Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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"El Gran Magnifico"

Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
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Disney Springs is mostly 3rd party vendors who wouldn’t be happy to restrict non-resort customers. The only way that would work is to lock it down at the entrance points from the garages and test everyone as they enter. This way if a resort guest takes the Disney bus to DS they never leave the bubble. Anyone driving and parking would have to be tested again.

They'd also probably start enforcing WDW Transportation for on property guests only. Which they could do via MB. Would cost a bit to equip every bus and/or bus stop (considering they'd now have to be manned) with MB readers. I suppose they could start only with the DS depot. Same would have to be true for the boats servicing the DS resorts.
 

flynnibus

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How do you handle Disney Springs? Re-screen resort guests if they visit?

Just treat it like any other shopping district in what they are doing at the time. No reason to lump it into what's happening in the rest of the resort.

If given 'wdw open or not...' -- I'd just treat DS as if it were off property and have it outside 'the bubble'
 

zengoth

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Just treat it like any other shopping district in what they are doing at the time. No reason to lump it into what's happening in the rest of the resort.

If given 'wdw open or not...' -- I'd just treat DS as if it were off property and have it outside 'the bubble'
Each store would need to have a policy, but the district as a whole would need some way to mitigate the crowds lining up to get into said stores/ 1/4th capacity restaurants.
 

GoofGoof

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Each store would need to have a policy, but the district as a whole would need some way to mitigate the crowds lining up to get into said stores/ 1/4th capacity restaurants.
Can Disney even make the restaurants reduce their capacity? If they are owned by an outside vendor I’m not sure they can. There’s capacity limits for fire codes but this would be different, or at least I think it would. Whole new ballgame with this situation.
 

"El Gran Magnifico"

Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
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Can Disney even make the restaurants reduce their capacity? If they are owned by an outside vendor I’m not sure they can. There’s capacity limits for fire codes but this would be different, or at least I think it would. Whole new ballgame with this situation.

I'd assume this is where Reedy Creek comes in.
 

Lilofan

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Can Disney even make the restaurants reduce their capacity? If they are owned by an outside vendor I’m not sure they can. There’s capacity limits for fire codes but this would be different, or at least I think it would. Whole new ballgame with this situation.
I think each vendor signs a contract adhering to Disney standards. Wording can be added for vendors to re-sign.
 

zengoth

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Can Disney even make the restaurants reduce their capacity? If they are owned by an outside vendor I’m not sure they can. There’s capacity limits for fire codes but this would be different, or at least I think it would. Whole new ballgame with this situation.
Reduced capacity may put them out of business when all is said and done if they can't make their numbers. And food pick-up only will have the same problems as in a theme park - crowds still need to go somewhere to eat their food and there's only so much space. Every time I've enjoyed the "poutine" (I've tried, i've really tried), I end up having to eat against a wall because every other table and low wall space is taken - just like most food I eat at Epcot's festivals is enjoyed on top of a festive trashcan (but that's another post).
 

thomas998

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What if Disney were to reimagine the Disney Bubble...

What if the parks were to open and only allow guests from Disney resorts? And what if everyone were to get screened at checkin? You check-in at the hotel... get screened.. and then you are free to visit the rest of the resort, the parks, etc. This could even be done at fixed places before you goto the hotel...

I know the resort population is not the entire WDW population... but what if they did that as a way to 1) limit how many people are in the parks and 2) provide a way to screen people in smaller batches away from the parks themselves...
It would be a nice way to do it if it were possible, but it isn't. Remember the tests aren't 100% accurate. Just imagine the lawsuits if it turns out some guests weren't detected because the test was a false negative and then you get a spike of guests getting sick, even if the mortality rate turns out to be .5% you would most likely get some deaths every year from people that got exposed by a false negative, that would be very expensive to cover. Most likely the lawyers would never allow Disney to do what you are suggesting because of the litigation they would be exposed to since the test would give people an expectation of a virus free park.

Of course the other problem is say you test everyone that goes to the park and they are all 100% negative and the tests are accurate. The problem is Mr. Smith was exposed on the plane down and doesn't show any symptoms until 4 days after he was checked. He was staying for a week so during those last 3 days he was infected and spewing little virus droplets all over the resort and parks. Mr. Smith realizes when he gets home that he was sick (although he might never know if he was the asymptomatic victim) but assume he did find out and his doctor called Disney to let them know that there was an infected guest on their grounds. How is that going to go down when Disney uses the magicbands and contacts the hundred or so people that they know were clearly in close proximity to him. That's not going to be good PR for Disney when you now have 100 people all over the country getting phone calls telling them they were exposed to a deadly virus.

It is a nice idea but doesn't really work given the reality of the virus. If we were talking about the measles it would work but this virus is just too sneaky.
 

"El Gran Magnifico"

Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
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It's very encouraging the way many, many have stepped up.

 

thomas998

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Of course but there is a big difference between a storm and Disney forcing a swab down someone's nose. It also doesn't change the act that it's simply not feasible to do it to everyone. Without that, every day of their stay, there is no real safety effect since most spreaders are asymptotic.
As someone that's had the nasty nose swab, I can attest that they hurt like h**l. It brought a tear to my eye and I can only imagine that every kid under 10 would be crying like they had just been given a shot at a doctor's office.... Not a great way to start a magical vacation.
 

GoofGoof

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I think each vendor signs a contract adhering to Disney standards. Wording can be added for vendors to re-sign.
Standards are one thing but I don’t know if they have the legal authority to limit capacity or dictate table configuration.
I'd assume this is where Reedy Creek comes in.
That’s a possibility. If RCID as a government entity mandates it that may be the way around it legally.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Of course but there is a big difference between a storm and Disney forcing a swab down someone's nose. It also doesn't change the act that it's simply not feasible to do it to everyone. Without that, every day of their stay, there is no real safety effect since most spreaders are asymptotic.

In the more likely scenario, the swab is only for those with a fever, not everyone. That's why I very specifically said for cases with fever...

"If someone have a fever and the only way they can get into a park is with a swab "
If they refuse the swab, they don't get in. Just like if people refuse to have their bag checks or be scanned/wanded. (The point here is precedent for turning people away, not for the severity of the procedure before anyone brings it up.)
 
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MickeyLuv'r

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Amazing with all your concerns you still CHOOSE to go. Enjoy your next visit, we know we will!😉


Taking issue with me is beside the point, and frankly, a waste of energy.
But if a cute emojis help, here goes....:D
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If instead we took a moment to actually think through the idea of social distancing at WDW instead.....:inlove:


Picture the Peter Pan and Pooh queues for a moment...🌈

Or the whole bottle neck area between PP and IaSW….

Or the area between BTMRR and Splash....💧

Or the DINOSAUR preshow room....🌎

Or every TTC Monorail queue and compartment.⚡

Or the group of people in HS all waiting to join a boarding group...👨‍👩‍👧‍👦👨‍👩‍👦‍👦👨‍👩‍👧‍👧👩‍👩‍👦👩‍👩‍👧‍👦

Or the 1000+ other spots of WDW that just weren't set up to allow social distancing. 👯‍♂️ (That emoji is cute for spring!)


It isn't realistic to imagine 50,000 people all maintaining social distancing all day, nor is it realistic to imagine the army of CM's it would take to enforce it.


Anyhow, that's it for me tonight!
 
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