Covid Vaccine Updates and General Discussion About Vaccines

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think it’s too early to say. We just don’t know what public sentiment will be. I really think a large number of people will strongly object to Covid restrictions months after the danger has passed. Disney won’t keep restrictions longer than they have to.

Public sentiment doesn’t have the brains to override Disney legal.

Here’s another factoid today:
3 states are now above 50% total of the h1N7 variant (the British strain)...tougher and more contagious.

Wanna take guesses on the 3?

 

[DeletedAccount55555]

Spoke with a virologist from a top medical research hospital ( look at my state and you’ll figure it out). She said by this time next year Covid will not be a thing at all. We will just return to the coronavirus were used to. The cold. Pretty interesting take.

Optimistic but not unreasonable given the real-world data we're seeing with the vaccines.

 

[GoofGoof]

One missing ingredient in this equation: When will all Disney cast members vaccinated?

It would look really, really bad, in my view, for the company to give into any public pressure about harmless inconveniences like masks to put their own employees at risk.

I started by saying they wouldn’t do anything with masks until after the vaccine was rolled out to anyone who wants it and a large percent of adults are vaccinated. CMs should be vaccinated by May/June if the rollout is successful although many will be amongst the last to go in FL based on the way the priorities are being set. I would assume Disney either requires the vaccine for employees in certain roles or strongly encourages it. It would be a good selling feature on WDW safety to say everyone working here is vaccinated so no threat to spread Covid to guests.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Optimistic but not unreasonable given the real-world data we're seeing with the vaccines. With all the fear over variants, people forget that even if the vaccines were *less* effective against symptomatic infection from those variants, you're likely to have a better immune response to those variants that you wouldn't have had prior to the vaccine. Similar to how flu vaccines don't fully protect against the flu, but vaccinated individuals tend to have milder flu if they're infected.



This is also true. That's why it's in everyone's interest to fund vaccinations in the third world instead of focusing on this sort of vaccine nationalism that we're seeing now.



One missing ingredient in this equation: When will all Disney cast members vaccinated?

It would look really, really bad, in my view, for the company to give into any public pressure about harmless inconveniences like masks to put their own employees at risk.

I have news for you... many cast members hate masks and want them gone just as much as guests do. I don't know where this weird notion that cast members are uniquely afraid of COVID relative to the general population came from. Masks are not "minor inconveniences" when you're working full shifts... on your feet... outdoors... in Orlando... in July.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I have news for you... many cast members hate masks and want them gone just as much as guests do. I don't know where this weird notion that cast members are uniquely afraid of COVID relative to the general population came from. Masks are not "minor inconveniences" when you're working full shifts... on your feet... outdoors... in Orlando... in July.

A good reason to have not have reopened...but Governor dip wasn’t NARCed out then

 

[ToTBellHop]

Here in CT, we are averaging 70% or greater uptake and the Governor announced that we are now on pace to have vaccine available to everyone 16+ in 6 weeks (late April). Things are really accelerating, now.

 

[GoofGoof]

I have news for you... many cast members hate masks and want them gone just as much as guests do. I don't know where this weird notion that cast members are uniquely afraid of COVID relative to the general population came from. Masks are not "minor inconveniences" when you're working full shifts... on your feet... outdoors... in Orlando... in July.

The union did negotiate as part of the re-opening that masks would be required. I’m sure it’s not much more than a rubber stamp but Disney would need to go back to them and ask before removing the mandate unless it’s clear the pandemic is over.

 

[GoofGoof]

Here in CT, we are averaging 70% or greater uptake and the Governor announced that we are now on pace to have vaccine available to everyone 16+ in 6 weeks (late April). Things are really accelerating, now.

Biden say open to all adults by May 1 now. Really exciting news.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The union did negotiate as part of the re-opening that masks would be required. I’m sure it’s not much more than a rubber stamp but Disney would need to go back to them and ask before removing the mandate unless it’s clear the pandemic is over.

Understood and fair point. But the CMs themselves are not monolithic and don't all agree with whatever union leadership decides.

 

[GoofGoof]

Understood and fair point. But the CMs themselves are not monolithic and don't all agree with whatever union leadership decides.

For sure. I think it’s just a formality but a step still needed. They can’t just decide to eliminate masks on a whim, which they wouldn’t do anyway. Once the vaccine is widely available to CMs it a moot point.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Here in CT, we are averaging 70% or greater uptake and the Governor announced that we are now on pace to have vaccine available to everyone 16+ in 6 weeks (late April). Things are really accelerating, now.

Jeez...another one of you??


