Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Surferboy567]

I would like to throw my hat into the ring.

I’ve seen some very interesting stories about Disney over the past couple of hours that I wanted to share. These are RUMORS so please treat them as such. I have no insider information...but I’ve heard these and I think are super important so without further ado...

1.) Disney wants to release Mulan AND Black Widow on streaming.

You may ask Surferboy that sounds nuts why would they want to release their 1 billon dollar movie to the public. Apparently and this is a RUMOR but sounds plausible otherwise I wouldn’t share Disney is scared that this can last a very long time. The current thought process is that even when this stops people will be hesitant to go to the movies. That means the movies will not make what they will need to for the studio. Apparently Onward, has done well on itunes (now I don’t how true that is but sounds plausible) so Disney is so in need of funds they will release these on iTunes and get some extra funds to get them though this. It would also make Disney an industry leader in making this action. Another thing, in order to not burn bridges with movie theaters they would probably cut them in on the profit and would make that clear to the consumers that you are supporting businesses.

2.) Disney is scared of a hostile takeover

Kinda goes with #1 but apparently they are scared that as the stock could drop even more other parties could come in and take over.

3.) This doesn’t have to do with Disney...as someone who is in one of the effected areas that Trump has mentioned. You don’t want martial law...I’m terrified of that prospect. I’m not sure that would actually happen if this was declared. I also don’t know what you could do here though to tighten up the spread. Closing essential businesses WILL lead to mass chaos and hysteria.


Oh, and like I said #1, #2 are RUMORS so please, take them with a grain of salt.

 

[21stamps]

Total cases for Monroe county (Keys) is 18 with 4 in hospital. Too late.

Luck that none of the seed cases went to the keys? Outdoor activities where spread probably doesn't happen unless you are really close to people or hugging/kissing or sharing drinking glasses/bottles? Maybe bars/restaurants with open doors and windows (it's been so long since I've been around the keys that I can't remember what the bars/restaurants do when the weather is nice) providing enough airflow that the virus gets disbursed?

As for the lack of CMs getting it, part could be the same luck of seed cases just not being at the parks. Also, CMs don't really spend much time in close proximity to the same person in most cases. Maybe CMs are grossed out by the stuff they see and wash their hands a lot normally?

Let me provide clarification on the current cases-

13 are travel related. Based on everything we think we know about this virus, wouldn’t/shouldn’t there be more cases of community spread due to tourists??

March is insanely crowded in the Keys,, especially the bars. Even walking down Duval St in the middle of the day, you’ll be sidestepping to get around someone. Does the fresh air help contain it? Was it not widespread a month ago or 10 days ago?
I don’t know, but I’d like to know.

 

[seascape]

The biggest mistake Italy made was telling those the nother that they werre going to be quarantined in a few days. As a result it spend the disease all over Italy. Mayor de Blasio did the same thing in New York City and as a result all the rich New Yorkers left the city spreading the disease to Long Island, New Jersey, Florida and elsewhere.

 

[GoofGoof]

That's nothing new.

But, again, how do you stop the interstate?

Block up all the trucks bringing supplies to Florida to replenish gas, grocery inventory, big box store inventory, etc. with police checkpoints that cause backups that stretch for miles and miles?

No. You can’t stop it. Blocking people from NY/NJ/CT from getting into Florida isn’t very practical to enforce. It felt a lot like a political stunt when that was first announced. I haven’t seen any reports of anything actually being done.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Luck that none of the seed cases went to the keys? Outdoor activities where spread probably doesn't happen unless you are really close to people or hugging/kissing or sharing drinking glasses/bottles?

It's the Keys. Think of Logan County (Hatfields and McCoys). What do you think would happen if one Hatfield got it. I'll tell you. All the McCoys would have it too.

 

[Timmay]

No. Tell me. I'd think the most life threatening would be treated first. Unless of course all equipment and personnel were tied up elsewhere.

