ImperfectPixie
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Yeah...it's a royal biotch to kick. I'm attempting for the umpteen millionth time in the next week or so.
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but again, why keep all salaried employees - I.e. the bosses of those they would supposedly let go? They make far more money, they aren’t unionized, and there wouldn’t be enough of them on the front lines for when that particular area reopened. They’d have to retrain and entire staff. It would make more sense to fire the salaried of area X - saves them some money when they reopen, and they aren’t unionized so they couldn’t fight for their job back - and then just transfer salaried people from various areas (just one per area) to fill the hole for that role. Leaders (for example) are always transferred around every few years anyway, and it’s still possible to run an area if you’re missing just 1-2 leaders.
And I’d like to see how the Unions would take the news if any union folk were fired while their non-unionized salaries or executive counterparts go to keep their jobs. No, I don’t think that would go over well.
I’m confident the hourly folk will just be furloughed as well. Today, at least.
I will fully admit, however, that long term, no one is safe. Maybe I didn’t make that clear, because I definitely agree with you there. But cuts would be made to salaried and no -union roles first, I think. I mean I could be wrong. But that’s what makes sense in my pea brain unless someone with more knowledge could explain why doing the opposite would make more sense.
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phillip9698
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Comcast seems to be getting their money either way. You want their internet without cable, ok you pay a premium. You want their cable without internet, ok you pay a premium. You have to have both to get a decent price on either.
FullSailDan
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Continuity of operations, leaders are harder to train.
Theoretically you can work a salaried person harder without paying more.
It will be much easier to higher lower wage workers if needed upon re-opening.
Keep in mind, many of these salaried employees are not really making bank here. In 2005 a new front desk manager made just about 30K a year. Given most of Disney's leadership teams in the parks is paid based on level, it should be pretty close everywhere. I don't imagine they've seen a large pay increase relative to hourly since then. That was about 1.5 times the cost of a full time hourly employee. So laying off the salaried folks, wouldn't save a lot of hourly guys.
JoeCamel
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That won't last much longer. Frontier bought Verizon's Fios service in this area about 6 years ago and only offered a bundle. This year they unbundled so I now have Fios/Frontier internet and over the air TV from my own antenna for less than I paid Spectrum for internet and it is faster. The days of bundles only for a good price are over.
5G will change the profit margins on internet. Yes, parts of the US will not have 5G but for 80% of us we will and as a result will play less and the ISPs will make less. Competition is great for the consumer.
DisneyDebRob
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We just cut the cord and actually got a decent price from Comcast with just internet and local stations. Saving a hundred and 20 bucks a month. Is a hundred and 20 bucks still expensive for that? Probably but right now it works for us.
JoeCamel
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When I live in a place with 5G I will know I am living in the wrong place. I just did 8 months mostly in Orlando and couldn't wait to get back out here. Your traffic is absurd.
GoofGoof
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As a fellow DVC owner I would also be glad to continue paying my normal dues so the CMs could get paid. The big issue at many of the resorts is there are both hotel rooms and DVC rooms and they share workers. It may be difficult to separate the DVC CMs vs the hotel ones. The other issue is they are still keeping a skeleton crew to do security, maintenance and landscaping so those people are still getting paid. Things like housekeeping, front desk, bell services and recreation staff are probably all off at this point. The employees are also furloughed not laid off so they still get benefits which are paid out of our dues. It’s possible we will see a dip in dues from this, but they have the ability to instead put that excess into the capital reserves account for later use. I would assume that’s what they will do since it should be a 1 year dip (God willing).
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GoofGoof
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If you can’t have more than 2 people together does that mean I can send my kids somewhere else so someone other than me can deal with this home school crap?"Vietnam has banned public gatherings of more than two people. Hong Kong has closed nightclubs, karaoke bars and mah-jongg parlors, and deployed health inspectors to check that restaurants are seating parties at least six feet apart. Singapore on Friday said that schools and nonessential businesses would close for a month, a sweeping shutdown it had avoided until now."
Asian countries impose new restrictions as coronavirus cases come roaring back
After appearing to have the virus under control, Singapore, Vietnam and Hong Kong are imposing new controls as COVID-19 infections continue to rise.www.latimes.com
DisneyDebRob
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I have absolutely no problem paying my dues either. If it’s helping someone collect a salary it’s fine with me.
Gitson Shiggles
There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
(Somewhat in jest) WDW is never reopening.
www.forbes.com
Why You Should Flush With The Lid Down: Experts Warn Of Fecal-Oral Transmission Of COVID-19
80% of particle transmission can be prevented by shutting the lid when flushing.
www.forbes.com
Too bad the theme parks toilets don't have to a toilet lid.(Somewhat in jest) WDW is never reopening.
Why You Should Flush With The Lid Down: Experts Warn Of Fecal-Oral Transmission Of COVID-19
80% of particle transmission can be prevented by shutting the lid when flushing.
It’s okay, he’s not scaring me. I mean, we’re fully aware my husband could lose his job any time between now and when the park reopens. Our heads aren’t in the sand. But he also has a side trade, so he would just do that full-time if he lost his Disney job. I’m more worried over the economy as a whole than I am my husband’s job. If we end up in a depression, we’re all gonna be screwed.
21stamps
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Kings Island shared an IG post showing a ride being painted, currently.
If a Cedar Fair park still has maintenance going on, I can’t be certain, but I would think that WDW would as well.
That’s why he said that Disney was never reopening.
Good points. When some of the staff do lose their jobs for different business reasons and executives still are employed that's really a normal thing. There will be critics of this of course. The direction Disney was headed in furlough wise was when the executives took a 20-30% pay cut. After all said and done not all of them ( that includes all levels) will be kept on when eventually restructuring of operations is finished. It's just logical.but again, why keep all salaried employees - I.e. the bosses of those they would supposedly let go? They make far more money, they aren’t unionized, and there wouldn’t be enough of them on the front lines for when that particular area reopened. They’d have to retrain and entire staff. It would make more sense to fire the salaried of area X - saves them some money when they reopen, and they aren’t unionized so they couldn’t fight for their job back - and then just transfer salaried people from various areas (just one per area) to fill the hole for that role. Leaders (for example) are always transferred around every few years anyway, and it’s still possible to run an area if you’re missing just 1-2 leaders.
And I’d like to see how the Unions would take the news if any union folk were fired while their non-unionized salaries or executive counterparts go to keep their jobs. No, I don’t think that would go over well.
I’m confident the hourly folk will just be furloughed as well. Today, at least.
I will fully admit, however, that long term, no one is safe. Maybe I didn’t make that clear, because I definitely agree with you there. But cuts would be made to salaried and no -union roles first, I think. I mean I could be wrong. But that’s what makes sense in my pea brain unless someone with more knowledge could explain why doing the opposite would make more sense.
21stamps
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Same. My lawn service was here a few days ago. Fertilized and mowed. I hope most states kept them as essential.
Actually the water pressure in the theme park toilets is quite strong and I've been "misted" a few times.That’s why he said that Disney was never reopening.
monykalyn
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Oh good gravy it’s pretty well known strong flushing lidless toilets do this. You’d think CV19 is the ONLY pathogen EVER anywhere to cause issues by the way media breathlessly hypes each “new” discovery(Somewhat in jest) WDW is never reopening.
Why You Should Flush With The Lid Down: Experts Warn Of Fecal-Oral Transmission Of COVID-19
80% of particle transmission can be prevented by shutting the lid when flushing.
There should be an announcement soon of Mayo Clinic coordinating clinical trial of treatment for CV19 using recovered patient plasma. DH oldest daughter is involved with helping set it up, registries etc. she’s been working 18 hour days.
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