Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Miss Bella]

OF course I am serious.
I don't know you from Adam, so I don't know your story. I can tell you that my industry is flourishing in this environment.
To think that this trend (working remotely from the office) hasn't been coming and coming fast is simply naive.

You better drive around your city and take note of all the business that require people to be there in person.

 

[Chi84]

As of right now they are not allowing it. You can pull the mask down to eat or take a drink but have to replace it after taking a bite. You can’t walk around without a mask just holding a drink cup.

Didn't the WHO say that you shouldn't constantly touch the mask because of the risk of self-contamination? I guess Disney decided that the potential benefits outweigh the risks, but if you are outside and keeping a proper social distance, I doubt Disney is going to follow people to see that they are raising and lowering their mask between sips of water. I think most people will take the rules seriously and not try to circumvent them with silly games like this. Hopefully things will improve to the point that masks will be deemed unnecessary outside, where the risk is not as great.

 

[techgeek]

So, as a foreigner.. I wonder: what's daily live like now in Florida? What are the actual precautions taken in shops/restaurants etc...? And do most people care?

Florida is a very big and very diverse state, and the experience of daily life varies greatly and alarmingly depending on where exactly you are. Even within the major metro areas, there can be large differences in how seriously people are taking this on a micro level. One restaurant may be following guidance perfectly, while the one next door management has much different beliefs about how it should react.

Legal requirements now vary so much from jurisdiction to jurisdiction that it’s becoming hard to keep track of the details, and there’s little to no practical enforcement anyway.

Most people seem to care, but there’s a lot of nuance to their actual individual actions.

 

[FullSailDan]

So, as a foreigner.. I wonder: what's daily live like now in Florida? What are the actual precautions taken in shops/restaurants etc...? And do most people care?

Are any of such precautions also implemented in FLorida? Do people social distance in Walmart or other shops? (In some shops we even can't put stuff on the counter untill the previous customer has paid and left)

The precautions taken vary by store/restaurant/county. Im in Kissimmee, right outside the parks, home depot has security guards enforcing masks, other places do not. Registers had social distance markings and they wiped down surfaces after each customer. It was very well handled.

My dentist has one of 4 dentists back in the office, and they are mostly handling it well. They check temperature on check in, ask you to wash your hands before touching anything, and mandate you wear a mask. The furniture had all been spread out to prevent additional spreading.

I don't eat out, I don't go to the grocery store, I have everything delivered. However, I have seen plenty of people out and about without masks when driving or when I'm out on my daily run. But for the most part, people here do seem to be wearing masks. Florida's issue is really the uneven adherence and enforcement of things.

 

[MrHappy]

I wasn't attempting to be funny, we are culture that often times feel entitled and righteous in all the wrong moments. It's going to be a struggle for people to comply with these restrictions.

Unfortunately you’re right. But it’s also sadly comedic.

 

[Heppenheimer]

2. This is absurd. Your lack of consuming alcohol does not make you a better individual. And I'd argue that the alcohol is secondary in the need to "rush out to bars" It's a social setting that alot of people were lacking. Alot of people's mental health and well being, especially if they say live alone was not well. Just a piece of society in a setting that's social is a respite. And to many is worth the risk clearly. Get off your pedestal. Our downfall will be our lack of solid politicians and policies. Not as you said our "addiction" to alcohol.

I'm pretty sure the lockdowns didn't affect people's access to booze either.

 

[Kingoglow]

1. Its nice to have the means and ability to do so, but you're speaking from a point of privilege there. Your paycheck may not be worth a single life but your own means to do so might. Yours.

2. This is absurd. Your lack of consuming alcohol does not make you a better individual. And I'd argue that the alcohol is secondary in the need to "rush out to bars" It's a social setting that alot of people were lacking. Alot of people's mental health and well being, especially if they say live alone was not well. Just a piece of society in a setting that's social is a respite. And to many is worth the risk clearly. Get off your pedestal. Our downfall will be our lack of solid politicians and policies. Not as you said our "addiction" to alcohol.

