Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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DCBaker

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Rright now, WH and Treasury Secretary is talking about sending checks directly to the American people to provide relief. Like, within the next couple weeks...

The reports coming out now after the meeting suggests they won't be coming out until the end of April, if they actually do it.

"Headline out of this closed lunch, so far is that Steven Mnuchin doesn’t expects checks to go out before END OF APRIL, he told republicans, per multiple sources in the room."
 

21stamps

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Yeah, I think the baseball thing is a huge mistake. The quarantine clock starts for everyone only when the casual contact ceases. The sooner we try to lock down as much as possible the sooner the economy can recover. Youth sports is a total breeding ground for this thing.

Our family is limiting our outdoor time to backyard play and bike rides on relatively isolated trails. My wife and I are fortunate that one of us is in between work projects (and works mostly from home anyway) and the other is off this week for spring break. Lots of video games and Disney+ for us and the kids, but no playdates and no visits with the grandparents.

Not everyone can self-isolate but anyone who can definitely should for everyone's benefit.

The only thing I can guess about club baseball is that they figure the players and spectators are more spread out than sports like soccer and lacrosse.

It’s a mistake nationally on so many levels. All the kids who play on “A” teams for school, who don’t play travel baseball because they play travel soccer...but may eventually make the switch.. they’re going to fall so far behind the club kids.

Soccer was across the board.. from travel to rec leagues.

An organization should make one rule for all.
 

Shouldigo12

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It's a matter of math and geography. We're talking here about a mom offering babysitting to a few families on her street. So maybe she takes in 4 kids. So, five families in regular contact. Of those working, as long as they practice social distancing while on the job, they should be okay as long as others are following them too.

With play dates, say you've got 10 friends who you have play dates with. And they have 9 other friends they have play dates with. Etc. etc. The net gets wider and wider and isn't limited geographically.
Plus, the difference between necessary and unnecessary contact. Child care is necessary, just like being able to go to the grocery. Play dates, sports practices....these are not necessary.
 

HongKongFooy

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Makati is nice and and there are some good hospitals in Makati in Metro Manila

Makati Medical(in Makati) and St Luke's(in BGC of Taguig and Quezon City ) are reputable, at least for Philippine standards.

Anyway, Corona is in country and automatic rifle wielding military and police checkpoints are even at the barangay(think neighborhood or very small zip code) level monitoring any movement.
 

DANDAMAN1

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So...not Florida bans beach groups over 10, San Francisco is on lockdown, and here in Texas. Schools have extended their closures to April 3rd. Think WDW will extend their closure?
 

tallica

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The site-that-shall-not-be-named says Landry's has fired their entire staff. Feels entirely callous.

Always wanted to try Yak & Yeti; looks like I've got no reason to now on our next trip, even if they do still exist.
Not saying this is the case with Landry's. My cousin does business with restaurants in Minneapolis and knows many of their owners. Many have decided to let their staff go immediately in order for them to receive unemployment ASAP.
 

21stamps

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If you really want to stop the virus you can't allow these kids to come together like this. Last report I saw said as many as 86% of people with the virus are asymptomatic which means that there would be a good chance that one player on a team would be infected and then it would result in infecting all the other players and then their families. While the 86% asymptomatic means that the mortality rate isn't really 3% but is closer to 0.5%... that is still more risk than you have with the flu so it should still be taken seriously.

I don’t think most areas are allowing it, mine is not allowing it for the most part.. that’s why I was curious. So far club baseball is the only sport that I haven’t seen come to a screeching halt.
Not sure how all areas are handling it though.
 

Rimmit

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Makati Medical(in Makati) and St Luke's(in BGC of Taguig and Quezon City ) are reputable, at least for Philippine standards.

Anyway, Corona is in country and automatic rifle wielding military and police checkpoints are even at the barangay(think neighborhood or very small zip code) level monitoring any movement.

Makati Med is very good. That’s where most of my family goes. Many are in the med field primarily graduating from UST (including my father) for med school and they all like Makati Med. However, the Philippines is a country that has a massive divide between the haves and have nots unfortunately.

There is a reason cruise ships crews are primarily Filipino.
 

thomas998

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Casino's want a bail out now. Nobody bailed me out when I lost 10k at the Venetian.
Well the problem with some of the casinos is that they are on the hook to pay the states they operate in a set amount of money, if they are forced to close for business it doesn't remove that payment to the state. If you want them to go bankrupt then do nothing, but at the very least the states that have these agreements with the casinos need to stop collecting those payments... At least that is how it works with many of the Indian casinos... If you are talking only about Vegas casinos I'm not sure how they are structure with Nevada.

Frankly every company that can come up with a sob story seems to be trying to use this to milk money out of the government. My biggest problem is the airlines asking for 50 billion... the airlines are the one industry most responsible for this mess. Even when they knew there was a virus starting to spread they took no measure to help slow or stop it... they waited until a government say to stop moving passengers otherwise they would still be more than willing to fly Italians to the US, with no regard to the problems it would cause.
 

