eliza61nyc
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My doctor told me this. The first day I was actually good. The second day I popped a couple of tylenol.
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Covid Vaccine Updates and General Discussion About Vaccines
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I read it here somewhere, maybe the other Covid thread and I saw it somewhere else online. Something to do with anti-inflammatory drugs possibly messing with the immune response but it’s not proven with this vaccine. Just a precaution.
That's true. Aspirin, Advil, Tylenol taking days before getting the Covid vaccine will impact/blunt the Moderna effectiveness. After getting the shot one can pop some of these pain killers to help with fatigue and sore arm as side effects of getting the vaccine. One word of advice- be fully well when you get the vaccine. If you run a fever, one must take some sort of medication to bring the fever down prior to getting the vaccine ( to pass the fever test day of vaccine ) but by doing so you will decrease the effectiveness of the first shot of the Moderna vaccine. It may take a few days for my right arm to be less sore after getting the first Moderna shot, doing limited mobility with it, just doing elliptical workouts at the gym instead and using the hot tub soaking to help decrease the soreness.
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cjack300zx
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I work at a grocery store so I was able to get my first dose of the vaccine from our pharmacy yesterday. I got the Moderma vaccine, 24hrs later my arm is a little sore or just a bit stiff is more like it
correcaminos
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There is no fact saying it will, but it may. They really don't know. In the trial we were not instructed either way.
Happy to hear this!
Doctors in Europe have advised .
Day 3 1/2 and my arm sore is much better after getting the Moderna vaccine. I still worked out in the gym minus the arm workouts . I did noticed I have been sleeping a bit more and feeling a little fatigued after getting the Moderna shot but after day three I feel much better. Soreness level on day 3 is around 15%. Day 1 and day 2 , arm soreness level was someone punching me with closed fist and hitting me multiple times. The medical experts were spot on that the Moderna vaccine may have side effects.
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correcaminos
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Not talking about advisories to be true. My point was it is not fact and I'm big on facts right now. They advise here for childhood vaccines as well, but it's still unknown in many for sure. Talk to your doctor if you are concerned if you take certain pain killers regularly for other issues. This is the first non pdf file I could find, but the language is all the same:
"Taking medications such as acetaminophen or ibuprofen before receiving the vaccine to try to prevent side effects like fever or pain is not recommended at this time. This is because there is not enough information on how this will impact antibody responses, though, you can take these medications after receiving the vaccine if you develop side effects."
Not a doctor but I understand why. This makes complete sense since Tylenol is not an anti-inflammatory medication. Tylenol interferes with your brain’s perception of pain. It works on the central nervous system. NSAIDs actually have an anti-inflammatory effect and work at the site of pain and inflammation.
If that's a medical recommendation then it is the individual getting the vaccine to roll the dice to heed the advice ( or not ). I'm big on not taking chances but that's just my humble opinion.
correcaminos
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You seem to be missing my point. I am not at all saying to ignore the recommendations, but just don't say something is a fact when it's an unknown. Which it is. If you take a medicine regularly that is a painkiller, talk to your doctor too. Follow what they suggest. I think I've said that twice now.
Heppenheimer
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That is correct. The precaution against pre-loading with NSAIDs is based on experience with other vaccines. Answering that specific question for the current vaccines will be best left for after the pandemic has settled down. Right now, we need everyone who is able to get the vaccine and not risk lower efficacy.
You seem to be missing my point. I merely pointed out medical expert feedback and you assume I am believing it and writing it as fact. Like I said roll the dice take the medical advice concerning avoiding pain killers ( Tylenol, Advil, Aspirin ) 1-2 days prior to the Moderna vaccine ( or not ).
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correcaminos
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I agree! No need to take risks. It's something they've been suggesting to parents with kids too for a long time. Not something we ever did anyway. I am reading some saying not to take it after either, but again, no one knows.
Actually I am not. I was merely correcting your statement that maybe at this point you didn't realize or mean to state it the way you did. Take the advice yes. Talk to doctors if you take it daily anyway for other conditions. We just simply cannot know at this point if it is an issue or not. We have no real world experience to decide to say that it will or will not lower. Pre-medicating has been discouraged since my 13yo was a baby at least, if not longer anyway.
