Jrb1979
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I have been saying that for awhile. Logistically I can't see social distancing working at a theme park.
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TrainsOfDisney
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That has nothing to do with what I said. Orlando as a city has nothing to do with Disney. All those high rise buildings and such... they aren’t Disney or Universal office buildings.
Even just wearing a mask is even trickier than people think. It's one thing to wear to the Doctor's office or grocery store, but for hours on end in a theme park? Especially at WDW in the middle of August or September? Not only is going to be sweaty and gross, but perhaps leave people gasping for air, depending on the mask type and their fitness. Not to mention what happens when someone wants to spend a few minutes eating/drinking? Also what about when you have rambunctious kids who get tired of wearing one? What about on roller coasters where they may come off or fly into someone's face?
Of course not, but at the same time many of those house accounting firms, lawyers, etc. Many of whom are directly reliant on either business with Disney/Universal/SeaWorld or their vendors, partners and contractors.
jensenrick
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They aren't that bad, I wear one for hours a day at work. If it came down to "you must wear a mask, or you can't come in," you would wear one, right?
Not that Disney will do that, they'll call it a "strong suggestion" or wuss words to that effect. And all the people who should most be wearing them, the hacking grandpas and snot nosed kids, they won't have anything to do with them.
Bill in Atlanta
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That’s exactly what I see happening when they reopen. A list of “strong suggestions” but really nothing different except maybe some extra hand sanitizer stations.
Once we start seeing casinos and malls open and not cause any big outbreaks, confidence will grow for Disney to follow suit. I could see it happening this summer, but I’m a glass half full kinda guy.
bryanfze55
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Going to bed. Leaving with this thought:
I remain concerned that in the midst of this pandemic, so many of your initial instincts are to doubt your fellow Americans, put them down, call them “idiots” and generalize that Americans are less than willing to sacrifice for their fellow citizens... no wonder we can never get anything done as a nation.
I for one am proud of my fellow citizens for our shared sacrifice. This isn’t easy for any of us. I have a 6-year-old at home who doesn’t fully grasp why her friends, her grandparents, her school, her favorite parks were ripped away from her...
A little humility and understanding that everyone is coping differently and may have differing opinions on how we move forward as a society would go a long way towards healing - not in terms of preventing physical illness, but in terms of healing the emotional fractures that have been persistent in our society long before COVID-19 was a thorn in our sides.
In 100 years, future generations will talk about this event the way we do about the Spanish Flu. And all of us will have shared that experience which will be written in history books long after we’ve all returned to the dust. What’s important now is to realize no one is inherently right or wrong. There is no evil vs good here. I clearly have a different opinion than many of you, but I still hold all of you in high regard and consider all opinions to be something worth listening to...
But maybe we should have a little civic pride in the sacrifices that our fellow Americans have made for the sake of the community at large. It was a rocky start, but people have largely been willing to sacrifice. It’s an impressive feat for a nation that remains one of the most individualistic in the Western world. The willingness to suspend judgment and instead defer to understanding and empathy is the only thing that brings us out of this better than we were before.
I remain concerned that in the midst of this pandemic, so many of your initial instincts are to doubt your fellow Americans, put them down, call them “idiots” and generalize that Americans are less than willing to sacrifice for their fellow citizens... no wonder we can never get anything done as a nation.
I for one am proud of my fellow citizens for our shared sacrifice. This isn’t easy for any of us. I have a 6-year-old at home who doesn’t fully grasp why her friends, her grandparents, her school, her favorite parks were ripped away from her...
A little humility and understanding that everyone is coping differently and may have differing opinions on how we move forward as a society would go a long way towards healing - not in terms of preventing physical illness, but in terms of healing the emotional fractures that have been persistent in our society long before COVID-19 was a thorn in our sides.
In 100 years, future generations will talk about this event the way we do about the Spanish Flu. And all of us will have shared that experience which will be written in history books long after we’ve all returned to the dust. What’s important now is to realize no one is inherently right or wrong. There is no evil vs good here. I clearly have a different opinion than many of you, but I still hold all of you in high regard and consider all opinions to be something worth listening to...
But maybe we should have a little civic pride in the sacrifices that our fellow Americans have made for the sake of the community at large. It was a rocky start, but people have largely been willing to sacrifice. It’s an impressive feat for a nation that remains one of the most individualistic in the Western world. The willingness to suspend judgment and instead defer to understanding and empathy is the only thing that brings us out of this better than we were before.
BWDVCkidsince96
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This is a valid point I hadn’t thought of. I’m from nj where we have to wear masks in stores and to get take out and everything and I’m pretty happy to take it off after 20 minutes of wearing in mild temperatures. Regardless of discomfort or heat though, the eating comment is a legitimate problem. Not sure how restaurants will reopen with mask rules in place. My son refuses to wear a mask because he is always snacking. Thankfully he’s in the age range where masks aren’t required (and arguably do more harm than good anyway). People like to eat in Disney world, that’s a fact.....
jensenrick
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Bummer.
