Could you please help me? Need to prepare a class about Thanksgiving!

disneytati

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tigsmom said:
Its a variation of the cornucopia.... this is a more "traditional" one. They are usually filled with fruits, veggies & flowers that are popular during the Fall season...apples, corn, gourds, grapes, Mums, Asters...that kind of stuff.

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Cool! I will use the picture of the cornucopia too. We have nothing like it here.
 

tigsmom

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disneytati said:
Oh, that's "powder milk" here...


Powder milk? When I hear that I think of dry milk powder...you mix it with water to make non fat milk...good for cooking, but I don't like the taste.



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disneytati

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tigsmom said:
Powder milk? When I hear that I think of dry milk powder...you mix it with water to make non fat milk...good for cooking, but I don't like the taste.

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Yeah, that's it. So you call it "dry milk powder", cool! We drink it a lot here, but it's not necessarily non fat. We have regular ones too. And here, it's the opposite, they are not good for cooking, but they taste good.
 

tigsmom

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Powdered milk (where you add water) is different from evaporated milk (has 50% of the water removed, also known as condensed milk) and sweetened condensed milk (has large amounts of sugar added, then the water is taken out) is very sweet & sticky. The first two can be used for the same thing (drinking, cooking & baking), but the last is usually used for baking/cooking as it isn't easy to swallow straight.
 

ClemsonTigger

Naturally Grumpy
I can't add much additional to this thread as my thoughts had been addressed by page three. I would like to offer some general variations to sum this up for Tati.

The "traditional" meal is turkey with stuffing, potatoes, gravy, veggies, cranberry sauce (has that been mentioned yet?) in large quantities followed by dessert that is usually pies...pumpkin, apple and others. We then go into regional and ethnic variations that add a lot of variety.

Debbie has provided you with some Southern variations including oyster stuffing, turdukin was started in New Orleans I believe, some have mashed potatoes, others have candied yams or sweet potatoe souffle (or pie) and desserts like pecan pie (that has now become fairly widely adopted). Deep fried turkey has also become a bit of a trend.

Then like Tigsmom said, our many ethnic groups add some of their specialties. (Where are the pierogi, Tigsmom?)

Oh, for the turdukin, there are separate "stuffings" between each layer to keep the flavors separate.

As for the cornucopia, one alteration I would suggest is that I am more used to them being filled with fruit and nuts rather than decorative gourds. I usually have the "responsibility" of assembling them for family meals.

Due to the number of people, we often have "adult" and "children" tables, much to the displeasure of the older kids that want to "graduate".

As per the start of the Christmas season, at the end of the Macy's parade, the last float is Santa's sleigh signaling the "official" start.

Decorations tend to be subtle and indoors. Flowers, the cornucopia, turkeys, pilgrims and corn.

Many high school football championship games are played as well as college rivalry games.

While I shudder to call it a tradition, the first of the Christmas programming is also aired in the evening. It's a Wonderful Life and A Christmas Carol usually have their first of many airings.
 

disneytati

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tigsmom said:
Powdered milk (where you add water) is different from evaporated milk (has 50% of the water removed, also known as condensed milk) and sweetened condensed milk (has large amounts of sugar added, then the water is taken out) is very sweet & sticky. The first two can be used for the same thing (drinking, cooking & baking), but the last is usually used for baking/cooking as it isn't easy to swallow straight.

Sorry for the confusion... Yeah, it's like that here too. I am just not sure about the evaporated milk (is it liquid or powder?it doesn't contain sugar, right?). We have sweetened condensed milk here (which I LOOOOOVE). Are they similar in appearance? Here, we eat sweetened condensed milk like dessert, sometimes... I like to mix it with powder chocolate (Nesquik) and put it in the freezer for 20 minutes until it gets a bit harder...

Thanks for the summary, Clemson Tigger!!! What is your name, and where are you from?
 

Debbie

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ClemsonTigger said:
Debbie has provided you with some Southern variations including oyster stuffing, turdukin was started in New Orleans I believe, some have mashed potatoes, others have candied yams or sweet potatoe souffle (or pie) and desserts like pecan pie (that has now become fairly widely adopted). Deep fried turkey has also become a bit of a trend.

Oh, for the turdukin, there are separate "stuffings" between each layer to keep the flavors separate.


Turdukin was started down here! Another Southern variation is mirliton (Cajun pronounciation: Mel-LEE'-ton) which is vegetable pears. They are plentiful down here.
I prefer fried turkey to turdukin. Only thing is that the peanut oil is expensive; we usually try to strain it (it stays really clean) and freeze it for next year. It takes three gallons of peanut oil to do a turkey. There is a turkey pot sold now; although most of us down here have large pots to boil seafood. And most of us have the propane burners too.

Tati: I think all of us can agree that Thanksgiving takes a bit of planning, it can be plenty of hard work and expense if you do it all yourself, but the results are worth it when everyone is gathered together.
 

tigsmom

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disneytati said:
Sorry for the confusion... Yeah, it's like that here too. I am just not sure about the evaporated milk (is it liquid or powder?it doesn't contain sugar, right?). We have sweetened condensed milk here (which I LOOOOOVE). Are they similar in appearance? Here, we eat sweetened condensed milk like dessert, sometimes... I like to mix it with powder chocolate (Nesquik) and put it in the freezer for 20 minutes until it gets a bit harder...

Thanks for the summary, Clemson Tigger!!! What is your name, and where are you from?


Evaporated milk comes in a can and its liquid...it tastes like regular milk but has some of the water taken out.

