Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Jenny72]

Around here, stores are pretty strict -- you have to wear a mask -- but they're also really accommodating. Want to drop things off at the door for repair, then pay over the phone and come pick it up from the door again? No problem. Want to order fresh produce and have it waiting for you with contactless curbside service? No problem. So things are really picking up again. So far cases are still going down (knock on wood). My impression is that this is how it works in a lot of countries that have controlled the spread. It's possible to keep business robust and still keep transmission low. I just wish we could do that everywhere.

Just saw the post above mine, so yes, I'm basically saying the same thing. We're doing it here and it's honestly not bad at all!

 

[wdwfan4ver]

3800 new cases today.. SHOULD DISNEY REOPEN.. ABSOLUTELY NOT.. and then you spread this all back to the states that you came from.. We all sat in the house until we " couldn't take it any more" . and then it got political instead of MEDICAL.. and now we are ready to turn this into something beyond belief .. when you put politics, like we did here in Wisconsin , or business like they are doing in Florida, before MEDICAL you are asking for a pandemic that has no controls.. how much higher do the numbers need to go for all of us to SAY STOP..

The problem is where are cases from. I do know T-Rex Cafe at Disney Springs is not helping matters. I read that one of the Employee are T-Rex Cafe worked an entire week after knowing that they tested positive for the coronavirus.

I am referring to this: https://blogmickey.com/2020/06/t-re...ests-positive-for-covid-19-at-disney-springs/

We don't know how many people were affected from T-Rex Cafe due to the actions of employee. The problem is people who ate there might be carriers of the disease know without knowing it due to the actions of one employee.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

that picture is from a study done by computer scientists, makes for a dramatic picture and demonstration but has a lot of issues as far a science and how it applies to Covid

Here’s the best thing I’ve seen on why masks are a must. I’m sure you will find something wrong with it but it’s science at its best.

 

[legwand77]

I don’t believe anyone here, on either side believes you can have zero cases. I have not heard one person say that. It’s a question of doing the right thing.
I admit, in the beginning there was a lot of do this , don’t do that being thrown around until we had a better understanding of what was going on. We still don’t but when looking at some countries,and some states on their responses, we can start to see some of the things that do work.
Countries and states that started very early with lockdowns and masks seem to have a pretty good control on things. Opening up in last phases or even past that with some restrictions in place is working. Others where it seemed like the Wild West with no set standard are , again, for the most part going up. I think reasonable people can see, whetythey like it or not it’s working.
I think you were the one praising Sweden if I’m not mistaken about 2 months going back and forth with a bunch of us on why they were doing it the right way.. not hurting economy.. death toll low. I think we can agree that wasn’t the way to go with the results of that.
We have a few months now of finding out what works best and for the life of me I can’t understand why everyone wouldn’t do it because it’s not that hard.

Sure but how many cases is your number for too many

 

[legwand77]

Here’s the best thing I’ve seen on why masks are a must. I’m sure you will find something wrong with it but it’s science at its best.

That is pretty much the same as the study the picture was from with the same problems , not going to be much help from covid, but could prevent larger non covid viruses from spreading. Not much scientific information in the video at all

 

[DisneyDebRob]

That is pretty much the same as the study the picture was from with the same problems , not going to be much help from covid, but could prevent larger non covid viruses from spreading. Not much scientific information in the video at all

Thought so. Thanks for confirming .

 

[disneygeek90]

Thought so. Thanks for confirming .

Yeah people want complete, fully fleshed out scientific studies on the effectiveness of masks for a novel virus months after it’s infected the entire globe. Much more important than just doing our job and wearing precautionary masks as a society while letting the scientists put their efforts to something actually useful like a vaccine, right?

 

[legwand77]

Yeah people want complete, fully fleshed out scientific studies on the effectiveness of masks for a novel virus months after its infected the entire globe. Much more important than just doing our job and wearing precautionary masks as a society while letting the scientists put their efforts to something actually useful like a vaccine, right?

Not at all, just not junk science, that is looks pretty but is not real in any sense. Ever wonder why there hasn’t been any real fully fleshed out studies proving that masks are effective, it has been four months. But there are full fleshed out studies that prove they are not, that I link earlier up thread, published by WHO and NIOSH.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

The Earth is flat. Debate me.

*someone posts evidence that the Earth is not flat*

I'm going to need more proof.

 

[legwand77]

The Earth is flat. Debate me.

*someone posts evidence that the Earth is not flat*

I'm going to need more proof.

Yes totally agree , very good point.

 

[DisneyCane]

Yeah people want complete, fully fleshed out scientific studies on the effectiveness of masks for a novel virus months after it’s infected the entire globe. Much more important than just doing our job and wearing precautionary masks as a society while letting the scientists put their efforts to something actually useful like a vaccine, right?

There are different types of scientists. Those in the vaccine R&D field are not the same as those who do droplet studies.

