orlandogal22
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I dont recall off hand. I haven't really spoken to them since they hauled off
I didn't even know any were open to people just strolling in exploring at the moment. That's news to me.
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I didn't even know any were open to people just strolling in exploring at the moment. That's news to me.
21stamps
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Fixed it.
orlandogal22
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Indeed.
Ok, see. That’s what happened the last time I suggested it. At least now, you’re here for it. So what do you want? Enforcement or common sense? I see, the latter. Enjoy the common sense.
21stamps
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Local police enforcement of group gatherings is a bit different from martial law.
Is this saying we will peak mid April?This is a nice website that shows updated models based on when states began lockdowns etc - and tries to provide info on what date resource use will peak. The doom and gloom worst case scenarios don't look like they will pan out (due to lockdowns being implemented) - but some states are in better conditions than others. For example, New York is in a much worse position than Florida or Illinois will ever be in. Michigan is somewhere in between. Either way, I don't think we will run out of ventilators (but beds and staffing are still a concern in certain hotspots.)
IHME | COVID-19 Projections
Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.covid19.healthdata.org
The problem isn't diseased New Yorkers descending on rural counties like roving bands of zombies.
The problem is someone from those rural counties heading into a hot spot and coming back. No one in rural counties goes into 'the city' for an appointment with a professional? Work in 'the city'? Shop for items or food not found locally? Visit a family member in Miami, Orlando, or Tampa and then come back home? None of your families went to WDW the last week it was open where the virus was spreading? None of your young adults went looking for love at the spring break beaches and are now back in your community?
Unless you had road blocks at the county limits for the past month, it's naive to think the virus ain't in your rural town incubating.
Of course, all these precautions based on probability would be moot if we had widely available testing. Then you'd know for sure your county was free from CV.
21stamps
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Things would be so much better if we had more data.
Let’s look at Key West, Florida, or any other Keys... they kicked out the tourists, they basically walled themselves off... but they did after many other areas had already issued strict warnings. Why isn’t there an outbreak in a place like that? All of the tourists from so many different areas of the country, all pushed into a small geographic area with locals... shouldn’t they be overwhelmed by coronavirus cases right now?
There are so many questions that just can’t be answered at this point.
Let’s look at Key West, Florida, or any other Keys... they kicked out the tourists, they basically walled themselves off... but they did after many other areas had already issued strict warnings. Why isn’t there an outbreak in a place like that? All of the tourists from so many different areas of the country, all pushed into a small geographic area with locals... shouldn’t they be overwhelmed by coronavirus cases right now?
There are so many questions that just can’t be answered at this point.
WallyWorld
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Too many are all for the restrictions/ rules.....until they impact them. That's why this is going to be prolonged.
Well, Cedar Key is over an hour from Gainesville so there's not a lot of major, very frequent travel going between the two - and that's the largest city and in a different county (Alachua) than Levy.
Leon County (Tallahassee) which is north of Wakulla currently has 14 cases (and also is where FSU is), but you've also got Jefferson, Taylor, Madison, Dixie, Gilchrist, Hamilton, Liberty, and Franklin counties...to name a few... that are around these particular areas with 0 cases.
Of course, you're always going to have people who traveled before all this started.
But, IDK, you guys are the experts.Should we shut down all those counties currently with 0? Or practice a wait-and-see approach?
Every place that waited has wound up with the beginning of pandemic growth.
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Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
And more importantly......have contributed to the spread.
taylorroome
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The US as a whole, yes. My state, New York, is expected to peak earlier (April 6) and Florida not until later (mid-May).
orlandogal22
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I sure hope not w/ re: the counties I specifically referenced.
I'm trying my hardest to stay optimistic in these trying times while concurrently being REALISTIC as to keeping things going (i.e. businesses) as long as possible in areas that are currently doing OK.
Again, being on these boards 24x7 will not help that mindset.
21stamps
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How do you explain Monroe County, Florida?
I just posted about it.. anyone care to address? I’m genuinely curious. Could it be that the virus has just not yet become full fledged in affected people, so they don’t know, and will face a crisis in a week or two?
Sorry I can't give you more hopeful news. But remoteness is not the same as isolation or quarantine in such a mobile society. Check out places in the U.S. one would think would be protected because of how remote they are...
Watch How the Coronavirus Spread Across the United States (Published 2020)
It’s been two months since the first confirmed case was reported in the United States. As testing expanded and the virus spread, the number of new cases has multiplied at a rapid pace.
Looks like at least at mid summer opening at the very least for WDW.
Polynesia
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It is confusing how heavily traveled tourist areas are not seeing the high cases. I’m in Osceola and orange is also shut down. But you’d think hundreds if not thousands of cast members would be sick in these counties. As you say, with people from all over the world Disney should have been the first hot spot in Florida. I still believe many here have already had it in late January and February, cast members included.
orlandogal22
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Sorry I can't give you more hopeful news. But remoteness is not the same as isolation or quarantine in such a mobile society. Check out places in the U.S. one would think would be protected because of how remote they are...
Watch How the Coronavirus Spread Across the United States (Published 2020)
It’s been two months since the first confirmed case was reported in the United States. As testing expanded and the virus spread, the number of new cases has multiplied at a rapid pace.www.nytimes.com
And others just said that people don't obey the quarantines, another showed an example of friends not obeying the lockdown in place, and another was basically suggesting martial law.
We could go round in circles, and unless you've got someone stationed outside your door and accompanying you to the grocery store (or anywhere else) and that place only, you're going to have things / people / behaviors slip through the cracks.
This virus was here long before Jan., Feb., and / or even mid-March when all this stuff started ramping up.
I don't think any of us have the definitive answers (nor are any of us the power to enact those decisions).
orlandogal22
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I agree. I am in Seminole and a former CM. I am very concerned for our health AND our local economy and my friends in the tourism / hospitality / restaurant industry across all three major theme parks at the moment whose jobs are either gone or in limbo.
Which is one of the reasons why I am attempting to explain why OTHER less-trafficked counties that may be at 0 at the moment (and may very well stay at 0 or under 5-10 cases!) STAY OPEN for business as long as safely possible to help their local economies.
One can be concerned for both at the same time.
easyrowrdw
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I believe there are already travel restrictions for anyone coming from NY to my state. I'm 1,800 miles from NYC so planes are likely the only option. So, yes.
As I said, we've been distancing for weeks and are at home for at least a couple more weeks. It seems to be working. And if places worse off are staying restricted, then they wouldn't be traveling here anyway.
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