1) Lol. MY privilege?!? HA! Because I value life and wish to avoid harm to other's I am the target here? That is pretty crazy to believe that it is okay for people to die so you can make a buck.

2) Here you are just projecting. I never said that I don't drink. Your tirade might suggests that you do though, and it means the world to you.

We obviously have different values. I don't think that opening nonessential business so people can buy shoes is important. I don't think that that opening bars and restaurants (because it's a social think, right?) are needed when we all have phones. 122,900 Americans have died to COVID-19. That mean's a lot to me.

Let's agree to put each other on ignore.

 

[mickeymiss]

Didn't the WHO say that you shouldn't constantly touch the mask because of the risk of self-contamination? I guess Disney decided that the potential benefits outweigh the risks, but if you are outside and keeping a proper social distance, I doubt Disney is going to follow people to see that they are raising and lowering their mask between sips of water. I think most people will take the rules seriously and not try to circumvent them with silly games like this. Hopefully things will improve to the point that masks will be deemed unnecessary outside, where the risk is not as great.

I don’t know about you guys but I can’t walk and drink lol. Hopefully sitting on a quiet bench to drink would be allowed because this girl needs to over hydrate to stay alive in Florida lol. Keeping the mask fully off when drinking on a bench would never be questioned by staff in my opinion.

 

[legwand77]

I'm pretty sure the lockdowns didn't affect people's access to booze either.

actually increased access, lots of place you could get it delivered to your home, when you couldn't before.

 

[disneygeek90]

The precautions taken vary by store/restaurant/county. Im in Kissimmee, right outside the parks, home depot has security guards enforcing masks, other places do not. Registers had social distance markings and they wiped down surfaces after each customer. It was very well handled.

Interesting, which Home Depot? I went to the one on OBT on Monday and there was no one enforcing.

 

[GoofGoof]

I'll give you my take on what I've seen as an Orlando resident.

Restaurants- All employees wearing masks, distance markers typically in lobbies. Doors usually have some sort of warning regarding social distancing rules. Bar seating is now allowed but I'd say 75% of the chairs have been removed so it is spaced. Many tables are either unavailable or spaced out enough.
Retail Stores- Same signs on doors, checkout registers have plexiglass or some sort of barrier. Tape or markers on the ground if waiting to cash out. Masks technically required but I have yet to see any employee say anything to someone not wearing a mask. Disney Springs is the only area that I've had to wait to go into a store. I don't know if that's happening in other local areas but I haven't been around many other stores in general. I know for a time our grocery stores were limiting capacity.
Grocery- An employee is wiping down all cart handles. You do not have to take one. "One way" markers on the ground down the aisles, but people mess this up quite often (I'll admit I've caught myself a few times). For a while there was someone guiding people to a checkout number, almost like before boarding an attraction but last time I was there no one was helping which caused checkout lines to go back into the actual shopping aisles due to distancing.

There's still some people that will blatantly ignore masks and distancing but the parts I see are for the majority good. The problem areas are likely in the places that are less likely to enforce and practice restrictions and I've stayed clear of any bars and situations like that.

That sounds pretty good. My FIL is in Volusia County by the coast. He says he’s usually one of the only people in a mask at the grocery store and nobody wears them to the gym (including him). Doctors offices are very strict though. He did say the bars he has been to are mostly empty, but he’s hitting up places where the average patron is a member of AARP and the place draws its largest crowds on a Tuesday at 6PM for trivia night . His significant other lives in the Jacksonville area and he claims it’s worse up there, but I suspect some bias since he‘s not a huge fan of driving up there all the time.

 

[legwand77]

Bingo. We should have gone with the cautious opening strategy in March or at least April. Shutting down had an immediate detrimental effect. Walmart being open all along was a perfect example of how arbitrary a lot of it all was.

Walmart is a large store that technically sells essentials but is almost always a supplementary grocery store. I’ve never seen a Walmart where there isn’t also a grocery store. Did Walmart have to be open? Walmart was always busy too. Always. They did require masks and compliance varied. That massive store remaining open proved rather quickly that any retail store could be safely open. Many small stores in my area crumbled while big box stores thrived. Small businesses could have done the same mask rules and survived.