Nobody has done a study on potential negative effects of wearing a mask for long periods of time, especially while doing physical activity. There's a reason that the respirator masks designed for construction type work have a check valve so that exhaling doesn't require pushing the air back through the filter. I'm not claiming there is a definite issue but it is something that should be studied as well.

 

[disneygeek90]

There are different types of scientists. Those in the vaccine R&D field are not the same as those who do droplet studies.

Nobody has done a study on potential negative effects of wearing a mask for long periods of time, especially while doing physical activity. There's a reason that the respirator masks designed for construction type work have a check valve so that exhaling doesn't require pushing the air back through the filter. I'm not claiming there is a definite issue but it is something that should be studied as well.

What physical activity is insisting on wearing masks? There’s plenty of areas to rest at the parks if it’s bothering you, whether that be sitting at a table, walking into a store for ac, going into a show building or finding a rest area. I don’t really consider walking around a theme park all that similar to the exertion of construction work.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

There are different types of scientists. Those in the vaccine R&D field are not the same as those who do droplet studies.

Nobody has done a study on potential negative effects of wearing a mask for long periods of time, especially while doing physical activity. There's a reason that the respirator masks designed for construction type work have a check valve so that exhaling doesn't require pushing the air back through the filter. I'm not claiming there is a definite issue but it is something that should be studied as well.

What about surgeons who have long surgery procedures? Don't hear of them having medical problems, and they wear masks for a living.

 

[DisneyCane]

What physical activity is insisting on wearing masks? There’s plenty of areas to rest at the parks if it’s bothering you, whether that be sitting at a table, walking into a store for ac, going into a show building or finding a rest area. I don’t really consider walking around a theme park all that similar to the exertion of construction work.

Waking around? It could be unhealthy to be constantly inhaling a high concentration if exhaled air even if you are sitting. I'm not saying it definitely is but it isn't outside the realm of possibility. It should be studied.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Waking around? It could be unhealthy to be constantly inhaling a high concentration if exhaled air even if you are sitting. I'm not saying it definitely is but it isn't outside the realm of possibility. It should be studied.

It's not a thing. Let me see if I can find the link provided by a friend of mine who works in health-care.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Waking around? It could be unhealthy to be constantly inhaling a high concentration if exhaled air even if you are sitting. I'm not saying it definitely is but it isn't outside the realm of possibility. It should be studied.

Wearing A Mask To Reduce The Spread Of Coronavirus Will Not Give You Carbon Dioxide Poisoning

A new conspiracy theory suggests that wearing a mask can cause carbon dioxide toxicity. Here's why these claims are untrue.

www.forbes.com

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Waking around? It could be unhealthy to be constantly inhaling a high concentration if exhaled air even if you are sitting. I'm not saying it definitely is but it isn't outside the realm of possibility. It should be studied.

masks are not this new invention that came out of nowhere. Masks have been around since forever.

 

[Chomama]

I feel like debating people about masks is a waste of time. My image was not to show PROOF that masks are completely effective. We don’t have that kind of proof. What we do know for sure is that the can help. That should be enough in the middle of a pandemic. Wearing one is to protect the vulnerable not yourself. I have yet to read reports of people in Hong Kong - arguably the hottest and most humid place I have ever been (I also live in the Deep South) - passing out left and right from wearing a mask. But clearly there are quite a few people who just don’t want to believe that it is safe to wear them, that they could have long term side effects from wearing them that OUTWEIGH the long term effects of Covid on the person they may spread it to, and eventually just don’t care to accept this as part of our way forward. From an economic standpoint there are roughly 35% of Americans (I will find the article) that don’t feel comfortable returning to work, school or participating in the economy Without masks. That’s an argument to wear them. We need everyone to participate to recover. But, again, I waste my breath I am sure. I have had it with trying to help people accept the fact that this is a NOVEL disease so we just don’t know much. What we do have in our toolbox is physical distancing and masks. Neither is harmful. So why not just try it? Also, at the end of the day, I guess it just isn’t my job to explain to people why they should care about others.

 

[Chomama]

Waking around? It could be unhealthy to be constantly inhaling a high concentration if exhaled air even if you are sitting. I'm not saying it definitely is but it isn't outside the realm of possibility. It should be studied.

It has been. Surgeons wear them for HOURS at a time. They are fine. And we are talking about breathable cloth material for citizens walking into a store. It’s Just not dangerous

 

[lazyboy97o]

There are different types of scientists. Those in the vaccine R&D field are not the same as those who do droplet studies.

Nobody has done a study on potential negative effects of wearing a mask for long periods of time, especially while doing physical activity. There's a reason that the respirator masks designed for construction type work have a check valve so that exhaling doesn't require pushing the air back through the filter. I'm not claiming there is a definite issue but it is something that should be studied as well.

Stop pretending this is something new. We’d have seen the negatives years ago in Asia and somebody would have thought to see if correlation was causation. Different trades wear masks and face coverings of various types. Right now we’d see evidence in hospital patients who are now being required to wear masks.