Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[correcaminos]

AFAIK, in talking to people who have already gotten their first dose (lucky them - I still can't get an appointment) you have an appointment for your second dose before you leave the facility - at the same time, ie, if you got your first dose at 2:15PM you will get your second one 21 days later at 2:15PM.

Two first come, first served facilities, opened 8 hrs/day 6 days a week-or until 500 doses are given- are opening Monday, but are based on your birth month - Monday for Jan/Feb, Tuesday for Mar/Apr, and son on. Photo ID is required with DOB is required. It's for anyone over 65, or any healthcare workers of any age who must also present their work ID. This is in Duval County/Jacksonville.

That's more of what they did with my MIL (we got her one in Hillsborough county). I spent hours re-dailing and refreshing to get her her first appointment. Disney trained me for that. I specifically asked and she was scheduled for her second before she left. Though not sure if it was automatically the same time 3 weeks later (Pfizer shot) or not. I'll ask her tomorrow when I talk to her. I have a friend who drove 2 hours to Ocala to get one. I'll have to ask if he was scheduled already. I know many are driving to wherever they can get an appointment for one.

There is no way she could have sat the hours for 1st come 1st serve type locations. She has too many issues to tolerate that well so I am thankful we got her through. My FIL says he will get his through the VA.

 

[techgeek]

Two first come, first served facilities, opened 8 hrs/day 6 days a week-or until 500 doses are given- are opening Monday, but are based on your birth month - Monday for Jan/Feb, Tuesday for Mar/Apr, and son on.

This has got to take the cake for most convoluted distribution plan. This is what happens when you let every county do whatever they want... and people wonder why there’s confusion in Florida - in the same media market, there can be 5 (or more) wildly differing procedures, plus even different sites in the same county dictating their own plan.

 

[jlhwdw]

That’s not what he said at all. What is it with conservatives and their projecting lately?!

I am actually a lifelong democrat. I just know our system is so broken and not meant to help the little guy in this kind of situation (or any situation really). Closing again is not practical unless you want a wave of layoffs that will make the last one look like nothing.

 

[Touchdown]

Also, 28 days (or 21 for Pfizer) is not absolute, the FDA recommendations are for +/- 4 days (17-25 for Pfizer, 24-32 days Moderna) I was able at my hospital to make adjustments and did so that my second shot is on a day where I do not work the next day in case I’m one of the 10% who experience moderate symptoms the day after my second shot (muscle aches, fever, and or headache.) I don’t know if these Florida sites can do that with their limited capacity but it might not hurt to ask.

 

[The Mom]

This has got to take the cake for most convoluted distribution plan. This is what happens when you let every county do whatever they want... and people wonder why there’s confusion in Florida - in the same media market, there can be 5 (or more) wildly differing procedures, plus even different sites in the same county dictating their own plan.

I disagree. I know that since I didn't get an appointment for next week, I can try to get a vaccination at one of the other facilities if I'm willing to wait in line with everyone else over 65 who has a birthday in Jan/Feb. If I can't get one - or leave because I think the line is too long - I can try to get an appointment when the window opens at 5PM on Thursday for the week of the Jan 18-22. If I again can't get one, I can again go to the wait in line site on the 18th. And so on until I get the vaccine. The appointment site also has an option for "is this first or second dose?" which may be why there is now a back-up.

The only issue will be that those who already got the shot will get first priority in the line to make sure they receive the second dose within the window.

There is no confusion if people pay attention to media. There is confusion if people do not follow directions in booking the appointment or filling out the paperwork involved. A certain number of people will be confused and not do things correctly. This is the state where people couldn't follow the simple direction to "make sure your stylus punches all the way through the paper" when using the butterfly ballot.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

I am actually a lifelong democrat. I just know our system is so broken and not meant to help the little guy in this kind of situation (or any situation really). Closing again is not practical unless you want a wave of layoffs that will make the last one look like nothing.

Well we did the not shutting down during thanks giving and Christmas. We can see what that’s doing.

 

[correcaminos]

Also, 21 days (or 14 for Pfizer) is not absolute, the FDA recommendations are for +/- 4 days (10-18 for Pfizer, 17-25 for Moderna) I was able at my hospital to make adjustments and did so that my second shot is on a day where I do not work the next day in case I’m one of the 10% who experience moderate symptoms the day after my second shot (muscle aches, fever, and or headache.) I don’t know if these Florida sites can do that with their limited capacity but it might not hurt to ask.

21 Pfizer and 28 Moderna. In the trial they limited to +/- 2 days for us (just giving an FYI).

For my MIL it was scheduled 3 weeks later since it was the Pfizer shot.

 

[Touchdown]

21 Pfizer and 28 Moderna. In the trial they limited to +/- 2 days for us (just giving an FYI).

For my MIL it was scheduled 3 weeks later since it was the Pfizer shot.

You’re right, messed up days in my post, 21 for Pfizer, 28 for Moderna.

 

[jlhwdw]

Well we did the not shutting down during thanks giving and Christmas. We can see what that’s doing.

California is essentially shut down. Cases are worse there than in Florida where we're 75% business as usual.

In no way am I saying things should be opened up 100% and the heck with everything. Florida should absolutely be doing more. But Walt Disney World being open responsibly is not the problem a few on these forums want to believe it is.

