Let me know where I have advocated for lifting restrictions on NYC. Or any area for that matter.
I have consistently been of the opinion that solutions are not going to be a one sized fit all for every area of the country. The experts should be able to use data to get an understanding of what recommendations should be for each specific area, given that the virus does not spread in the same way everywhere.
The one thing they would need to do to make this work is to lock down travel to/from areas. As long as an area is not impacted now they should be OK not being locked down assuming nobody leaves and goes anywhere more infected and nobody who is from a hot spot travels to that area. Probably works for a farm town in Iowa but not for areas that are suburbs of urban centers or places people tend to travel to frequently. That’s why many counties in PA are locked down but not the whole state. The middle of the state is rural and pretty disconnected. I would say a good rule of thumb would be lock down any urban centers and areas within 150 to 200 miles of them.Emotions can not override facts and logic.
NYC is a crowded city, people shoulder to should often.. some farm town in Idaho may have a house every mile apart.
There is not a one size fits all for this country.
So, what about all of the commuter areas? Look at their numbers. Leave the rest of the country to itself, since the virus won’t travel.
I imagine population density and travel are a couple variables to consider. And probably a multitude of others.
So, what about all of the commuter areas? Look at their numbers. Leave the rest of the country to itself, since the virus won’t travel.
I agree with this, but in addition they need to lock down travel between states and/or counties.I imagine population density and travel are a couple variables to consider. And probably a multitude of others.
I agree with this, but in addition they need to lock down travel between states and/or counties.
Issue is that IS the solution , the powers that be do not see it that way for now until the infection numbers and deaths increase...I agree with this, but in addition they need to lock down travel between states and/or counties.
I agree with this, but in addition they need to lock down travel between states and/or counties.
Shallow you may think in a blind outlook until something happens close to home...
Its not going to be a perfect system for everyone. They could make exceptions for work if its a necessary job. If you are going to keep some areas open and lock down others that’s not going to work if people can travel between areas.I work in a different county and state than where I live. I do some grocery shopping in an entirely different country from the two previously mentioned. There will not be lockdown between all counties, that’s just as bad as saying we need a blanket national order.
Its not going to be a perfect system for everyone. They could make exceptions for work if its a necessary job. If you are going to keep some areas open and lock down others that’s not going to work if people can travel between areas.
Wow im sorryMy gauge a few weeks back was okay: I don't know any one that has it.
Now - I know people that have it. And there are people that I've met previously that have died from it. I do business in Europe. -- UK, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany. It's very, very sad.
It’s just not realistic everywhere. I live in Warren County, Ohio.. I am literally 10 minutes away from 2 other counties. Add another 5 minutes and I could be in 2 more either direction.
In Florida, I lived the bulk of my time in south Palm Beach County, my Target was in Broward County, maybe 2 miles away.
What if people from NYC started coming to your area to go to restaurants, visit your hospitals etc. would you be able to keep them out of your state or enforce selective quarantine on them?Unless things get demonstrably worse during that time, why can't restrictions be lifted here? That's not an option for NY, but why can't it be for the less impacted areas?
If the 2 counties are “clean” and they border each other no problem to travel between. If not then no travel.It’s just not realistic everywhere. I live in Warren County, Ohio.. I am literally 10 minutes away from 2 other counties. Add another 5 minutes and I could be in 2 more either direction.
In Florida, I lived the bulk of my time in south Palm Beach County, my Target was in Broward County, maybe 2 miles away. When I lived farther north in PBC, then it I was a bit farther away from county lines.. but the reality it, you’ll have several people who live on borders.
Let individual counties or cities be the ones to make that determination.
Here’s a map of current PA cases:
Many of the counties in the middle northern part of the state have 0 to 3 cases. If the wanted to keep these areas open without a lockdown you need to ensure that nobody from there ventures down to Pittsburgh or Philly or their surrounding counties. If you leave travel open these counties will eventually be hit. There’s no reason to lock them down if you could restrict all travel. Easier said then done which is why some states have just done the whole state.
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