Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[beertiki]

Nothing funnier to me than someone who says “I’ve been to the Bahamas” or “I’ve been to the Turks and Caicos” when the only place they’ve been is a port that looks nothing like the rest of the country on an otherwise mostly unvisited corner of an otherwise unvisited island.

Yes. Every port is the same. Cheap T shirts, Senor Frogs, emerald jewelry, and cattle tour boats.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Spending tourist dollars does not help FL Keys economy but helps the FL Keys locals? This makes absolutely no sense.

I was interested in that comment also and found this on first search.


The Port of Key West is amajor economic engine for the city and local businesses, resulting in an economicimpact annually of $85 million. The port provides 1,250 direct and indirect jobs to the 25,000 citizens of Key West, while contributing 15 percent of the city's total tax revenue.

https://flaports.org › ports › port-of-...
Port of Key West - Florida Ports Council

 

[Ravenclaw78]

Since the ships are registered with the Bahamas, then any Disney ship would have to touch a foreign port between U.S. ports. So a DCL leaving Canaveral or Miami would have to stop at their Bahamian island (or some other foreign port) before and after their stop at the Keys.

Merchant Marine Act of 1920 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You're actually wrong on both counts. First, the law that actually applies here is the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA); the Merchant Marine Act (aka Jones Act) only applies to cargo vessels. Second, foreign-flagged cruise ships sailing a round-trip from a US port need only stop at one foreign port, which can occur at any point in the itinerary.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Thanks for the update. There is a movie with Matt Damon from 2011 called Contagion that is exactly what's going on today.

I believe Matt Damon could play me along with a Brad Pitt Dr. Fauci.

 

[Leahbobeah]

Annual Passholders going to be in for a big shock. Call it a surprise but not one they’ll like.

Can you elaborate...?

 

[beertiki]

I was interested in that comment also and found this on first search.


The Port of Key West is amajor economic engine for the city and local businesses, resulting in an economicimpact annually of $85 million. The port provides 1,250 direct and indirect jobs to the 25,000 citizens of Key West, while contributing 15 percent of the city's total tax revenue.
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https://flaports.org › ports › port-of-...
Port of Key West - Florida Ports Council

The port is used by much more than just cruise ships.

https://www.cityofkeywest-fl.gov/egov/docs/1156864276_445343.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0-E0XG7mHxhpv6-EVS7sOkn8uf1kajUdRyxoO3Utt7R8xgyhk-IeY6sYA

If you read this study by the City of Key West you will see that the average cruise ship visitor spends less than $40 a day in Key West.

 

[Wngo905]

Annual Passholders going to be in for a big shock. Call it a surprise but not one they’ll like.

Can you elaborate...?

Sorry to disturb the above discussion about the Florida Keys, but to address the question related to Disney and the AP rumor, it is probably something along the lines of what posted yesterday morning here.

This is a rumor, I repeat a rumor. Seems they have a lot of details though. It’s a way to control things, I can see that but the amount of grief they will receive would be unreal.

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Okay back to the Keys.... LOL

 

[brianstl]

Nothing funnier to me than someone who says “I’ve been to the Bahamas” or “I’ve been to the Turks and Caicos” when the only place they’ve been is a port that looks nothing like the rest of the country on an otherwise mostly unvisited corner of an otherwise unvisited island.

I have been on two cruises and have never booked a cruise ship excursion. If you want to get a more real feel for the place you are porting get online and do research to plan your own time while you are in port. You get a much better options of things to do, more control over your limited time and they are almost always cheaper because you are cutting the cruise line out. Even if you want to do a certain excursion the ship offers book it on your own. One time when we ported in Cozumel we did the exact same XPLOR excursion as the cruise passengers and saved $150. Only difference was when we got off the ferry in Playa we had an extra hour to roam and shop in Playa before we had to be at our transit because we didn’t have to take part in the herding of the cruise ship passengers.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

The port is used by much more than just cruise ships.

https://www.cityofkeywest-fl.gov/egov/docs/1156864276_445343.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0-E0XG7mHxhpv6-EVS7sOkn8uf1kajUdRyxoO3Utt7R8xgyhk-IeY6sYA

If you read this study by the City of Key West you will see that the average cruise ship visitor spends less than $40 a day in Key West.