Correct. And medium to lager size ED’s have dedicated rooms and even sometimes staff for trauma, cardiac, medical, ortho, etc. type emergencies. Yes, an ED can get overwhelmed by this, but they have procedures and processes for being overwhelmed...from diverting patients to other facilities to activating other systems. And many ED’s specialize in different issues...trauma centers, cardiac, neurological, and so on. At the end of the day, there are only so many resources to go around, even out in the field. At some point, most healthcare professionals are faced with a mass causality incident (MCI) where very quick decisions have to be made about who gets treated right away, who can wait, and who there is nothing anything can be done for. Even EMT’s learn that very early on.

Seriously ill or injured patients aren’t going to be left out.

 

[Polynesia]

Luck that none of the seed cases went to the keys? Outdoor activities where spread probably doesn't happen unless you are really close to people or hugging/kissing or sharing drinking glasses/bottles? Maybe bars/restaurants with open doors and windows (it's been so long since I've been around the keys that I can't remember what the bars/restaurants do when the weather is nice) providing enough airflow that the virus gets disbursed?

As for the lack of CMs getting it, part could be the same luck of seed cases just not being at the parks. Also, CMs don't really spend much time in close proximity to the same person in most cases. Maybe CMs are grossed out by the stuff they see and wash their hands a lot normally?

Cast members have very close guest contact. If guests are coughing they’re in the line of fire. Guests touch everything and so do the cast. They’re not allowed to just go wash their hands constantly. They now have sanitation stations but that’s very recent. If this virus is so contagious hundreds of cast should already have it. It is very strange.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Correct. And medium to lager size ED’s have dedicated rooms and even sometimes staff for trauma, cardiac, medical, ortho, etc. type emergencies. Yes, an ED can get overwhelmed by this, but they have procedures and processes for being overwhelmed...from diverting patients to other facilities to activating other systems. And many ED’s specialize in different issues...trauma centers, cardiac, neurological, and so on. At the end of the day, there are only so many resources to go around, even out in the field. At some point, most healthcare professionals are fast with a mass causality incident (MCI) where very quick decisions have to be made about who gets treated right away, who can wait, and who there is nothing anything can be done for. Even EMT’s learn that very early on.

Seriously ill or injured patients aren’t going to be left out.

Yes. And I'm sure that is the process (procedure) for regular operations. This isn't exactly regular. Have you seen the video from Spain where Corona patients were sleeping and dying in the waiting rooms of hospitals? If not I can share it.

Disasters have a way of mucking up procedures.

 

[Lilofan]

And block up all the trucks bringing supplies to Florida to replenish gas, grocery inventory, big box store inventory, etc. with police checkpoints that stretch for miles and miles?

The logistics are not that simple.

And the quarantine of NY direct flights to FL sounded good, may stop some of the spread but most tourists arrive by car to FL

 

[Polynesia]

No. You can’t stop it. Blocking people from NY/NJ/CT from getting into Florida isn’t very practical to enforce. It felt a lot like a political stunt when that was first announced. I haven’t seen any reports of anything actually being done.

I’ve seen it on tv at the airports where those people are being pulled aside. And the flights have decreased from those states. It definitely wasn’t a political stunt.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Are some of you legitimately on here for most - if not all - of your day? Isn't it utterly exhausting?
Doesn't it drain you mentally to hash out things over and over again?

(I'm not being facetious.)

I'm in quarantine. I've washed my car more than I've driven it. Mowed the lawn twice in a week. My wife even gave me a list of things to do - that I finished in three hours.

Next question.

 

[orlandogal22]

I'm in quarantine. I've washed my car more than I've driven it. Mowed the lawn twice in a week. My wife even gave me a list of things to do - that I finished in three hours.

Next question.

Thanks for the answer. Your snark is noted too!

 

[DCBaker]

And no one thought of tourists arriving in FL via I-95 South ?

Now they are...

 

[GoofGoof]

I’ve seen it on tv at the airports where those people are being pulled aside. And the flights have decreased from those states. It definitely wasn’t a political stunt.

Pulled aside and taken where? Is there a quarantine center or military base they are taken to?

