Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Hawg G]

It won’t. If you are sitting somewhere and you are 6 feet away from someone its not an issue. At DS they have some food vendors without tables so they wanted to accommodate them so they allowed people to walk around and eat or drink. Think ice cream cone or Starbucks drink or Wetzels pretzel. They just asked people not to fully remove the face covering but pull it down, take a bite or sip and replace it. Very simple concept. What they are trying to avoid are people who grab a coffee at rope drop to hold, put their mask in their pocket and then walk around all day without it using the coffee as the excuse why. They won’t have CMs following people around, but it’s fairly easy to see someone walking for a long distance without the mask and without eating or drinking. For example, a CM at the carousel sees a guy turn the corner where Philharmagic is with no mask on holding a Starbucks cup. If he gets past the carousel without taking any sips the CM should step in and ask him to put the mask on. If you are sitting on a bench sipping on a bottle of water I doubt anyone will say anything.

You do realize that scenario is ridiculous, right? So Disney will have spotters with radios. “Human (you can’t assign a gender or skin color for obvious reasons) in red shirt and blue pants holding Coke cup didn’t take a drink for 15 paces in front of Peter Pan... GET HIM!”

 

[Hawg G]

I clicked on your link just to get a laugh and the first line I see says:

Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. For more info about the coronavirus, see cdc.gov.

Yeah, no thanks.

And you think the other articles posted on here ARE fact checked?

Yeah, sure.

 

[mickeymiss]

NO ONE IS SAYING TO LOCKDOWN AGAIN. HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT HAVE TO BE SAID.

What most want is that when cases surge like is happening in Florida and Texas is instead of full steam ahead you pull back a bit. Instead of rushing to stage 3 you either stay at stage 2 or may have to drop somethings to phase 1. Maybe drop bar and restaurant capacity, make masks mandatory. I don't see the issue with doing that.

Say wut? Some have absolutely said we need to shut it all down again. I don’t see any issue with requiring masks but some people want to still shut places down that are mandating these things. My post was directed at that. Dropping to phase one could hurt businesses that were following rules in many states including my own. I say scrap the phases and come up with a new system that allows for more flexibility with businesses that are doing well.

 

[lilypgirl]

1) Lol. MY privilege?!? HA! Because I value life and wish to avoid harm to other's I am the target here? That is pretty crazy to believe that it is okay for people to die so you can make a buck.

2) Here you are just projecting. I never said that I don't drink. Your tirade might suggests that you do though, and it means the world to you.

We obviously have different values. I don't think that opening nonessential business so people can buy shoes is important. I don't think that that opening bars and restaurants (because it's a social think, right?) are needed when we all have phones. 122,900 Americans have died to COVID-19. That mean's a lot to me.

Let's agree to put each other on ignore.

And the rest of us don't because we want/need to work? I bet my stance on protecting life is far more drastic than yours( but we can't discuss that here) and yet I see the need for people to be able to work and realize that not everyone's occupation can be done from the comfort and safety of their home.

 

[kong1802]

Say wut? Some have absolutely said we need to shut it all down again. I don’t see any issue with requiring masks but some people want to still shut places down that are mandating these things. My post was directed at that. Dropping to phase one could hurt businesses that were following rules in many states including my own.

I don't think we need a shut down. We need to make masks mandatory. Period.

 

[GoofGoof]

What are your objections to Disney’s opening plan? Is there something you feel they are missing? I actually agree that some places are going to have to rethink their plans where the level of prolonged close contact is high but Disney has a near flawless arrangement. Largely outside, naturally minimal close contact with people, significant capacity limits, masks, temp checks, designated spots to stand, etc.

I think the rest of the state needs to follow Disney’s lead on this. Disney also needs to execute on the plan. I’ve heard recent rumblings that the temp checks aren’t always happening for CMs who don’t directly interact with the public. Could be an honest oversight due to the chaos of re-opening but they need to buckle that down and follow the plan they laid out.

 

[coasterphil]

What are your objections to Disney’s opening plan? Is there something you feel they are missing? I actually agree that some places are going to have to rethink their plans where the level of prolonged close contact is high but Disney has a near flawless arrangement. Largely outside, naturally minimal close contact with people, significant capacity limits, masks, temp checks, designated spots to stand, etc.