Cranberry sauce! How could we have forgotten that. One of my favorite "leftover meals" is a turkey, stuffing & cranberry sandwich (which is why I no longer weigh 100 lbs. :lol: )
My mom made the usually "plain stuffing" (not meat, fruit or nuts) while my mother in law makes sausage stuffing...the best I've ever tatsed.

CT, the homemade pierogies are for Easter (another thread idea!). They're an all day affair. :lol:

We also have 2 tables...the kid's table in the kitchen and the adult's table in the dinning room. (not really a bad thing because my kitchen [with a nook that has the table] and my dining room are really just a big room...no wall between them)...7 kids and 9 adults. (and that doesn't include my husband's side of the family) And there is only one way to move up....you have to wait for a chair to be "vacated". :(
 

ClemsonTigger

Naturally Grumpy
Tati,
My name is Dave, and I live outside of Trenton NJ. If you need more info, I'll be happy to PM you.

barnum42
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Originally Posted by Debbie
I prefer fried turkey to turdukin.

Is it just me, or would anyone else feel a little tentative about eating a dish that starts with "Turd"?

I'm surprised it took you so long Barnum. And this question from a culture that enjoys "clotted cream" [now thats an appealing sound to the American ear]. I know there are plenty more, but that comes easily to mind.

CT, the homemade pierogies are for Easter (another thread idea!). They're an all day affair.

Yea, you're right...although we have them for Christmas eve as well. Just when I heard Kielbasa & Cabbage I couldn't help but think of them, halupki, blennie and beet soup. (I'm part Lithuanian and Russian, and use to enjoy all of this from my mothers family [coal region, NE PA]). I also suffered through 5 years of a Polish Catholic school. While we don't make any of it anymore, we do buy and enjoy at various holidays. (I do stay away from the pickled herring and smelts however) :lookaroun
 

pinkrose

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ClemsonTigger said:
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Debbie has provided you with some Southern variations including oyster stuffing, turdukin was started in New Orleans I believe, some have mashed potatoes, others have candied yams or sweet potatoe souffle (or pie) and desserts like pecan pie (that has now become fairly widely adopted). Deep fried turkey has also become a bit of a trend.

Isn't it funny how even in the South, we have different variations. Just one state over, we don't do oyster stuffing, but we do cornbread dressing.

Yes, cranberry sauce had been mentioned (I make my own). :wave:
 

ACE

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You guys keep calling the Friday after Thanksgiving "Black Friday". When I worked at Toys R Us we called it "Green Friday". I think it depends on your point of view. :lol:

:wave: ACE
 

ACE

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barnum42 said:
As you know, Thanksgiving is not celebrated in the UK (Though we do find it amusing thanking the Native Americans for assisting in the survival of the people who would in turn slaughter many of them, but that's another story).

This coming from someone who's country lead the "Crusades". Oh wait the pilgrims came from that country too. Now it all makes sense. Just poking fun at ya.

I'm sure most of our countries have things in their past that we are not proud of. My wife is part Indian and Black, not to mention Irish & Scottish. Yeah she's a little mixed up. :lol: Her heritage is full of prejudice and hatred towards her people. Hopefully one day we will all learn to treat each other with kindness and love. It's sad that we aren't there already.

On a lighter note, we have a friend who lives in Bristol. She's actually more of my mother-in-law's friend but she sends my kids birthday gifts every year. My kids refer to her as their "British Grandma". I've met her once when she came to the states for a visit. Great lady.

Didn't mean to chatter away, was just gonna pick on you a little (all in fun).

Take Care,
:wave: ACE
 

darthdarrel

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ClemsonTigger said:
Tati,
Just when I heard Kielbasa & Cabbage I couldn't help but think of them, halupki, blennie and beet soup.
The only time we have Kielbasa & cabbage is at New years eve, why? I do not know as I hate it! :lol: My mom is part German and This is a tradition that was handed down from her father who was half Italian and half German, his father was 100% German. I do not know if this is even a "German" tradition, just that this tradition was handed down from my great grandfather. Every New years eve we always have Sour crout and Kielbasa cooked in beer! :lol: YUCK! :hurl: :lookaroun
 

tigsmom

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ACE said:
You guys keep calling the Friday after Thanksgiving "Black Friday". When I worked at Toys R Us we called it "Green Friday". I think it depends on your point of view. :lol:

:wave: ACE

I can't post what I personally call it. :zipit:

Black Friday is the term the retail industry uses...the day they go "into the black" because it kicks off the heavy shopping for Christmas.
 

barnum42

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ACE said:
This coming from someone who's country lead the "Crusades". Oh wait the pilgrims came from that country too. Now it all makes sense. Just poking fun at ya.

I'm sure most of our countries have things in their past that we are not proud of. My wife is part Indian and Black, not to mention Irish & Scottish. Yeah she's a little mixed up. :lol: Her heritage is full of prejudice and hatred towards her people. Hopefully one day we will all learn to treat each other with kindness and love. It's sad that we aren't there already.

On a lighter note, we have a friend who lives in Bristol. She's actually more of my mother-in-law's friend but she sends my kids birthday gifts every year. My kids refer to her as their "British Grandma". I've met her once when she came to the states for a visit. Great lady.

Didn't mean to chatter away, was just gonna pick on you a little (all in fun).

Take Care,
:wave: ACE
There is plenty going on in my country now that I am not proud of, never mind several hundred years ago.

I can relate to the Irish and Scottish mix up, as I have that in my blood too :lol: Does your Bristol friend have the Bristolian accent? If so how difficult was it for her to be understood on her visit.
 

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