Edit: and related but not directed towards anything other than immunity levels...
An interesting discussion I was reading too was about the length of time it takes one to get immunity and how it can be linked to mental well being. Also if we are in effect creating nocebo effects talking about side effects too. All interesting ideas not based on research yet.
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I get your feedback on this matter. I certainly felt the after side effects day 1 and 2 of the Moderna shot. Sitting in the hot tub to relieve soreness and sleeping more due to a little fatigue. I'm much better today.
ToTBellHop
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Here is a change at the CDC after 46 arrived: they work on weekends, now!
Up to 20.5 million doses administered and now averaging somewhere around 1.3 million doses per day, with many states reporting they could administer more if there were more shots. 2 million per day is not unreasonable by the end of February. That’s 1 million people per day, effectively. All signs point toward JnJ working well, which could increase us to 1.5 million people vaccinated per day in March.
Happy to hear someone let the CDC know COVID-19 doesn’t take weekends off.
I was entered into VAMS yesterday as an on-campus professor (teach in nursing programs, which can’t really function online). 2/25 for dose 1! Couldn’t be happier.
Up to 20.5 million doses administered and now averaging somewhere around 1.3 million doses per day, with many states reporting they could administer more if there were more shots. 2 million per day is not unreasonable by the end of February. That’s 1 million people per day, effectively. All signs point toward JnJ working well, which could increase us to 1.5 million people vaccinated per day in March.
Happy to hear someone let the CDC know COVID-19 doesn’t take weekends off.
I was entered into VAMS yesterday as an on-campus professor (teach in nursing programs, which can’t really function online). 2/25 for dose 1! Couldn’t be happier.
correcaminos
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Erm... that wasn't directed at you at all - sorry you thought that. Just something I read this morning between posts and added since it had to do with immunity levels. Edited the original to reflect my thoughts. Most intersting was mental state (anxiety, depression etc) seems to take longer to develop immunity. Then the nocebo attributed to anxiety. Goes with the person I know wo had joint and muscle pain, but only had the placebo in the trial. Some are expecting worse and feeling it. Though some side effects are not psychosomatic. I felt sore arm too for 2 days with Pfizer. Woken due to arm pain both times. Cannot attribute sleepiness to shot since I was woken up myself. But the arm pain was real.
Edit: tried to message you to extend an olive branch as I am thinking you are taking my posts in a way I don't intend them to be. But messaging is apparently not allowed on your end so I'm leaving it here. I was in the trial and truly find this all fascinating. Especially the bit about anxiety or depression and slowing down how long it takes to build immunity.
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wendysue
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Our nurse said to keep working that arm to limit soreness. So I hit the exercise bike (with the arm workout) that afternoon and the next day and luckily didn't get too much soreness.
Yesterday was the first weekend day over 1M doses and at 1.3M is on pace with the last 3 weekdays before it. Curious to see how today’s numbers look. Keeping weekend days over 1M should be a no brainer. We also haven’t had a day under 1.3M since Wed.
Buck Wheelie
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We live in Michigan and the right hand doesn't seem to know what the left hand is doing as far as administering the vaccine. They tell us
we have to register and then get assigned a group. I am in 1B based on age, health issues and workplace. On our health dept. website says they are currently vaccinating groups 1A, 1B and 1C. I called and asked why I haven't been contacted and was told they aren't to my part of 1B. So why are they vaccinating 1C??? We are also told you can only get the vaccine at a couple places set up by the health dept and not at your doctor office. Last week my Mother in Law got the vaccine at her family doctor office.
we have to register and then get assigned a group. I am in 1B based on age, health issues and workplace. On our health dept. website says they are currently vaccinating groups 1A, 1B and 1C. I called and asked why I haven't been contacted and was told they aren't to my part of 1B. So why are they vaccinating 1C??? We are also told you can only get the vaccine at a couple places set up by the health dept and not at your doctor office. Last week my Mother in Law got the vaccine at her family doctor office.