developed for the parks they occupy. WDW has an all too recent unfortunate history with this. Yes sometimes something like Ratatouille just kind of works out. As an ‘every parks fan’ I am just tickled how there was absolutely no clones in that whole presentation!

I think Coco and Moana for Magic Kingdom are dead. In so far as I really don’t think those are coming, it’s actually just way too much for Magic Kingdom. Especially since Villains land seems to be a 2029 project.

DCA, as mentioned, is just fire. No complaints there. I really would have liked a bit more substance to the 70th, but whatever. I am not surprised DLForward failed to feature as clearly Josh took the we are focusing on things that are solid only. I do feel bad for the coaster crew at DCA as I’m sure it was painful to watch both Spiderman and the Door Coaster, which I know they are pining for.

I’m still not sure what the temperature is here, but it seems not hugely one of disappointment?

The show was very good in person. Padded to high heavens. But extremely self aware. I told everyone Josh (unlike Chapek) is not stupid. He knows and references basically every forum complaint with a wink and a nod. Including the just tune in to the parks blog if you don’t want to see the musical numbers wink and nod.

Deadpool segment was hilarious. Talent was impressive. They really did ‘up’ the whole presentation into quite the spectacle. Not sure how much you all loved it from home per say, but it was delightful in person and they really used that mid floor stage so my seats were a lot better than they felt last night for the price.

Not to be the Deborah…

But those could be BS and they just decided to spin them differently to avoid the bad chapek juju?

This is still a financial ship leaking oil and their lords want them to MAKE money…not spend it. And it’s not going well.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Land is relative…they’ve been shrinking the goal posts on those as they have on quality in dvc…

And e ticket means nothing when we use them as a label, and not a measurement of achievement. We have many recent examples there.

Either way, I don’t see a whole land going behind Adventureland. It makes much more sense for Villains to be Beyond Big Thunder and adjacent to Fantasyland and the Haunted Mansion.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Jim Hill's been discussing about the Monsters Inc Door Coaster for years now. Can't wait to hear his reaction in the next episode of Disney Dish.

He’s always been a Buffon that just talks. Basically screamscape

This feels like predicting a Lion King ride since 1994 and crowing because they've just announced one in 2024.

I have no opinion on Jim hill

 

[wutisgood]

Yes, all the talk of expanding capacity at WDW seems odd in light of the announcements tonight. It seems the Monster's Inc. coaster will replace at least one existing attraction (if not two) and Tropical Americas does involve one major new ride, but is also a makeover of an existing land. That leaves Cars in Frontierland, but even that looks like it will be one major attraction and perhaps some kind of flat ride that may also end up taking a few existing attractions out of action.

DCA is pretty much all growth, and in some big ways.

I am not surprised at all. Disney is limited on space in Anaheim. They need to use any availible space for ride expansions and have a significant incentive to try to get DCA up in capacity to even out attendance from disneyland which has way more attractions. New rides expand the amount of tickets disney can sell per day in Anaheim by upping the max capacity.

The economics just make DL Resort a much better experience from my perspective if you just want to get on the most attractions in a day. In disney world physical space is what limits max attendance mostly and not the number of attractions. The incentive is much more geared twords pumping the number of guests higher on the physical capacity so that more people buy lighning lane and other premium access.

 

[Captain Neo]

It’s funny the Monsters Inc door coaster for DHS was first reported here (and by Jim Hill) back in 2007. The coco boat ride was talked about here back in 17/18 too if I remember right.

I’ve been reading about a Villians Land for MK since 1999 on sites like Screamscape

It’s surreal that these projects are actually happening

What’s next Fire Mountain and Beastly Kingdom?

 

[HMF]

What's wrong with Villains Land? That idea has been thought off decades now?

I will concede Villains Land is a good thing but everything else has been a disaster.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Either way, I don’t see a whole land going behind Adventureland. It makes much more sense for Villains to be Beyond Big Thunder and adjacent to Fantasyland and the Haunted Mansion.

Correct

A cars ride makes no sense in magic kingdom

Especially if you’re gonna load more Pixar in mgm

 

[brb1006]

So what about the two "Hidden Doors" located at the Disney Parks Pavilion that won't open until after the presentation?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It’s funny the Monsters Inc door coaster for DHS was first reported here (and by Jim Hill) back in 2007. The coco boat ride was talked about here back in 17/18 too if I remember right.

I’ve been reading about a Villians Land for MK since 1999 on sites like Screamscape

It’s surreal that these projects are actually happening

What’s next Fire Mountain and Beastly Kingdom?

The door coaster predates that…it was talked about on the Disney intraweb no later than 2003-2004…

Ironically where midway mania is now

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

If the building exists and the people are to scale -monsters inc. would be taking over rock n roller coaster. But those are 2 major ifs from concept art.

Didn’t Josh say something about laugh floor? Could laugh floor move into racing academy and then “scare floor” is in the rock n roller building?

 

[Epcot82Guy]

Digesting this all a bit... my overall reaction is more confusion than anything. I'm not against a good number of the announcements. But several (like Cars) leaves me just wondering "why"... 50% of this seems like legitimately good additions, especially if the stories/themes are well done. But, there were several odd things - and some notable missing elements.

We'll also have to see what actually gets off the ground in the coming years.

I will say, I walked away much more excited from the Epic Universe model at CityWalk than I did from this. Noting somet of the things look like they could be legitimately great if done properly.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I will concede Villains Land is a good thing but everything else has been a disaster.

I think that’s harsh…

…and remember who you’re talking to here

 

[MagicHappens1971]

If the building exists and the people are to scale -monsters inc. would be taking over rock n roller coaster. But those are 2 major ifs from concept art.

I highly doubt this.

Didn’t Josh say something about laugh floor? Could laugh floor move into racing academy and then “scare floor” is in the rock n roller building?

He said “it’s laughter they’re after”, which is the Laugh Floors like thing but I could see them moving it. I’m skeptical about that and highly doubt that they’re touching RnRC

 

[AdventureHasAName]

A cars ride makes no sense in magic kingdom

Especially if you’re gonna load more Pixar in mgm

There's two places it would have made sense ...

1. Tomorrowland Race Track - just re-theme the car shells, and

2. Test Track

 

[BrianLo]

Buried at the end of the presentation, but Josh did mention this is all within five years as the timeframe. Not sure if you guys heard that in the streams.

Discluding the new vessels. Which by the way are earlier and more aggressive than I figured. DCL is all in.

 

[Mike S]

Correct

A cars ride makes no sense in magic kingdom

Especially if you’re gonna load more Pixar in mgm

The Encanto/Indiana Jones land could work perfectly Beyond Big Thunder instead of Cars. Then instead of Cars in MK, AK gets a new Avatar ride and (2D animated) Lion King.

 

[duncedoof]

I think Coco and Moana for Magic Kingdom are dead. In so far as I really don’t think those are coming, it’s actually just way too much for Magic Kingdom. Especially since Villains land seems to be a 2029 project.

I can't see them not doing anything with Moana. It's a hot IP and they're loving boat rides. It has to be something for the next D23.