Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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seascape

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Todays numbers are not good but it looks like NY, NJ are close to their peak and Florida already is. NY is at 381 and NJ is at 355. Florida is at 272, and has been 274 or less for several days. NYC is at 486 and Essex County is at 413. The US as a whole is at 204.

Digging into the numbers as many are now saying the number if cases isnt what matters but hospitalizations and deaths are what we should look at. Therefore, these are the current numbers according to the NY Times. New York has 62 per 100k hospitalized and an average of 0.68 deaths per 100k. NJ has 66 and 0.64 respectively. Florida is at 40 and 0.12 respectively.
 
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correcaminos

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DisneyFan32 said:
www.foxnews.com

Moderna CEO pushes for second COVID-19 booster shot, but doctors aren't yet convinced it's necessary

During its third-quarter earnings results report, Moderna said commercial booster market sales could be up to $2 billion in the United States in 2022.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

I'm scared of this by before end of 2022. I think more variants will get worse by next Winter.
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Stop listening to CEOs. Seriously. Let studies and trials and such dictate. And if you need another booster to keep you well who cares? Many vaccines require many doses to be effective longer term.
 
JoeCamel

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DisneyFan32 said:
www.foxnews.com

Moderna CEO pushes for second COVID-19 booster shot, but doctors aren't yet convinced it's necessary

During its third-quarter earnings results report, Moderna said commercial booster market sales could be up to $2 billion in the United States in 2022.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

I'm scared of this by before end of 2022. I think more variants will get worse by next Winter.
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I replied when you posted this before it may be that we need a 4th shot but this guy is in the business of selling vaccines.
 
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Lilofan

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seascape said:
Todays numbers are not good but it looks like NY, NJ are close to their peak and Florida already is. NY is at 381 and NJ is at 355. Florida is at 272, and has been 274 or less for several days. NYC is at 486 and Essex County is at 413. The US as a whole is at 204.

Digging into the numbers as many are now saying the number if cases isnt what matters but hospitalizations and deaths are what we should look at. Therefore, these are the current numbers according to the NY Times. New York has 62 per 100k hospitalized and an average of 0.68 deaths per 100k. NJ has 66 and 0.64 respectively. Florida is at 40 and 0.12 respectively.
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Newark and East Orange are getting hammered which is part of Essex County NJ.
 
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seascape said:
Todays numbers are not good but it looks like NY, NJ are close to their peak and Florida already is. NY is at 381 and NJ is at 355. Florida is at 272, and has been 274 or less for several days. NYC is at 486 and Essex County is at 413. The US as a whole is at 204.

Digging into the numbers as many are now saying the number if cases isnt what matters but hospitalizations and deaths are what we should look at. Therefore, these are the current numbers according to the NY Times. New York has 62 per 100k hospitalized and an average of 0.68 deaths per 100k. NJ has 66 and 0.64 respectively. Florida is at 40 and 0.12 respectively.
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The number of hospitalizations alone is also not a meaningful indicator, by itself.


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DisneyCane

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seascape said:
Todays numbers are not good but it looks like NY, NJ are close to their peak and Florida already is. NY is at 381 and NJ is at 355. Florida is at 272, and has been 274 or less for several days. NYC is at 486 and Essex County is at 413. The US as a whole is at 204.

Digging into the numbers as many are now saying the number if cases isnt what matters but hospitalizations and deaths are what we should look at. Therefore, these are the current numbers according to the NY Times. New York has 62 per 100k hospitalized and an average of 0.68 deaths per 100k. NJ has 66 and 0.64 respectively. Florida is at 40 and 0.12 respectively.
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The peak in NY, NJ and FL will probably occur within the next 2-4 days. I don't think we will actually see the peak looking at case numbers. The positivity is so high that the reported cases are getting limited by test volume.

Like the Delta wave in FL, the actual peak will be able to be determined by looking at the peak in new COVID hospital admissions.

Omicron becoming dominant so quickly might have saved the northeast from a much worse (in terms of serious illness) Delta wave this winter. This variant may have been the best thing to happen in the whole pandemic.
 
Kevin_W

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helenabear said:
Really going to push this rhetoric today? They are still pretty darn durable. They are keeping people out of hospitals. They are keeping whole families from getting sick at the same time. They are keeping people like my friend who was exposed by from catching it this week even.
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Yeah, I'm curious how I got it and my wife and daughter did not. We were on vacation together so were within 10' of each other pretty much the whole time that I was exposed (due to likely incubation time), as well as in the same rental car/hotel room. Hopefully that ~60% vaccine effectiveness vs. symptomatic illness means that I was in the 40% that got it any way and the two of them were protected.

Anecdotally, I'm at day ~7 and feel perfectly fine. We've had a ton of cases at my work since Christmas with a variety of outcomes. Most are similar to me, but at least 1 has had it settle into his lungs and is pretty ill though not hospitalized.
 
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Lilofan

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mmascari said:
My wife sent me this note going around her peers. She added the comment "it actually is quite funny, in a sad way".

A NOTE OF REASSURANCE FROM YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT REGARDING OUR UPDATED OMICRON POLICIES

As an additional real data point, my high schooler currently has 2 of 7 teachers out with COVID. On the plus side, both kids had busses today and the list of impacted not running bus routes has dropped from 7 to 5 pages.
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Wow , my friends whose kids go to school in FL, Orange County, have OC teachers and all adults mandatory to wear masks while in school while kids are strongly suggested to wear masks , which they do.
 
Kevin_W

Kevin_W

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mmascari said:
My wife sent me this note going around her peers. She added the comment "it actually is quite funny, in a sad way".

A NOTE OF REASSURANCE FROM YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT REGARDING OUR UPDATED OMICRON POLICIES

As an additional real data point, my high schooler currently has 2 of 7 teachers out with COVID. On the plus side, both kids had busses today and the list of impacted not running bus routes has dropped from 7 to 5 pages.
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Funny.

As of last Thursday, my DD's district had 110 staff and 435 active cases. Previous high's were about a quarter of that.
 
Jrb1979

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DisneyCane said:
If the bolded is true then it would indicate that the majority of the country is closer to my side of this discussion than to the people who disagree with me. It's an indication that internal polling indicates a public backlash against the public health > economy response and a fear that going that route will lead to worse approval ratings for those who would push that response.
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Why can't there be a balance? It doesn't have to one or the other.
 
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