Covid Vaccine Updates and General Discussion About Vaccines

[networkpro]

My second Moderna shot is scheduled in two weeks and my mom's first is scheduled in the same time frame! I can live with the temp side effects of arm pain and fatigue that I encountered on the first shot.

I had the same side effects with the addition of joint pain. I understand we get to look forward to a greater reaction with the second shot.

 

[TTA94]

@MansionButler84 Do you have any idea what numbers of cases, etc that WDW is looking for in order to, let’s say, relax social distancing and bring back nighttime shows, etc? Just a wild guess they probably do not care who gets vaccinated or which does people are on, as long as cases continue to drop?

 

[networkpro]

It is the same go getting them attitude of the ones called the "vaccine hunters ". Some do their research and look to see where they can score leftover doses for themselves but going to different vaccine centers. Instead of leftover vaccines going to waste, more people can get vaccinated to include the vaccine hunters.

While getting my vaccine, the pharmacy I was at was calling up patients who qualified for the 1A category to consume the doses that had been scheduled, but patients did not show up. One person came within 5 minutes of being called. Current Moderna vaccine vials come in 10 doses per vial and can only be administered within 2 hours 30 minutes when refrigerated or one hour at room temperature. (I looked that up after being shocked that people were actually not showing up for appointments). Modena is going to increase the number of doses from 10 to 15 in each vial.

 

[Shouldigo12]

According to something I saw in my work e-mail this morning, the New York Library Association is advocating library employees (like me) get included in the next batch of people eligible for the COVID vaccine. However, I wouldn't feel right getting it at this point since there's someone else (like my parents) who need it more than me right now.

Like helenabear said- please get the shot if it's offered to you. Contact your government if you really feel librarians shouldnt be next, but if it's decided you go in the next group there's nothing you can do at that point. Denying the shot just slows the process down and means there's one more unvaccinated person.

 

[Shouldigo12]

Yes, that casino owner and his actress wife are bad examples. Stealing doses from others is never okay. Legitimately getting a vaccine through priority lists or even signing up as a no show fill in, I'm totally cool with it. As you said not wasting is important and it will help with community spread.

The waste is so upsetting. The hospital my mom works at had a freezer break and sent out a mass email begging whoever hadn't had their shot yet to please come in. My mom emailed back with a list of people she knew who were either essential works, elderly, or sick (or a combination of the above) and asked if any of them could come in.

Nope. They said they'd only give it to someone who worked at the hospital. My mom asked if they'd let anyone else come get it if in they still had doses left and they were almost to the point of needing to be thrown out.

Still no. They said they would just toss whatever was left. Because, clearly, that's better than getting one more person vaccinated.

 

[Lilofan]

While getting my vaccine, the pharmacy I was at was calling up patients who qualified for the 1A category to consume the doses that had been scheduled, but patients did not show up. One person came within 5 minutes of being called. Current Moderna vaccine vials come in 10 doses per vial and can only be administered within 2 hours 30 minutes when refrigerated or one hour at room temperature. (I looked that up after being shocked that people were actually not showing up for appointments). Modena is going to increase the number of doses from 10 to 15 in each vial.

I have heard of some booking multiple appts in several places to get the Moderna vaccine. Not good since they don't even call to cancel.

 

[Heppenheimer]

The waste is so upsetting. The hospital my mom works at had a freezer break and sent out a mass email begging whoever hadn't had their shot yet to please come in. My mom emailed back with a list of people she knew who were either essential works, elderly, or sick (or a combination of the above) and asked if any of them could come in.

Nope. They said they'd only give it to someone who worked at the hospital. My mom asked if they'd let anyone else come get it if in they still had doses left and they were almost to the point of needing to be thrown out.

Still no. They said they would just toss whatever was left. Because, clearly, that's better than getting one more person vaccinated.

My hospital also sometimes has left-over doses at the end of the day amongst the doses allotted to staff. They send out an email at the end of the day announcing the extras, but they have not been able to consistently use every dose this way. I asked if these doses could go to family members (thinking of my wife who would jump at the chance) and the answer was, no, only for employees.

 

[correcaminos]

The vaccine waste like that is so frustrating. If no one shows up, give it to anyone. I give a lot more credit to those who do not waste a single dose than those who hoard and toss. Not really that much better than those who destroyed on purpose.