I keep hearing about the poor guy/family who gets there and gets turned away, and that's why we can't have temp checks or anything else. Where will he go? Can't get on a bus, can't have a room? (Doesn't stop the hospital I work at from telling everyone they can NOT work if they don't pass the temp check, my department head had to sit in the shade for 10 minutes before they let her in, BUT I Digress)
Anyway, it seems to me the only reasonable way to avoid this calamity (although they are gonna have to deal with it SOMEday) is -
all reservations for those coming to WDW now have to be accompanied with an email or fax showing that all parties arriving have been tested and are negative. All parties are to have their confirmations done at least a week in advance, or your ressie is cancelled. This should include day trippers, who go online (just like every other thing you have to go online for at WDW) "this/these are day/days I wish to come", get assigned a number, and send in their paperwork on time.
If you show up at the toll plaza and you can't show that your reservation with neg confirmation, you are turned away- no test, no nothing, goodBYE Felicia. Thus Disney is not responsible for whether or not you showed up positive or feverish or whatever. You were supposed to be cleared before you arrived, the burden is on the applicant, not the place.
Hey, my idea may be crazy or not, but that's what I would do, in their place. Prior Clearance Rezzies ONLY.
Speaking of Disney theme parks and face masks, It just occurred to me that there are many rides like Splash Mountain or Expedition Everest where people scream out of fear or joy. In rides like these, a face mask could fly off. If people won't be wearing a mask, how do you prevent droplets of saliva from people seated in front of you from landing on your face?
I guess we'll have to wait and see not only when, but how, the reopening of the parks will play out.
I guess we'll have to wait and see not only when, but how, the reopening of the parks will play out.
But this makes no sense, given how contagious this is. You book a week long trip to WDW, get tested a week out, negative = perfect! Now sometime between sending in the fax and arriving, you catch the virus. Whether that be out to do dinner in your home town, the airport, the plane, Magical Express bus, etc. Many, many places for you to catch it and the theoretically most likely places you'd catch it are the places you'd have to visit prior to visiting WDW.
I don't think you are properly interpreting what was done. The ban is on immigration, which would be asylum seeker and others that simply want to immigrate permanently to the US. This will most likely not apply to temporary workers which had already been exempted from in person interviews because farmers normally bring in lots of temporary laborers every year. People coming to work for Disney for a limited time are unlikely to impacted by this... the biggest impact they will face will most likely be trying to get into the foreign embassy where they live to get the paperwork completed.
jensenrick
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Then don't open WDW.
(you think a week is too long, too bad- people just don't get tested instantly everyday, day after day. It doesn't happen, never gonna happen.)
It makes me chuckle to hear people say, "you'll get tested here, then get tested there, then get tested the next day." Like when people use "contact tracing" and "Orlando" in the same sentence.
That's the point. Testing every day is not feasible, absent contact tracing where there's information you've been exposed at which point you get tested.
However, what possible good does being tested 10 days before your trip when you could very easily catch the virus in that timeframe? Or catch it on the way there in a crowded airport or on a plane? Regardless, by the time you're at the Magic Kingdom, you're quite infectious.
Whether there are any state laws in Florida or not, the reality is it is a very hot climate and if they didn't provide free water and someone died of a heat stroke the litigation would be fast and furious with claims that so and so died because you won't give them a drink... Disney isn't going to risk that happening so they will provide free water just to avoid that one time when someone has a problem that water would have eliminated.
Even if they say you have to wear one who is going to say anything to you you when you don't? Will you be accosted by the CM's that always pop up and stop line jumpers? Oh that's right they don't enforce line jumping either do they. Disney will create lots of rules but when push comes to shove they won't enforce them if they think it might cause a single guest to leave with more money that they could have slurped out of the guest's wallet.
Not entirely true, people are turned away all the time for attire that is against their dress code (profanity, too revealing, etc).
The bigger issue with masks is all the variables: What happens when you're eating? What if you need to catch your breath? What about on rides? Kids who refuse to wear one? What are the limits of permissibility.
Rich Brownn
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Only UV-C kills the virus. None of which reaches us from the sun
Giss Neric
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Disney should provide masks and small hand sanitizers to each guests entering the parks whether they already have or they don't have. It would be better if these masks have Disney designs on them so it would entice people to wear it and for Instagram of course.
I wore a mask for four hours while grocery shopping at Costco and Walmart. While I didn't feel discomfort in my facial area aside from sweat, my ears were hurting badly from the straps that I just used a bandana and tied it around my head instead.
I wore a mask for four hours while grocery shopping at Costco and Walmart. While I didn't feel discomfort in my facial area aside from sweat, my ears were hurting badly from the straps that I just used a bandana and tied it around my head instead.
Bartattack
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There are a number of people who are 3D printing "ear savers", which help with the problem of the straps hurting the ears.
The soda stations have a water option so water fountains don't need to be operating if that's what the owner decides.
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