I wish more people would just follow the rules for now and make this easier but we’ve seen that there’s no perfect strategy. There never was. We were repeatedly told that covid would be waiting for us whenever we opened. That seems to be true. The key is that most of us can be spared by using precautions and that we strive to make sure hospitals maintain their resources.
I think the median age dropping in Florida indicates that at risk people are protecting themselves and hopefully very very few serious cases result from younger people catching it.

Walmart and grocery stores are contracted with the government to stay open in a natural disaster, pandemic, natural disaster, war etc.. They have to stay open. Walmart is the a grocery store for many people and in some communities the only grocery store. If Walmart closed down, epsecailly in some commmunites where it is the on ly store, it would have much much worse effect than this virus could do.

 

[Rider]

Florida records more than 5,000 coronavirus cases for 2nd day in a row, adds 46 more deaths

Florida saw a second day in a row with more than 5,000 reported positive coronavirus cases and another 46 reported deaths, according to the state Department of Health. The daily update that comes a…

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[carolina_yankee]

Fairly or unfairly, this is how Floridians look to the world right now:

'They want to throw God's wonderful breathing system out'

Before a vote on wearing of masks in public, Palm Beach commissioners were harangued by residents.

www.bbc.com

Its going to be an uphill battle to regain the world's trust enough to visit your state in the near future.

I have friends in a hot state who have said to me, “Jesus is my mask.” I’m a priest and I appreciate strong displays of faith, but that’s just not how this works.

wear masks. Socially distance. Wash your hands. Then you can do things. Don’t do that, and you can’t. It’s that simple.

 

[disneygeek90]

I don’t know about you guys but I can’t walk and drink lol. Hopefully sitting on a quiet bench to drink would be allowed because this girl needs to over hydrate to stay alive in Florida lol. Keeping the mask fully off when drinking on a bench would never be questioned by staff in my opinion.

That would be allowed, I've done it at Springs. It's more responsible than being maskless and walking around with a drink in your hand.

 

[legwand77]

Some here might be interested in what the Governor of Texas is about to do and what it might mean for Florida in the near-future if things keep trending.

If things keep trending as far as they have for hospitals in flordia overall that is good, because it has been flat , might even ticked down the past few days. eta hospital capacity trend

 

[legwand77]

That would be allowed, I've done it at Springs. It's more responsible than being maskless and walking around with a drink in your hand.

Like to see the science to back that up.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

actually increased access, lots of place you could get it delivered to your home, when you couldn't before.

a glimmer of a silver lining in this pandemic

 

[Hawg G]

A pretty good report that essentially proves many of the beliefs that masks aren’t the solution, and we aren’t all going to die. Barely anyone is dying just from Covid, especially if you are less than 80.

Covid 19 — What the Data Tells Us

The Punchline: We got it wrong and now we’re largely tracking it wrong...

medium.com

 

[GoofGoof]

I don’t know about you guys but I can’t walk and drink lol. Hopefully sitting on a quiet bench to drink would be allowed because this girl needs to over hydrate to stay alive in Florida lol. Keeping the mask fully off when drinking on a bench would never be questioned by staff in my opinion.

It won’t. If you are sitting somewhere and you are 6 feet away from someone its not an issue. At DS they have some food vendors without tables so they wanted to accommodate them so they allowed people to walk around and eat or drink. Think ice cream cone or Starbucks drink or Wetzels pretzel. They just asked people not to fully remove the face covering but pull it down, take a bite or sip and replace it. Very simple concept. What they are trying to avoid are people who grab a coffee at rope drop to hold, put their mask in their pocket and then walk around all day without it using the coffee as the excuse why. They won’t have CMs following people around, but it’s fairly easy to see someone walking for a long distance without the mask and without eating or drinking. For example, a CM at the carousel sees a guy turn the corner where Philharmagic is with no mask on holding a Starbucks cup. If he gets past the carousel without taking any sips the CM should step in and ask him to put the mask on. If you are sitting on a bench sipping on a bottle of water I doubt anyone will say anything.