Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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DVCakaCarlF

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I don't know enough about your bankruptcy laws, but in many countries, workers are at the back of the queue for payment if a firm has to close. Other creditors get paid first from any resources the company has, including cash in accounts. It may be that the law does not provide sufficient protection to ensure that any monies paid to a company by the government to cover wages will actually go, in its entirety to the workers, but may instead get tied up in bankruptcy claims from third parties..
In the United States, employees on payroll, not 1099/subcontractors, must be paid by law. There are a ton of civil protections for employees to guarantee payment.

Again, vendors, contractors, and temp staff are at the mercy of the courts.
 

Polynesia

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If we have to open up with temperature Checks before we go into places the economy will not rebound as to many will stay home. For our economy to survive it cannot have these type of restrictions as people will be scared to go out
Why would you be scared of a temperature check? When I went to Publix yesterday it was reassuring to see 99.9% of the shoppers wearing a mask of some sort. Temperature check is another reassuring tool and hopefully just temporary.
 

GoofGoof

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If we have to open up with temperature Checks before we go into places the economy will not rebound as to many will stay home. For our economy to survive it cannot have these type of restrictions as people will be scared to go out
I think in a way some people might feel more comfortable if they think ”sick people” are getting caught at the gate by a temp check. It will also be a turn off for others who might see it as against their rights. I think any requirement to wear a mask would be big negative across the board.
 

JoeCamel

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It's sad that a massive furlough of 77K WDW cast members that will soon apply for unemployment to make DeSantis address the "crushed" Florida unemployment system. Tell that to the thousands of non Disney staff in the last two weeks standing in line in the FL heat in other cities waiting in line for hours. Sad and disgusting.
Lots of holes in the safety net being exposed from this pandemic, people will be damaged and we will suffer. Does not matter if they throw a printing press at it the damage will be done and have to be paid for. So many small bussinesses will not survive.
 

GoofGoof

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Why would you be scared of a temperature check? When I went to Publix yesterday it was reassuring to see 99.9% of the shoppers wearing a mask of some sort. Temperature check is another reassuring tool and hopefully just temporary.
Some people will be against it because of privacy issues. Probably anyone scared of the temperature check would be scared to go to WDW even without it. Many people will be reluctant to go anywhere too far from their homes for a little while after things open up. It’s one thing to be in a grocery store or even a restaurant for an hour but going for a number of days to WDW is a much bigger step.
 

gmajew

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Why would you be scared of a temperature check? When I went to Publix yesterday it was reassuring to see 99.9% of the shoppers wearing a mask of some sort. Temperature check is another reassuring tool and hopefully just temporary.
i can assure you based in what our focus groups have said and the intel we are getting if you need to temp check and have servers wearing mask and gloves people will not go out to those places.
 

Nunu

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I think in a way some people might feel more comfortable if they think ”sick people” are getting caught at the gate by a temp check. It will also be a turn off for others who might see it as against their rights. I think any requirement to wear a mask would be big negative across the board.
I wouldn't mind having my temperature checked if it allowed me to use the face mask at my own discretion. I'd definitely put it on while in queue/pre-show, for example.

I'd be needing to take the mask off often anyway, either to hydrate, snack or just because it gets too hot weatherwise.
 

gmajew

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Some people will be against it because of privacy issues. Probably anyone scared of the temperature check would be scared to go to WDW even without it. Many people will be reluctant to go anywhere too far from their homes for a little while after things open up. It’s one thing to be in a grocery store or even a restaurant for an hour but going for a number of days to WDW is a much bigger step.
People when they go out to entertainment venues want an escape. All these things sound little but restaurants and theme parks movie theaters bowling allies etc will. It survive if this is what has to happen.

People will Not come back with restrictions. Not enough to pay these companies bills.
 

peter11435

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People when they go out to entertainment venues want an escape. All these things sound little but restaurants and theme parks movie theaters bowling allies etc will. It survive if this is what has to happen.