 

[ToTBellHop]

@MansionButler84 Do you have any idea what numbers of cases, etc that WDW is looking for in order to, let’s say, relax social distancing and bring back nighttime shows, etc? Just a wild guess they probably do not care who gets vaccinated or which does people are on, as long as cases continue to drop?

It’s a complicated calculus. Basically, “do we need to offer the shows to accommodate guests were are seeing, can we increase the amount of time they are in the park and how much they are spending, and is it safe enough to do so?” They have a public image to uphold. There’s also the issue that they want Disneyland open this summer. If standards at WDW fall too much, will CA let them reopen?

 

[danlb_2000]

While getting my vaccine, the pharmacy I was at was calling up patients who qualified for the 1A category to consume the doses that had been scheduled, but patients did not show up. One person came within 5 minutes of being called. Current Moderna vaccine vials come in 10 doses per vial and can only be administered within 2 hours 30 minutes when refrigerated or one hour at room temperature. (I looked that up after being shocked that people were actually not showing up for appointments). Modena is going to increase the number of doses from 10 to 15 in each vial.

Interesting, because those numbers don't agree with what Modern says on their web site.

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine (2024-2025 Formula) | Moderna

Learn about Moderna's COVID vaccine for children ages 6 months to 11 years.

www.modernatx.com

 

[ToTBellHop]

Quick reminder that we survived the flu epidemic 100 years ago. Masks even went away!

We survived the plague and medicine back then was blood-letting.

We will get out of this.

 

[networkpro]

Interesting, because those numbers don't agree with what Modern says on their web site.

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine (2024-2025 Formula) | Moderna

Learn about Moderna's COVID vaccine for children ages 6 months to 11 years.

www.modernatx.com

I incorrectly referencing numbers listed under "How to Thaw" here: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/moderna/index.html

The proper time period after the thaw :

1. Note the date and time the vial was first punctured. Keep the vaccine between 2°C and 25°C (36°F and 77°F) for up to 6 hours. Discard any unused vaccine after 6 hours.

 

[networkpro]

Quick reminder that we survived the flu epidemic 100 years ago. Masks even went away!

We survived the plague and medicine back then was blood-letting.

We will get out of this.

Perhaps

 

[ToTBellHop]

Perhaps

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You really think this virus is the end of our species?

C’mon.

 

[MrHappy]

The results are preliminary as we wait for larger trials, but in what will likely hold for all vaccines, AstraZeneca reported today that their vaccine seems to have cut COVID-19 transmission by at least half (they determined this by continuing to collect nasal swabs and comparing PCR test results between those who received vaccine and those who did not). They intend to eventually also test people who were near the vaccinated, but that type of study will take much longer. But, it is expected that keeping people negative for COVID-19 will also prevent spread. So, here we find a vaccine that not only successfully prevents most symptomatic cases, but in fact prevents most cases altogether, which would greatly reduce spread.

AZ's efficacy also rose to 70% with more data and they claim they are finding even higher efficacy if they space out doses by 12 weeks.

I’m wondering.... wouldn’t the other companies have done this sort of follow-up testing?

 

[Heppenheimer]

Quick reminder that we survived the flu epidemic 100 years ago. Masks even went away!

We survived the plague and medicine back then was blood-letting.

We will get out of this.

I might add that the reason for #2 is that plague epidemics would run out of steam mostly because after a certain point, the disease kills faster than it can spread.

 

[networkpro]

You really think this virus is the end of our species?

C’mon.

No, its hard to find an image for implied sarcasm, so I went full "Army of the 12 Monkeys"

 

[ToTBellHop]

I might add that the reason for #2 is that plague epidemics would run out of steam mostly because after a certain point, the disease kills faster than it can spread.

And the flu? People were dirty in 1920. Now we have scented hand sanitizer. My hands smell like a caramel apple.

 

[nickys]

I’m at least hoping for The Mara to be back fully.

Unlikely until AKL re-opens. And given it’s the largest of the deluxe resorts not yet open it will be the last of them to re-open. Otherwise DVC has to foot the entire cost of running it.

 

[networkpro]

And the flu? People were dirty in 1920. Now we have scented hand sanitizer. My hands smell like a caramel apple.

You're going to make some cannibal drool over dessert!