Covid Vaccine Updates and General Discussion About Vaccines

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

4 out of 5 immediate family members got their first Pfizer within the last 3 weeks. My sister-in-law (who is a bit of a hypochondriac anyway) got a horrendous reaction within hours of the shot - very bad headache, vomiting for almost 12 hours. By the next morning she was fine. She says she is terrified of getting the 2nd vaccine. Meanwhile, hubby just got 2nd Pfizer this morning. Said arm ached immediately. Hoping that is the only side effect he gets.

I'd be a bit nervous about the second one as well if I had that reaction after the first.
When I vomit no joke I'm afraid I'm going to die right then and there.
I can never catch my breath between heaves and usually pass out.

 

[bdearl41]

I would think those people would also be vaccinated so would not be fearful anymore?
I think once we have herd immunity and once its approved for kids there shouldn't be much to fear.

I hope you’re right but some people are terrified

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

I hope you’re right but some people are terrified

If health officials say life can go back to normal and some people are too scared to do so then they can wait until they feel better about the situation.
I don't think we will see those people shaming others. Its not like a year ago when people were like to heck with you I'm going to a pool party with 1,000 of my closest friends when health officials were begging people not to.

 

[GoofGoof]

4 out of 5 immediate family members got their first Pfizer within the last 3 weeks. My sister-in-law (who is a bit of a hypochondriac anyway) got a horrendous reaction within hours of the shot - very bad headache, vomiting for almost 12 hours. By the next morning she was fine. She says she is terrified of getting the 2nd vaccine. Meanwhile, hubby just got 2nd Pfizer this morning. Said arm ached immediately. Hoping that is the only side effect he gets.

I’m 24 hours after my first shot of Moderna and so far all I have is a slightly sore arm which I may not have noticed in normal times but I knew to look for it. I am assuming shot 2 will be worse. My boss had a pretty bad reaction to shot 1 and it lasted several days. He looked bad. But he had nothing but a sore arm for shot 2. So there‘s hope for your sister in law. No guarantees, but I don’t know anyone who had it bad for both shots either one or the other and a handful who got off with no real reaction to either.

 

[DisneyFan32]

If health officials say life can go back to normal and some people are too scared to do so then they can wait until they feel better about the situation.
I don't think we will see those people shaming others. Its not like a year ago when people were like to heck with you I'm going to a pool party with 1,000 of my closest friends when health officials were begging people not to.

What about booster shots by winter 2021-2022, will be another winter surge or not?

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

What about booster shots by winter 2021-2022, will be another winter surge or not?

Please stop asking me and others the same questions over and over that we cannot answer because we are not infectious disease experts but rather just random Disney fans sharing our hopes and opinions of the future.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Happy to report the only side affect from my first Pfizer shot yesterday was a slightly sore arm today, not bad enough to keep me off the driving range though.

 

[DeletedAccount55555]

What about booster shots by winter 2021-2022, will be another winter surge or not?

As of right now, that seems unlikely.

 

[JoeCamel]

4 out of 5 immediate family members got their first Pfizer within the last 3 weeks. My sister-in-law (who is a bit of a hypochondriac anyway) got a horrendous reaction within hours of the shot - very bad headache, vomiting for almost 12 hours. By the next morning she was fine. She says she is terrified of getting the 2nd vaccine. Meanwhile, hubby just got 2nd Pfizer this morning. Said arm ached immediately. Hoping that is the only side effect he gets.

If she had that much of a reaction to the 1st maybe she isn't such a hypochondriac? Might be she really does have different reactions to what is normally benign for the GP?

 

[pixie225]

If she had that much of a reaction to the 1st maybe she isn't such a hypochondriac? Might be she really does have different reactions to what is normally benign for the GP?

I wouldn't doubt anything with her, except for the fact she takes to her bed for days at the slightest - and I mean slightest- sign of any illness/cold/etc. Her husband calls her "911" - lol.
Good news for hubby, who got 2nd Pfizer yesterday - still no side effects except sore arm. They are handing out papers listing side effects at Aqueduct (and probably elsewhere also). Verbally told him he could "feel" something 1-3 days after shot. Take Tylenol if so. And also told him - which I found VERY interesting - women seem to get more side effects than men. I just did a google search, and sure enough, several studies have shown this. Example: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...-19-vaccine-side-effects-than-men/ar-BB1ex780

 

[correcaminos]

Meanwhile, we are apparently sitting on tens of millions of AZ shots that we don’t want or need. They really should be sent to Europe or S. America. I’m sure if we ever approve the AZ shot, they can send our 100m doses then for a potential booster campaign. But we shouldn’t be holding onto doses we have no intention of using in this vaccination campaign when dozens of countries are using that vaccine and need more.