(Kidding...nice stats)

 

[danlb_2000]

Here in CT, we are averaging 70% or greater uptake and the Governor announced that we are now on pace to have vaccine available to everyone 16+ in 6 weeks (late April). Things are really accelerating, now.

What do you mean by that?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

What do you mean by that?

Of the age groups that have been eligible, 70% are making the appointments.

 

[Skibum1970]

Here in Ohio, I get my first shot a week from Saturday. Pretty excited because there aren't a lot of open slots to get a shot.

 

[DeletedAccount55555]

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[ToTBellHop]

What do you mean by that?

75+ opened 7 weeks ago and is still slowly trickling up (was 74% last week)
65+ opened 4 weeks ago and is still increasing (was 59% last week)
55+ opened 1 week ago

 

[ToTBellHop]

The President tonight directed all states to open vaccination to all adults by May 1 and stated that small celebrations will be able to occur for Independence Day. This is a remarkable acceleration over where we were a few months ago.

 

[seascape]

The President tonight directed all states to open vaccination to all adults by May 1 and stated that small celebrations will be able to occur for Independence Day. This is a remarkable acceleration over where we were a few months ago.

No it's not a remarkable acceleration. If the country is not fully open by the 4th of July we will be months behind where Operation Warp Speed was designed to take us. We vaccinated well over 1 million people on January 20th. We should be well past 3 million a day now and 4 million a day in April. For Biden to take or even be given credit for this progress is just wrong.

Science gave us the vaccine in January 2020. It is because of Government regulations that we are not fully vaccinated today. We need to speed up the approval process and manufacturing of medicine and vaccines. We need to figure out why the USA ever let out pharmaceutical manufacturing out of the USA. We need to ensure we are never dependent on another country for our health. Forget who is the President today or who was last year. We lost over 500 million US Citizens because Presidents prior to Trump sold us out and made up dependent on China. Neither Trump nor Biden really deserve credit for the end of the pandemic and Trump doesn't deserve the blame for it either. The pandemic was either just a natural disaster or caused by China, in either case the US and the rest of the world were just victims.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Got my first dose today (months ahead of when I thought I’d be eligible) and gotta say the vaccination site I went to in Las Vegas (LV convention center) was amazingly efficient. They opened eligibility to hospitality workers last night and I was able to get an appointment for this morning, from the time I walked in the door at 10am to walking out the door was 50 minutes, and that included 20 minutes post shot for evaluation. I already have my second shot scheduled for the first week of April.

They were using one of the massive convention halls as the queue and had dozens of people lining us up, checking us in, and directing traffic and then in another massive convention room there were dozens of people administering shots and a huge seated observation area... they were moving us through like cattle. Must be moving a couple thousand people an hour through that one location.

My brothers and sisters were also able to get their shots in Utah over the last couple weeks, I think we were all surprised how fast we became eligible since they are in their late 50s and I’m in my late 40s. I was on the fence when they announced the vaccines in December (the trials felt rushed) but I now have dozens of friends and family members who have had the shots over the last couple months and no one has had a bad reaction so I jumped at the chance. It finally feels like the end is in site.

 

[ToTBellHop]

No it's not a remarkable acceleration. If the country is not fully open by the 4th of July we will be months behind where Operation Warp Speed was designed to take us. We vaccinated well over 1 million people on January 20th. We should be well past 3 million a day now and 4 million a day in April. For Biden to take or even be given credit for this progress is just wrong.

Science gave us the vaccine in January 2020. It is because of Government regulations that we are not fully vaccinated today. We need to speed up the approval process and manufacturing of medicine and vaccines. We need to figure out why the USA ever let out pharmaceutical manufacturing out of the USA. We need to ensure we are never dependent on another country for our health. Forget who is the President today or who was last year. We lost over 500 million US Citizens because Presidents prior to Trump sold us out and made up dependent on China. Neither Trump nor Biden really deserve credit for the end of the pandemic and Trump doesn't deserve the blame for it either. The pandemic was either just a natural disaster or caused by China, in either case the US and the rest of the world were just victims.

What complete nonsense.

The pacing of vaccine rollout has accelerated well beyond the initial schedule set by the pharmaceutical companies. Initially, their most-ambitious plans would have seen enough vaccine for all adults arriving toward 7/1, so the pacing has accelerated by 2 months. We are on pace to fully vaccinate our population faster than probably any major country (the only question is the UK, but they still need to deal with dose 2 starting very soon). If you want to suggest we should already be administering 3 million doses per day, that was a failure of OWS to ramp up production last year.

Given where we were 2 months ago, it is a remarkable acceleration.