Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Bullseye1967

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Alachua's cases are up almost 1,000%.

Did they get it from Miami or tourists?
Not a clue. I'm not defending Florida or any other state. I was making the point that data can be shown in any light a person chooses. If a community of 5k has 1 case and week later has ten, then they are also up 1000%. Is 10 case in community of 5k a big deal? No but up 1000% is scary. Yes, I know that is highly unrealistic, but just making a point. If you start very low then your percentage jump is huge. That is why the anti-vax crowd pointed at the numbers in Vermont and Hawaii during the last wave when their cases were still far better than most states.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Your posts above about figuring J&J worked say otherwise. Why even act like you had it if you won't test? With J&J a booster is highly recommended too.
Yes. If I had it I figure great... J&J worked.

“You won’t test” I’ve taken tests... had to for work. I didn’t see the need when I could just self isolate.

Well... no booster yet for me. If I’m forced to take one to participate in society than I will. Otherwise I’ve checked out about worrying about this thing.
 

danlb_2000

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I didn't see that the CDC say PCR not reliable. What are they saying is reliable then?? Not questioning you, genuinely curious.

They didn't. They removed emergency use authorization for their PCR because there are plenty of others available now. This is being mis-interpreted as them saying it is unreliable.

 

Patcheslee

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I honestly don't understand the desire to get tested. If you don't have a severe case it doesn't make any difference in the treatment which is essentially to wait it out until you get better.

If you have COVID-like symptoms, why not just assume you have it and isolate for the recommended time period? The only benefit to testing is statistics at this point. Just about everywhere is in the "high" community spread category so testing isn't even useful to know the level of community spread.

Test and trace was never successful and it is 100% useless at this point.
Personally without a positive test I don't qualify for Short term disability pay, which is now how covid related absences is covered.
13yo if she misses school, requires a positive test, doctor quarantine order, etc. to convert to virtual learning vs strikes on her attendance.
 

hopemax

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This makes no sense to me, do you trust natural infection more than the vaccine?

Until data says otherwise I have full faith in my Pfizer vaccine, when data showed effectiveness was decreasing I got boosted, what’s the point of “follow the science” if we don’t follow the science?
Huh? We don’t want to be sick twice. Is that so hard to understand?

This sickness has already been a PITA.
 

Jrb1979

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Yes. If I had it I figure great... J&J worked.

“You won’t test” I’ve taken tests... had to for work. I didn’t see the need when I could just self isolate.

Well... no booster yet for me. If I’m forced to take one to participate in society than I will. Otherwise I’ve checked out about worrying about this thing.
That last sentence says a lot and IMO is why numbers are skyrocketing everywhere. Too many people have decided Covid is over and stopped taking precautions. You can go about your life with wearing masks and keeping your distance from others.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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That last sentence says a lot and IMO is why numbers are skyrocketing everywhere. Too many people have decided Covid is over and stopped taking precautions. You can go about your life with wearing masks and keeping your distance from others.

i should wear a mask when working even though nobody else is? What does that solve?

I wear a mask anywhere it’s required or requested.
 

MisterPenguin

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And there it is....
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It's how we won the war effort.
 

mmascari

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If we have Covid, my DH will go to the movies and eating out again in the next few weeks. If we don’t know, despite being vaccinated he won’t. So yes, knowing will affect our behavior. In one case restaurants and movie theaters get increased business in the other they don’t.

If you're going to act differently depending on if you had it or not, then getting tested vs just assuming is absolutely the correct decision.

Huh? We don’t want to be sick twice. Is that so hard to understand?

This sickness has already been a PITA.
I'm assuming he's thinking of getting sick as a type of booster to future immunity then. It's a thought. An actual booster would be better and have less side effects. Or an actual extra extra booster if those get approved later. I don't think I would do anything different based on having been sick in the past or not. But, if that's how he feels, there's nothing wrong about it.

Yes. If I had it I figure great... J&J worked.

“You won’t test” I’ve taken tests... had to for work. I didn’t see the need when I could just self isolate.
I don't see anything wrong with this. In the short term, you acted like you had it. In the long term, you ignore it, so it doesn't matter. It's only when longer term decisions are based on the assumption that you had it that having a test to know you really did have it is required.

Which, for anyone who needs proof to show someone also means they need to test to know for sure.

Well... no booster yet for me. If I’m forced to take one to participate in society than I will. Otherwise I’ve checked out about worrying about this thing.
As a fellow J&J recipient, I recommend getting a booster. J&J was just barely a single dose vaccine. The fact that we're calling them all boosters for all the different types instead of just the next step in the vaccine course is almost as much marketing as science, there's some nuance in there. Some of that combined with being able to call J&J a single dose and use it in situations where a second dose cannot be guaranteed.

From an immune response and protection against breakthrough, you're much better off with an additional dose of something after the single J&J dose. Whichever of the options floats your boat for the extra one. If you're a woman, or someone predisposed to heart issues, one of the MRNA options instead of a second J&J. If you have other personal preferences for the J&J, another of those then.

Unless you are thinking that having COVID served as the booster, but since you didn't test, you don't really know, and we're back at not making longer term decisions based on an assumption.
 

hopemax

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I'm assuming he's thinking of getting sick as a type of booster to future immunity then. It's a thought. An actual booster would be better and have less side effects. Or an actual extra extra booster if those get approved later. I don't think I would do anything different based on having been sick in the past or not. But, if that's how he feels, there's nothing wrong about it.
If this was about my DH... Both DH and I are boosted already. But being sick with Covid this week means we will not get sick with Omicron in 2 weeks. Unless anyone has info that reinfection happens that fast. But being sick with the cold or flu is not protective against Omicron. Whatever exposure to Omicron we encounter in 2 weeks, the outcome is dependent on what sickness we have now actually is. The timeline of concern is not generic "future" it's after being sick, we don't want a repeat from another illness in 2 weeks.
 

Ayla

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This is likely one of the craziest things I've seen today. Being contrary isn't helping anyone.

Yeah it's a real problem here too. I am so sorry this is so difficult for so many. Hang in there

We could make it harder for unvaccinated to move about....
We should make it harder for the unvaccinated to move about and live normally. They are the sole reason we are still dealing with this bullcrap.
 

Bullseye1967

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In some areas testing at home or getting a test isn't an option in the short term. My FiL is in a nursing home. They just switched visiting requirements to a person must have a negative test with in 48 hrs. There are no tests available in retail and the wait for testing is 7 to 10 days. My MiL is beside herself because she likes to visit every day or so. We have found some online at a high price and ordered them to be delivered to her but this isn't realistic in the long term.
 

hopemax

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Your chances of getting sick again are tiny either way. Having Covid doesn’t guarantee you won’t get it again, just like being vaccinated doesn’t guarantee you won’t get sick. Just playing the odds.
Apparently it is hard to understand.

If we only have a cold now.... we can get Omicron next week or two weeks, yes? Omicron is making even boosted / vaccinated people sick, yes? The risk of getting Omicron is not "tiny." So we could get sick again, yes?
 

disneygeek90

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I've had an incredibly sporadic cough since late on 12/31. No other symptoms, just a random mild cough every 30 minutes or even few hours. Other than that, I feel totally fine. It is odd because while I do have allergies regularly, I never cough and a cough is typically my last symptom to develop with a cold, not the only symptom. If only I could just pick up an at home test. At this point it doesn't even seem worth it to try to go anywhere else for how mild this is, but there is a part of me that is wondering.
 
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