Not disputing anything you say. If you live down there you know much more then I do about it. That’s why I looked it up. Guessing you need more people off the ship to make a bigger impact. If 2000 people get off the ship and each spends 40 bucks, that’s a lot of money for just one ship. If it’s happening every day that’s a chunk of change. I do realize people stay on board, I never do, always exploring where I visit.
Anyway, back to Covid and Disney!

 

[Polynesia]

I have been on two cruises and have never booked a cruise ship excursion. If you want to get a more real feel for the place you are porting get online and do research to plan your own time while you are in port. You get a much better options of things to do, more control over your limited time and they are almost always cheaper because you are cutting the cruise line out. Even if you want to do a certain excursion the ship offers book it on your own. One time when we ported in Cozumel we did the exact same XPLOR excursion as the cruise passengers and saved $150. Only difference was when we got off the ferry in Playa we had an extra hour to roam and shop in Playa before we had to be at our transit because we didn’t have to take part in the herding of the cruise ship passengers.

I’ve done it both ways I’ve booked excursions and I’ve explored on my own. If you’re a first time cruiser I’d recommend booking an excursion. Seasoned cruisers know the ropes a bit more and can arrange their own day at the ports. The one advantage of booking an excursion through your ship is that they can’t leave without you if you’re delayed. If you’re on your own they won’t wait for you. I actually saw it happen once.

 

[UofMGuy423]

Maybe the Florida Keys debate deserves its own thread now?

 

[brianstl]

I’ve done it both ways I’ve booked excursions and I’ve explored on my own. If you’re a first time cruiser I’d recommend booking an excursion. Seasoned cruisers know the ropes a bit more and can arrange their own day at the ports. The one advantage of booking an excursion through your ship is that they can’t leave without you if you’re delayed. If you’re on your own they won’t wait for you. I actually saw it happen once.

The leaving without you part is true. It happened to someone on the first cruise I was on. That would be awful. The first cruise we went on was with my parents who were seasoned cruisers. So we had it drilled into our heads that we had to schedule anything we did to leave more than enough time to account for a possible delay on our return to port. It, also, helped that for the Cozumel stop that we had been to both Cozumel and Playa del Carmen before. So we were familiar the area. Once we did it for there it was like might as well do it for the next stop, too. Then a couple years later on the next cruise we didn’t even think about booking anything through the cruise line after comparing the prices. We took the money we saved and spent it shopping around the port or looked at it as extra money to blow in the casino.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Maybe the Florida Keys debate deserves its own thread now?

False. The off-topic discussion of the impact of Rona on theme parks needs to move to Chit Chat.

 

[HongKongFooy]

Yes. Every port is the same. Cheap T shirts, Senor Frogs, emerald jewelry,

I'd say that about sums it up.

 

[Lilofan]

Yes. Every port is the same. Cheap T shirts, Senor Frogs, emerald jewelry, and cattle tour boats.

And Cuban Cohiba cigars, which you can't get in the USA. Gotta love duty free shopping!

 

[ToTBellHop]

First week of June cancellations going out.

 

[Wngo905]

First week of June cancellations going out.

Oh here we go. I am June 6. Wonder if i get it or not?

edit: no email and still on MDE for Saturday...... but it is inevitable. Cause we wont wear a mask.

 

[Kevin_W]

First week of June cancellations going out.

My 5/23 AKl reservation is still showing in MDE, although FP+ have been cancelled for a while. (This was my daughters first time ever making FP selections for us, she was sad to lose them after her work!)

 

[wdwgreek]

Folks on Facebook disney groups are all saying they have received emails with their trips for the first two weeks in June being canceled. I had a trip scheduled for the third week of june and bumped it to August! I'm hearing from other folks in the company that a late summer early/ fall reopening is much more likely. Sigh. I'll wait ti July before pulling the trigger to re rebook

 

[DisneyDebRob]

My 5/23 AKl reservation is still showing in MDE, although FP+ have been cancelled for a while. (This was my daughters first time ever making FP selections for us, she was sad to lose them after her work!)

She will have another time to do them. Something to look forward too!