People will Not come back with restrictions. Not enough to pay these companies bills.
If the choice is come back with restrictions or remain cooped up in their houses, people will come back.
 
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GoofGoof

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People when they go out to entertainment venues want an escape. All these things sound little but restaurants and theme parks movie theaters bowling allies etc will. It survive if this is what has to happen.

People will Not come back with restrictions. Not enough to pay these companies bills.
It depends on the people. Some will be turned off by that and others won’t. Post 9/11 it took a lot of people very long to feel comfortable on a plane or in a big crowd like a sports stadium or theme park and other people hopped a flight to WDW.
If the choice is come back with restrictions or remained cooped up in their houses, people will come back.
I agree with this. People (me included) are ready to get out. If it means a temperature check or a tracking app I’m all in if it gets me out. I‘m not down with wearing a mask to WDW in the summer. That’s my breaking point. I’m sure others would do it if required.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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i can assure you based in what our focus groups have said and the intel we are getting if you need to temp check and have servers wearing mask and gloves people will not go out to those places.

Not sure who “our focus groups” are but I think this is correct in the USA. While some of us will go to Disney just to go most people are not going to go if there are all of these measures in place. To me, walking around Disney world with temperature checks and masks is not comforting, it’s a reminder that things are still at a dangerous level.

Plus, as others pointed out, who wants to risk spending the Disney $$$ and then be denied entry because you have a cold or your app turns yellow because you were in the same airport with a confirmed case? People aren’t going to want to travel under those conditions.

So yeah, Disney can open up slowly for locals and people who want to visit Disney anyways.... but this is going to get really interesting I think.
 

Nunu

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If the choice is come back with restrictions or remained cooped up in their houses, people will come back.
After 23 days under a very strict lockdown, you bet I'd go back as soon as it was safer to do so. For me, the hardest part would be to forcibly use a mask at all times, during the hotter months.
 

ImperfectPixie

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I think accountability would certainly be a concern. But I feel it’s easily mitigated. Under this proposal employers would be barred from laying off or furloughing any employees until after the event. If any individual was let go or was not being paid they could raise that concern to the appropriate Governmental channels. I feel pretty strongly that employers would have largely followed the rules and used the money correctly. I think the fact that it didn’t happen is because our lawmakers are largely stupid and incompetent and concerned primarily with their own self interests.
And what about people who work for companies that ARE NOT applying for loans?
 

Lilofan

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After 23 days under a very strict lockdown, you bet I'd go back as soon as it was safer to do so. For me, the hardest part would be to forcibly use a mask at all times, during the hotter months.
It's already hot in Orlando. I read the heat index was 95 degrees in the city beautiful.
 

Patcheslee

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Why would you be scared of a temperature check? When I went to Publix yesterday it was reassuring to see 99.9% of the shoppers wearing a mask of some sort. Temperature check is another reassuring tool and hopefully just temporary.
Personally I don't feel temp checks are reassuring. Considering I've had to go through them for 2 weeks at work, and in that time at least 3 confirmed coworkers were found. Until the day they had a temperature they were at work in close contact with others and now other coworkers are being told health department will determine if they have to quarantine and IF symptoms appear call a doctor, and POSSIBLY have a test done.
The trace contact at work is literally the confirmed person naming everyone they came within 6 feet of for a period of 10 minutes or longer in the past 14 days. First confirmed case leaked who it was: the guy that takes breaks and lunch outside with the whole maintenance department: not a single one was mentioned as a contact. So by employer/health department they were never flagged for quarantine or notifications.
 

peter11435

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And what about people who work for companies that ARE NOT applying for loans?
It has nothing to do with loans. Any company that is facing potential layoffs or furloughs should be able to cover their payroll through a government program rather than those employees being sent to the unemployment line. This makes the process smoother for the government and the employees and saves the government hundreds of millions.
 
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