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21stamps

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I think the point is technically, if we keep pushing out the 'peak' date for this, then when does it actually end? If the 'peak' date without social distancing was April, but now the 'peak' date with social distancing is late July (once again, these are all based off models), do we all stay home through July? What happens if the peak ends up in September or October?
That is my question. I don’t even think the experts know the answer to it.
 

lazyboy97o

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Unfortunately, life has risk. I'm asthmatic - my wife is working CV19 patients at the hospital. We're all in this together.
Why do you get to decide that others must take this risk? How have you determined that it is a worthwhile risk?

Stay home and take the available unemployment benefits in order to spare their health.
People over 45 represent 41.6% of the US population. You're way past half the population if you then include their dependents and care givers.
 

TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

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I have said my piece about pushing full lock downs into May and June....I don't want to get into that again. Right now, I am focused on the next two to three weeks, where it is supposed to be the worst. I am hopeful after that, we will be on the downward side...
You're prepared for the next 2-3 weeks and have set that in your mind, mentally. You've prepared yourself. What if May/June turns into July/August? What if the worst is in September? Are you mentally prepared to keep the lock downs going?

And I say this as someone who feels like we should've shuttered between mid-March through mid-May. This would've required these factoris and corporations to go into overdrive to get the necessary supplies out to hospitals and health care workers, to put tremendous focus on finding cures, solutions, and eventually a vaccine. This would've required the government to do everything in their power and then some to make people whole so they didn't have to stress/worry about it and could actually enjoy their forced time away to do the right thing. There are many who can continue to work (raises hand) from home. There are others who can't make a living if their business is shut. You've got to make everyone whole for the sacrifice they're making.
 

Andrew C

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The hard facts in life is even the experts don't have the answers we are looking for to continuity our lives. We can kick and scream but to no avail.
Their answers are only as good as the data available to them...
 

DarkMetroid567

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Sadly, some believe that. Until there is a vaccine, they believe no one should return to life.
Can you find me the experts and government officials that are saying this, though? I don't think most reasonably expect we'll be locked up a year. The general consensus I've seen is "should be done by summer" but the risk for a second wave exists, we just would need to prepare for fall.
It's going to be hard not to be political but it comes down to this: In Communist China, you're locked down with the threat of being shot. In the United States, you have freedom. So you have to be more creative. "Safer at home", for example, in Florida.
Right, we kind of see the middle ground of this with the European response.
 

21stamps

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As well as he should.
Agree to disagree.

People over 45 represent 41.6% of the US population. You're way past half the population if then include their dependents and care givers.
I’m not stuck on the age.. I responded to a comment, saying that something along those lines would need to happen.
Something will need to be arranged if these closures continue to get extended. The people who are high risk or too scared to work, stay home, take the government benefits. The rest can continue to try to keep this economy from sliding any deeper into a hole.
 

TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

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Can you find me the experts and government officials that are saying this, though? I don't think most reasonably expect we'll be locked up a year. The general consensus I've seen is "should be done by summer" but the risk for a second wave exists, we just would need to prepare for fall.
There are no experts or government officials saying that. That's conversations being had on this board or on Twitter, etc. People earnestly believe that and it's troubling.
 

Lilofan

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You're prepared for the next 2-3 weeks and have set that in your mind, mentally. You've prepared yourself. What if May/June turns into July/August? What if the worst is in September? Are you mentally prepared to keep the lock downs going?

And I say this as someone who feels like we should've shuttered between mid-March through mid-May. This would've required these factoris and corporations to go into overdrive to get the necessary supplies out to hospitals and health care workers, to put tremendous focus on finding cures, solutions, and eventually a vaccine. This would've required the government to do everything in their power and then some to make people whole so they didn't have to stress/worry about it and could actually enjoy their forced time away to do the right thing. There are many who can continue to work (raises hand) from home. There are others who can't make a living if their business is shut. You've got to make everyone whole for the sacrifice they're making.
10 million Americans just the first 2 weeks applying for unemployment , don't know how many in the next 2 weeks , prediction by finance experts of possible 20-30% unemployment by summer, mentally prepared by some to be homeless?
 

John park hopper

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Agree to disagree.



I’m not stuck on the age.. I responded to a comment saying that something along those lines would need to happen.
Something will need to be arranged if these closures continue to get extended. The people who are high risk or too scared to work, stay home, take the government benefits. The rest can continue to try to keep this economy from sliding any deeper into a hole.
The majority of people will recover and hopefully the scientific data will show some lasting immunity to reinfection, these will be the people going back to work and getting the economy rolling again
 

Andrew C

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What if May/June turns into July/August? What if the worst is in September? Are you mentally prepared to keep the lock downs going?
I have a number of posts about my feelings around this. I am not asking you to go back and read it or anything...only that I don't want to post about it again. I will only say that eventually, it will become unsustainable. But right now, I want us to get through the next few weeks. This is the first time that Fauci and Birx have given us a real timetable based on actual data they have been collecting.
 

DarkMetroid567

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There are no experts or government officials saying that. That's conversations being had on this board or on Twitter, etc. People earnestly believe that and it's troubling.
It's moderately troubling, but I wouldn't say troubling enough to be in serious consideration. These folks are just scared because we realistically don't have an idea of how far out we are. But they won't be the ones making the government mandates ending the shut-downs, either.
 

TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

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10 million Americans just the first 2 weeks applying for unemployment , don't know how many in the next 2 weeks , prediction by finance experts of possible 20-30% unemployment by summer, mentally prepared by some to be homeless?
That's the reality people are facing. Experts say it could be 47 million unemployed. There will come a day when the unemployment benefits run out. There will come a day when evictions have to happen because people just flat out have no other avenue to turn down and people will be out of their homes, with kids and loved ones, trying to figure out what to do next.
 

21stamps

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I have a number of posts about my feelings around this. I am not asking you to go back and read it or anything...only that I don't want to post about it again. I will only say that eventually, it will become unsustainable. But right now, I want us to get through the next few weeks. This is the first time that Fauci and Birx have given us a real timetable based on actual data they have been collecting.

we’re all under state orders as of now. What is your state saying? How long are your “non-essential businesses” shuttered or severely modified?
 

TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

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I have a number of posts about my feelings around this. I am not asking you to go back and read it or anything...only that I don't want to post about it again. I will only say that eventually, it will become unsustainable. But right now, I want us to get through the next few weeks. This is the first time that Fauci and Birx have given us a real timetable based on actual data they have been collecting.
Fair enough. I agree with you. We need to get through the next few weeks.

It's moderately troubling, but I wouldn't say troubling enough to be in serious consideration. These folks are just scared because we realistically don't have an idea of how far out we are. But they won't be the ones making the government mandates ending the shut-downs, either.
Exactly. They're scared and afraid. That fear isn't going away tomorrow. And while they're in the minority, the question will end up being is how vocal they will be and who will fold to that pressure?
 
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