 

[jlhwdw]

Those that are visiting/traveling to WDW that are "part of the problem" aren't going to sit home and watch Netflix if the place were to close. They are going to visit/travel somewhere else. Those that are traveling and going out will continue to travel and go out. The stay at home warriors will continue to stay home even if everything is open and available.

 

[carolina_yankee]

Just putting out there that NPR did a story this AM with a tattoo artist in California. Apparently she's doing a ton of Disney tattoos because people can't get to Disney and want a reminder of happier times! Look for a lot of Disney characters as body art at the pools this summer.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Just putting out there that NPR did a story this AM with a tattoo artist in California. Apparently she's doing a ton of Disney tattoos because people can't get to Disney and want a reminder of happier times! Look for a lot of Disney characters as body art at the pools this summer.

And look for a lot of embarrassed calls to plastic surgeons and dermatologists the following summer...

 

[tnemgif]

Interesting to see this article trending on a pretty mainstream news source:

Disney World is losing its magic, and as a lifelong fan I worry it will never come back

Disney World is changing for the worse, and factors like the loss of employees and classic attractions are to blame, our reporter writes.

www.insider.com

 

[techgeek]

There is no confusion if people pay attention to media. There is confusion if people do not follow directions in booking the appointment or filling out the paperwork involved. A certain number of people will be confused and not do things correctly.

My biggest problem is not necessarily the variety of options (walk up / book appointment, etc), but the fact that there is no one central site coordinating that information and availability.

The county health department websites are mostly dense and unhelpful. I’ve tried to assist several (not technically savvy) family and friends with information, and it would be great if there were one site I could point them at and say “here you go”, instead of “well, it depends. Can you wait in line? Can you wake up at 2am to hit this web portal for a reservation? Do you want to drive to Orlando or Tampa?”

My grandmother is 90, she can’t do any of these things. She doesn’t drive. She doesn’t have a computer or smart phone. She can’t realistically get up at 5am and wait in a line. She should be one of the first in line to get this, and there should have been ways to reach people in her situation. Her PCP has her on a list for when they get stock themselves, but they haven’t been told when that might be or even if. Her just going into the docs office to get it would likely be ideal and least risk to her, but it’s frustrating that the people that need it most are the ones that can’t navigate the complexities of this early availability themselves.

Options are great. Confusion and complexity is not. This isn’t securing a boarding group for RotR and a prime time Le Cellier res, this is a lifesaving vaccine in a global once-in-a-century pandemic that Florida and all other levels of government had 8 months to figure out a plan for. Someone from the county health department should have been knocking on her door in person by now.

 

[Jrb1979]

California is essentially shut down. Cases are worse there than in Florida where we're 75% business as usual.

In no way am I saying things should be opened up 100% and the heck with everything. Florida should absolutely be doing more. But Walt Disney World being open responsibly is not the problem a few on these forums want to believe it is.

I disagree. At the beginning I would say they were doing it responsibly, now not so much. Upping capacity and adding plexiglass to fill rides is not doing it responsibly. I will say they are adding to the problem now.

Interesting to see this article trending on a pretty mainstream news source:

Disney World is losing its magic, and as a lifelong fan I worry it will never come back

Disney World is changing for the worse, and factors like the loss of employees and classic attractions are to blame, our reporter writes.

www.insider.com

People have been saying that for awhile. They have been slowly cutting magic away.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

But Walt Disney World being open responsibly is not the problem a few on these forums want to believe it is.

Walt Disney World isn’t open as responsible as some on these forums seem to believe either imho.

 

[Chi84]

Interesting to see this article trending on a pretty mainstream news source:

Disney World is losing its magic, and as a lifelong fan I worry it will never come back

Disney World is changing for the worse, and factors like the loss of employees and classic attractions are to blame, our reporter writes.

www.insider.com

Apparently written by someone who can't handle change, doesn't like that attractions changed over the years, and seemingly wanted Disney to close during the pandemic but continue to pay its workers. Also won't be going back while masks are necessary. In other words, that article is going to play great with a lot of people on this forum

 

[_caleb]

California is essentially shut down. Cases are worse there than in Florida where we're 75% business as usual.

In no way am I saying things should be opened up 100% and the heck with everything. Florida should absolutely be doing more. But Walt Disney World being open responsibly is not the problem a few on these forums want to believe it is.

I just want people to be honest about the fact that we don’t know how big a problem WDW being open really is.

 

[_caleb]

Walt Disney World isn’t open as responsible as some on these forums seem to believe either imho.

Right. Many of the same people who scoffed at the notion of temp checks, masks, and distancing markers as being merely “theater,” have then insisted that ”Disney is open responsibly” and “Disney is the safest place you could visit.” And all of this with no actual data to show how many people are exposed at WDW.

 

[_caleb]

Apparently written by someone who can't handle change, doesn't like that attractions changed over the years, and seemingly wanted Disney to close during the pandemic but continue to pay its workers. Also won't be going back while masks are necessary. In other words, that article is going to play great with a lot of people on this forum

I just read the opinion you linked commented on, and I’m not sure why you interpreted it so uncharitably. You say that author ”can’t handle change,” but she makes it clear that it’s specifically the move to shoehorn IP everywhere that bothers her.

And Disney’s poor treatment of CMs began long before COVID closures. What the Company spends on marketing alone ($4.3B/yr.) could likely have been better spent (with better return) keeping CMs employed (furloughed, alternative assignments, special projects, etc.).