TikibirdLand
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He KNOWS what he's talking about. After all, they named a law after him!
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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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Todays numbers are not good but it looks like NY, NJ are close to their peak and Florida already is. NY is at 381 and NJ is at 355. Florida is at 272, and has been 274 or less for several days. NYC is at 486 and Essex County is at 413. The US as a whole is at 204.
Digging into the numbers as many are now saying the number if cases isnt what matters but hospitalizations and deaths are what we should look at. Therefore, these are the current numbers according to the NY Times. New York has 62 per 100k hospitalized and an average of 0.68 deaths per 100k. NJ has 66 and 0.64 respectively. Florida is at 40 and 0.12 respectively.
Digging into the numbers as many are now saying the number if cases isnt what matters but hospitalizations and deaths are what we should look at. Therefore, these are the current numbers according to the NY Times. New York has 62 per 100k hospitalized and an average of 0.68 deaths per 100k. NJ has 66 and 0.64 respectively. Florida is at 40 and 0.12 respectively.
DisneyFan32
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Moderna CEO pushes for second COVID-19 booster shot, but doctors aren't yet convinced it's necessary
During its third-quarter earnings results report, Moderna said commercial booster market sales could be up to $2 billion in the United States in 2022.
www.foxnews.com
I'm scared of this by before end of 2022. I think more variants will get worse by next Winter.
correcaminos
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Stop listening to CEOs. Seriously. Let studies and trials and such dictate. And if you need another booster to keep you well who cares? Many vaccines require many doses to be effective longer term.Moderna CEO pushes for second COVID-19 booster shot, but doctors aren't yet convinced it's necessary
During its third-quarter earnings results report, Moderna said commercial booster market sales could be up to $2 billion in the United States in 2022.
I'm scared of this by before end of 2022. I think more variants will get worse by next Winter.
JoeCamel
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I replied when you posted this before it may be that we need a 4th shot but this guy is in the business of selling vaccines.Moderna CEO pushes for second COVID-19 booster shot, but doctors aren't yet convinced it's necessary
During its third-quarter earnings results report, Moderna said commercial booster market sales could be up to $2 billion in the United States in 2022.
I'm scared of this by before end of 2022. I think more variants will get worse by next Winter.
Newark and East Orange are getting hammered which is part of Essex County NJ.
Timmay
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The number of hospitalizations alone is also not a meaningful indicator, by itself.
If the only data point we had was that ninety percent of the population was hospitalized... I'd regard that as a meaningful indicator by itself.
DisneyCane
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The peak in NY, NJ and FL will probably occur within the next 2-4 days. I don't think we will actually see the peak looking at case numbers. The positivity is so high that the reported cases are getting limited by test volume.
Like the Delta wave in FL, the actual peak will be able to be determined by looking at the peak in new COVID hospital admissions.
Omicron becoming dominant so quickly might have saved the northeast from a much worse (in terms of serious illness) Delta wave this winter. This variant may have been the best thing to happen in the whole pandemic.
Timmay
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It isn’t.
Kevin_W
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Yeah, I'm curious how I got it and my wife and daughter did not. We were on vacation together so were within 10' of each other pretty much the whole time that I was exposed (due to likely incubation time), as well as in the same rental car/hotel room. Hopefully that ~60% vaccine effectiveness vs. symptomatic illness means that I was in the 40% that got it any way and the two of them were protected.
Anecdotally, I'm at day ~7 and feel perfectly fine. We've had a ton of cases at my work since Christmas with a variety of outcomes. Most are similar to me, but at least 1 has had it settle into his lungs and is pretty ill though not hospitalized.
John park hopper
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Daughter in law got it Friday Flue like symptoms lasted 2-3 days. Odd how my son close contact feels perfectly fine both were vaccinated
My wife sent me this note going around her peers. She added the comment "it actually is quite funny, in a sad way".
A NOTE OF REASSURANCE FROM YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT REGARDING OUR UPDATED OMICRON POLICIES
As an additional real data point, my high schooler currently has 2 of 7 teachers out with COVID. On the plus side, both kids had busses today and the list of impacted not running bus routes has dropped from 7 to 5 pages.
A NOTE OF REASSURANCE FROM YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT REGARDING OUR UPDATED OMICRON POLICIES
As an additional real data point, my high schooler currently has 2 of 7 teachers out with COVID. On the plus side, both kids had busses today and the list of impacted not running bus routes has dropped from 7 to 5 pages.
Wow , my friends whose kids go to school in FL, Orange County, have OC teachers and all adults mandatory to wear masks while in school while kids are strongly suggested to wear masks , which they do.
Kevin_W
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Funny.
As of last Thursday, my DD's district had 110 staff and 435 active cases. Previous high's were about a quarter of that.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Makes sense. Omicron is a spreading beast.
Jrb1979
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Why can't there be a balance? It doesn't have to one or the other.
Jrb1979
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Maybe it's time kids go back to online learning til this wave is over.
How about if you are sick just stay home? The online learning was so harmful to kids.
In our schools, mask are required for everyone. On the bus too. Required and use is not the same though. From reports, the kids are good about it at school, not as much on the bus. Lots of noses out on the busses. They say the cafeteria is good, but that's from a kids perspective.
Our county also has a ridiculously high vaccination rate. 84% of total population and 89.5% of age over 5 according to the CDC. We had almost no Delta bump. Last week, county wide, over 5% of students/staff had active positive COVID cases across the entire county school system. Right before they changed the metric to no longer go virtual in a school that's over 5%, which would have been almost all of them.
That's the truth all right.
A little cross county interactions, a little mistake unrealized exposure someplace, and Bob's your uncle you've passed it on. For instance, holiday gatherings with people from beyond the county at a large scale.
Our kids have started wearing masks for indoor soccer practice in mostly empty buildings again. Along with no spectators. A balance of taking extra mitigations instead of cancelling. There's probably a debate on if it's a good idea or not. Big building, few people, but heavy breathing and some up close contact, and that "mostly" part. There's a risk/reward math in there somewhere, and I like to hope we're on the correct side of it.
On that risk/reward math, combined with "Omicron is so infectious everyone will get it eventually", a recommendation from my wife was "If you're going to catch it, better to do it when not everyone else is also catching it". So plan accordingly as the healthcare utilization numbers crest near 100%.
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