I'm not sure Europe wants them at this time. More than a few countries have a hold on using them due to clotting issues.

Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 Vaccine on Hold in Some Countries

Rollouts of the shot have ground to a halt following reports of blood clots, but health authorities say that these fears are unfounded and vaccination programs should continue.

www.the-scientist.com

I don't know the hold up there. AZ's review process in the U.S. could be the hold up. The U.S. still has to make a final determination whether to approve AZ. If they don't get the approval, AZ can shop it elsewhere. If they get the approval, then those doses belong to the U.S. and the administration can decide what to do with them.

Can you imagine the flak that Biden would get if he just told AZ to give away all those doses that could have gotten approval that was already paid for by the U.S.? Let the opposition party be the first to encourage setting those doses free so there's no political damage for doing so.

They botched trial dosage amounts and it wasn't as clear on results. Oxford/AZ has a trial going on here so they want those results. I received a call in Nov or Dec asking to join so it's much further back (vs Pfizer-BioNTech who called in July). Given the really bad press with countries stopping due to blood clots and SA for efficacy, we do not need to rush.

As for side effects (too many to quote) so far in my family only arm pain has been a real side effect. Both of my shots were identical in severity though 2nd time pain came on fasted. So far no one has been bad off even 2nd dose.

Those who have had covid are more likely for bad reactions. Also, and this is ignored by some, but our lousy media is helping to bring on anxiety which affects how quickly immunity . It can also bring on a nocebo effect. It's real. So try to relax. Most people do fine.

How can stress affect COVID-19 vaccine immune response?

Researchers at The Ohio State University reviewed vaccine studies in humans dating back 30 years. They examined studies that document how stress, depression and poor health behaviors can negatively affect the body’s immune response to vaccination, such as the COVID-19 vaccine.

wexnermedical.osu.edu

 

[DisneyFan32]

As of right now, that seems unlikely.
We need flu shots annually because of how rapidly those viruses mutate; SARS-CoV-2 has mutated, as all viruses do, but not nearly as quickly, so for everyone to need a booster shot that quickly, there’d have to be a pretty extreme mutation that drastically reduces efficacy of existing vaccines very quickly. And not just by creating more symptomatic infections, but by fully vaccinated people actually being hospitalized or dying from COVID.

So another winter surge is unlikely?

 

[danlb_2000]

So another winter surge is unlikely?

Nobody knows.

 

[correcaminos]

So another winter surge is unlikely?

I think truly it is time to step away from these covid groups. This is said with kindness and a motherly like mindset. You seem very anxious over every little thing with covid and reading here doesn't seem to help. No one here is all knowing, and no one here is actually a specialist as far as I know. We can only guess as much as you can.

 

[pixie225]

So another winter surge is unlikely?

Each year is a different story. Most likely there are surges among quite a number of infectious diseases/things, such as norovirus, that we don't really hear about. (unless noro outbreak occurs on a cruise ship - then it likely makes the news.). Can't constantly worry about things we really can't control. We seem to be getting a handle on covid due to the vaccine, and that is good.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Each year is a different story. Most likely there are surges among quite a number of infectious diseases/things, such as norovirus, that we don't really hear about. (unless noro outbreak occurs on a cruise ship - then it likely makes the news.). Can't constantly worry about things we really can't control. We seem to be getting a handle on covid due to the vaccine, and that is good.

The only control we have is to get the vaccine when it is our turn. Once you have the vaccine, real-world data from Israel and the UK suggest you can relax quite a bit without the existential worry we’ve had for more than a year.

 

[DisneyFan32]

Each year is a different story. Most likely there are surges among quite a number of infectious diseases/things, such as norovirus, that we don't really hear about. (unless noro outbreak occurs on a cruise ship - then it likely makes the news.). Can't constantly worry about things we really can't control. We seem to be getting a handle on covid due to the vaccine, and that is good.

Before end of 2021, US will go back to normal for good?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Before end of 2021, US will go back to normal for good?

We can hope for that.

 

[pixie225]

Before end of 2021, US will go back to normal for good?

Depends on how many get the vaccine, herd immunity, variants of covid, etc. As MansionButler84 said - we can only hope for that.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Depends on how many get the vaccine, herd immunity, variants of covid, etc. As MansionButler84 said - we can only hope for that.

I should have added: how on earth will we forgive our fellow Americans if we fail to prevent another wave because not enough people choose to take the vaccine?

It’s why I’m trying my best to stay calm with people who are still on the fence. I’ve converted a couple dozen people between family and work. I hope everyone else is doing the same whenever possible—not in a condescending way, but in a matter-of-fact, “this is how we can end this” way. It’s not beneath me to say, “we might even lose the masks soon!”

Whatever it takes.