The concern, in my mind anyway, is that guests aren't teleporting into the Disney bubble, spending their whole trip inside that "bubble", and then magically back in the safety of their homes. Disney being open increases tourist activity across the region (I know, duh) and a lot of the people drawn here by Disney being open will likely also be participating in activities that will not be quite as safe or controlled as we all think/hope a day in a theme park will be. Given that it's exploding in Orange county right now, is drawing more people into the area the best thing to do? And is it right to bring people down here only to send them back to their communities that may have a better handle on things right now?

 

[easyrowrdw]

And you think the other articles posted on here ARE fact checked?

Yeah, sure.

The peer-reviewed journal articles? Yeah, sure.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

And you think the other articles posted on here ARE fact checked?

Yeah, sure.

I may as well get my info from Facebook.
Anyone can post and we don’t fact check? Come on now, we need to be better with where we are getting our info.

 

[GoofGoof]

You do realize that scenario is ridiculous, right? So Disney will have spotters with radios. “Human (you can’t assign a gender or skin color for obvious reasons) in red shirt and blue pants holding Coke cup didn’t take a drink for 15 paces in front of Peter Pan... GET HIM!”

What are you talking about? I said the exact opposite of that. I said they won’t have people following guests around looking for offenders. If a CM sees someone without a mask it will be fairly obvious.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

The concern, in my mind anyway, is that guests aren't teleporting into the Disney bubble, spending their whole trip inside that "bubble", and then magically back in the safety of their homes. Disney being open increases tourist activity across the region (I know, duh) and a lot of the people drawn here by Disney being open will likely also be participating in activities that will not be quite as safe or controlled as we all think/hope a day in a theme park will be. Given that it's exploding in Orange county right now, is drawing more people into the area the best thing to do?

This exactly. I worry for the thousands of cast members who don't really have a choice. Its not just a guest problem. I get that things need to reopen, and I can't wait to return to Disney one day, but right now is not the time for that to happen.

 

[mickeymiss]

I don't think we need a shut down. We need to make masks mandatory. Period.

I’m a free to choose person most of the time but I get it. They should be mandatory. It’s that simple. But the compromise here has to be accepting that businesses that agree to abide by this need to open and stay open barring an extreme circumstance.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

What’s he up to? Spill it

Heres the answer

 

[Hawg G]

Study finds face masks prevented thousands of COVID-19 cases. Experts say you should keep wearing them.

Other research says universal face mask use could reduce the death toll from COVID-19 in the U.S. by 33,000.

www.wesh.com

The study, published in the journal Health Affairs, estimates between 230,000 and 450,000 COVID-19 cases were prevented in states that required face masks between April 8 and May 15.

....

Researchers from the University of Washington say universal face mask use could reduce the death toll from COVID-19 by 33,000.

The university's latest projection says more than 179,000 Americans will die from coronavirus by Oct. 1.

"For pretty much every state that we've looked at, if we can get people to wear masks, we can not only save lives, but I sort of think of it as we can also save the economy because we can keep business going," said Dr. Chris Murray of the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation.

I guess this is one of those fact checked articles? Incredible that they have mask wearing % data, proper wearing data, etc. Especially since regardless of everything else, the vast majority of cases and deaths are of old people that aren’t out and about anyway.

This report is junk.

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

Heres the answer

I mean, the state is like 99% reopen. Not quite positive as to what this really does. Just make masks mandatory.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

I mean, the state is like 99% reopen. Not quite positive as to what this really does. Just make masks mandatory.

that's what I thought too lol. Thanks for nothing!

 

[milordsloth]

This exactly. I worry for the thousands of cast members who don't really have a choice. Its not just a guest problem. I get that things need to reopen, and I can't wait to return to Disney one day, but right now is not the time for that to happen.

“Plans to reopen Disneyland Resort in California have been postponed, but the schedule for the phased reopening of Walt Disney World has not changed, a Disney World spokeswoman said Thursday.”

Disneyland’s reopening delayed, but Disney World plans still on schedule, company says

Plans to reopen Disneyland Resort in California have been postponed, but the schedule for the phased reopening of Walt Disney World has not changed, a Disney World spokeswoman said Thursday. Disney…

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[disneygeek90]

I mean, the state is like 99% reopen. Not quite positive as to what this really does. Just make masks mandatory.

That's what I was thinking. What is not open there? I'm not sure if they have capacity limits in stores and restaurants but if they do I guess that would at least stop them from increasing capacity.

 

[Andrew C]

Heres the answer

Halted all elective surgeries in 4 major counties in order to help capacity. Someone already mentioned that I believe though.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

What is not open there?

I said these exact words