ELG13

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I highly suspect there was insider info being bandied about. There's no way his timing was what it was only by consequence.
This virus was on the loose for a while before he stepped down. I mean, I knew about it through my clients before he left. When he stepped down I told my husband he knows it's about to come here and get bad. He doesn't want to deal with it. I think it's part good timing part seeing the writing on the wall.
 

ELG13

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Y'all....my friend just invited our family to a pool party on Sunday for her son's bday. It's usual suspects. People we see weekly. It was supposed to be a bowling party but she changed if because of the virus. The party is at her dad's house. How in the world.....I just........I know they are going to make fun of us for not going but I don't understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!! People think that hanging out with family is ok because it's family. I feel like a clarification needs to be made. If they don't live with you and you couldn't avoid the exposure, then don't open yourself up to more exposure!
 

hopemax

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A lot of other major CEO's of different corporations stepped down recently... Makes you think.

I am more likely to believe that they did not think the President would be re-elected, so they wanted to clear out before Jan 2021, without it looking like everybody wanted to clear out by Jan 2021. *This* is just all an added "bonus" they don't have to deal with.
 

JusticeDisney

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It does matter when you are throwing around mortality rates for a disease. The US already has the number here skewed because the first big outbreak was in a nursing home.

Yes dead is dead, but it does matter if all those that died were over 80... would you think there is a difference in a disease that only killed kids and another one that only killed octogenarians? Of course you would. As for a ventilator shortage, it hasn't been shown to exist in the US. We have some people claiming there is one, but then we also had the Surgeon General saying masks don't help and in the next sentence saying doctors need those masks to protect themselves.. So frankly it makes little sense to listen to anything the supposed experts have to say. Just give people all the data and let use decide what is real and what isn't because the media in many instances has been acting a way to make people much more fearful than they should be.
There is no ventilator issue right now, that's correct. But if this virus continues at the rate that models show, then we here in the US will be woefully short on ventilators. That is simply a fact, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. Now, maybe we will acquire a great many more ventilators in the coming weeks, or maybe the models will prove to be wrong, or maybe the actions that we are taking right now will greatly reduce the spread, but none of that changes the fact that we will not have enough ventilators absent those things from happeneing.

As for the age of the decedents, there is no doubt that this virus attacks the elderly and infirm much more drasticly than it does others. That notwithstanding, anyone who compares this virus to the common cold is an unmitigated idiot. Full stop.
 

ImperfectPixie

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Y'all....my friend just invited our family to a pool party on Sunday for her son's bday. It's usual suspects. People we see weekly. It was supposed to be a bowling party but she changed if because of the virus. The party is at her dad's house. How in the world.....I just........I know they are going to make fun of us for not going but I don't understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!! People think that hanging out with family is ok because it's family. I feel like a clarification needs to be made. If they don't live with you and you couldn't avoid the exposure, then don't open yourself up to more exposure!
It's the math and geography problem all over again. They just don't get it, and unfortunately I haven't seen an infographic yet that demonstrates it well or I would have shared it here already.
 

HongKongFooy

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There is a reason cruise ships crews are primarily Filipino.

Hahahaha, indeed
A few years back I had a pinay girlfriend who worked a cruise ship out of FLA. She fitted passengers looking to wed, play the part of a casino high roller or dress for a fancy dinner date with tuxedos.
 

bpiper

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Fingers crossed!! Fox News is reporting test volunteers in Seattle are being admitted experimental covid-19 vaccine.
I work in IT supporting medical researchers. What you don't understand is that drug research protocols move through various steps and levels. They don't just conduct a test to see if the drug does its thing and if it seems to work, ship it. Usually after lab tests in animals show promising, they move to human testing. Human testing first starts out with testing different amounts of the drug on people and recording side effects and problems. They may do various combinations of drug dosage and ingestion methods. But they are only looking to see if the person tolerated the drug okay and if there are any side effects. They do record results, but only minimally. Its not until all the dosage/useage studies are finished that they do a study on actual results of the drug. They start off small, only a few people. See how it goes. They may adjust the dosage and start over. If it looks promising, they will do a bigger study and so on until they get to a large study. This is why they are saying a year.... Otherwise what could happen is that they test for results on a few people, get great results, start shipping the drug and after 1 million dosages, they find it destroys your liver. Now with the urgency of this crisis, they can do studies in parallel and other things to speed up the process, but it still will take time. The other thing that slows down this testing, is that this drug prevents you from getting it, not curing you after getting it. Its much easier and faster to see if a drug cures a disease than it is to see if a drug will prevent you from getting it. Prevention studies have to take time to see if you get the disease or not..... For ethical reasons, they can't expose people to the disease and see what happens. Our yearly ethical training makes that VERY clear.
 
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