 

[Patcheslee]

Just a small update about my father "potentially" being exposed, luckily the doctor looked into and contacted the facility in question and it was clarrified the 14 day lockdown was a precaution to monitor current patients and staff for COVID-19, none have symptoms. He is still scheduled for his lung surgery at this point because it is required. The only thing that may delay or cancel it is hospital ICU and ventilator availability leading up to April 7th because he will require one for up to a week of the procedure. It's scheduled for an Indianapolis area hospital so hopefully they aren't overwhelmed before then.
Definitely nerve wracking knowing the current outbreak is effecting how even needed surgeries are being handled.

 

[Timmay]

Yes. And I'm sure that is the process (procedure) for regular operations. This isn't exactly regular. Have you seen the video from Spain where Corona patients were sleeping and dying in the waiting rooms of hospitals? If not I can share it.

Disasters have a way of mucking up procedures.

That’s why hospitals have regulations for having emergency plans in place for events. It’s actually what I do for a living. Evaluate and test healthcare facilities emergency preparedness. So no, it’s not for regular operations, at all.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Just a small update about my father "potentially" being exposed, luckily the doctor looked into and contacted the facility in question and it was clarrified the 14 day lockdown was a precaution to monitor current patients and staff for COVID-19, none have symptoms. He is still scheduled for his lung surgery at this point because it is required. The only thing that may delay or cancel it is hospital ICU and ventilator availability leading up to April 7th because he will require one for up to a week of the procedure. It's scheduled for an Indianapolis area hospital so hopefully they aren't overwhelmed before then.
Definitely nerve wracking knowing the current outbreak is effecting how even needed surgeries are being handled.

Prayers.

 

[easyrowrdw]

From a Washington Post article,

"Very rural areas have a 60 percent higher death rate from flu than the big metro areas, according to analysis of CDC death records. "

In terms of raw numbers, yes, a rural location is not going to see the numbers that NYC will have. But rural areas have their own set of problems. Many hospitals in rural hospitals have closed, as for-profit companies have deemed them unnecessary. In normal times, you would just transfer patients to the city for treatment. This is where looking at the flu stats can be helpful. Identify, the potential trouble ares, which includes the rural ares due to resources available and age of the population. And for this, IMO, the population of rural areas perhaps more likely to have underestimated this outbreak because they don't live in a high density area. So they were continuing to congregate longer than it was safe to do so. Each of us, can look at our state and see that most counties have cases. So how do you handle a small town that has an outbreak of 30 senior citizens when the local hospital has 2 ICU beds, or the nearest hospital is in a large community that is 3 hours away, but is overwhelmed? The media will likely continue to be enamored with NYC, NO, and other big cities. We'll get big headlines with 500 die in 24 hours, 1000 people die in 24 hours. The deaths that comes in 5s, 10s and 20s won't make their radar, except hidden in the national totals that will grow larger than we can imagine because we aren't thinking about the drips and dribbles that are happening everywhere.

So to answer the first quoted post. You're assuming that there will be "less impacted" areas. Many, many places will be overwhelmed...on a per capita basis. It won't be anymore safe to open up a farm town if their resources are overwhelmed even if it's a minuscule amount as compared to NYC. The areas with truly less impact, are likely going to be too much of a patchwork to organize anything even at a state level, for awhile.

You make good points about limited resources in rural areas. But I wasn't talking about just rural areas, for what it's worth. I live in a big city with relatively few cases. The hospitals aren't overwhelmed, but they're preparing for big jumps in cases should they come. And we've been distancing for some time now. This is the situation in many parts of Texas.

I'm not assuming some places will be less impacted; there are places less impacted (infected). I know it's not over yet. But if the preventative measures do what they're supposed to, then it seems like it should largely stay that way.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

That’s why hospitals have regulations for having emergency plans in place for events. It’s actually what I do for a living. Evaluate and test healthcare facilities emergency preparedness. So no, it’s not for regular operations, at all.

Does Spain pass or fail?

 

[DCBaker]

"Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez on Saturday announced stricter lockdown measures that will force all non-essential workers to stay at home for the next two weeks, as the government reported 832 new coronavirus deaths overnight."


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain/spanish-pm-announces-stricter-lockdown-measures-to-tackle-coronavirus-idUSKBN21F0NR