Creepy New Survey Question....

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Why do people find it worrying? Annoying sure.. All they're gonna do is use it to push a load more advertising crap and use it for sales. You'll be nothing but a statistic. That's business. Lame, but don't be worried about it.

I simply do not accept a justification for that as "its just business."

Long-time readers of my crap know that I simply don't accept that rational as a lack of ethical behavior by businesses.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Believe me when I say this... I am not a follower of such things, but, has anyone ever seen Disney identify themselves as "Walt Disney Parks and Resorts"? Just saying!
 

seabreezept813

Well-Known Member
While in many ways it has become harder to function in society and protect personal information, I'm surprised how many people defend companies tracking guests. When I had to file for my husband's green card, our government "lost" our documents twice--birth certs, marriage certs, etc. Not only did it cost us $$ to keep resending info, I could never get a straight answer as to who might "find" our documents. So in short, I think there is a level of creep here.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
While in many ways it has become harder to function in society and protect personal information, I'm surprised how many people defend companies tracking guests. When I had to file for my husband's green card, our government "lost" our documents twice--birth certs, marriage certs, etc. Not only did it cost us $$ to keep resending info, I could never get a straight answer as to who might "find" our documents. So in short, I think there is a level of creep here.
How is that in any way related to Disney? How else do you think Disney knows when to send surveys?
 

seabreezept813

Well-Known Member
How is that in any way related to Disney? How else do you think Disney knows when to send surveys?

I believe the concern in this thread is about protecting your privacy in light of Disney's technology (surveys, MM+, etc). I was simply trying to express that an invasion of privacy is concerning in a world where it is really challenging to protect privacy because of the many ways that companies, govt, etc access information (and potentially misuse it).
 

indyumd

Well-Known Member
I don't use those either. If store want my information, they can pay me for it. If data is a commodity, we should be fairly compensated for it, no?

They'd argue they are compensating you with discounted prices for using the loyalty card.

Also, It's going to be incredibly difficult for you to avoid this moving forward. The consumer expectation is that all businesses will know and provide exactly what the consumer wants. From Facebook feeds to hotel room preferences to grocery coupons, businesses will be expected to deliver customized experiences to every customer.
 

rob0519

Well-Known Member
As Spotted on twitter by an acquaintance.....

For anyone who wasn't thinking that the mouse isn't keeping track of you? What exactly did you think the magicband and the MDX account was doing?

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It depends on what they're doing with the information. Let's say you had a really bad experience and flame them in the survey results. When they pull up your history for a new reservation, you could get flagged as a disgruntled guest and be given minimal assistance. Conversely , if you constantly give them high marks and praise you could conceivably get a better room assignment or something of the like.
 

IMFearless

Well-Known Member
I don't find it acceptable for companies to track those sort of information on me. Very big brother-ish.

You would hate the UK then!

We have just had a law passed to ensure that telephone companies store every subscriber's internet History for 18 months and makes it available to any government organisation requesting access.

In my case they'll be able to see how much time I spend on the forums!
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Does anyone know the reach of the long range scanners? Would they know I left Disney property or does it only show that I'm within range of a certain reader? I always pay cash. I only use the band for entrance to the parks and room and for fastpasses. It might do them good to know many of us leave property for extended times now. Of course they wouldn't know we now spend days at uni. But, they would know we're leaving for longer and more often than even a year ago. I don't believe it's this sophisticated, yet.
I don't have a problem with it right now, but if I start feeling they are being too invasive, I'll simply slide a RFID blocking sleeve onto my band. The ones made for passports fit the bands.

The bands have a couple different tags in them, but one is a high frequency powered tag which could reach up 100 meters. In theory with enough readers they could track you exact position as you move about the park. Here is a project that was experimenting with this at tech conferences using off the shelf hardware as far back at 2006. I would doubt they are actually tracking at this level of detail, but the technology is capable of it if they wanted to.
 

G00fyDad

Well-Known Member
My question was in regards to all the claims of the data collection being used to enhance our experience and increase efficiency. I have yet to see either, unless up charge events and themed pastries are the result of a billion dollar tracking system. I dont care if they track me, but I wont sit idly by while being told by some pixie duster that its all to enhance my trip.

I never said it does enhance the experience. My point is people need to stop getting their underwear in a bunch because Disney knew they went to Mousegears twice in a day.
 

G00fyDad

Well-Known Member
This isn't creepy at all. While we're at it, let's burn our cell phones, our gps devices, our ezpass car toll payers, our computers, our televisions.... You're being tracked everyday. Go off the grid if you have a problem. Don't go to Disney. Don't go anywhere or use any sort of technology. Go away.
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wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
I never said it does enhance the experience. My point is people need to stop getting their underwear in a bunch because Disney knew they went to Mousegears twice in a day.
It goes way beyond that and you know it. As @PhotoDave219 stated, personal info and data are a commodity. If they want it, fine, but not at the expense of rising prices and cutbacks. They can compensate us with better service and prices, not the opposite.
 

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