I've been watching the college bowl games today New Years Day on TV. Stadiums packed with fans not a mask wearer in sight.
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correcaminos
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I just don't know anyone personally but I knew it was possible based on past with other things. The article did go into why it likely can happen.
I always wash hands and prefer social distancing anyway. Add in vaccines and me wearing masks indoors with groups that are not my family/cohort and hopefully we will avoid the worst of everything.
Social distancing can stay indefinitely for as far as I am concerned
Ok, let's say there are five people in the box...
You mean like Small Pox?
That didn't happen. We killed it.
BTW, for the medieval European plagues that killed one third of the population, it took a few centuries to run their course.
BuddyThomas
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The pandemic is over, haven’t you heard?
EpcoTim
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We’re not exactly walking through streets full of sewage now and most Dr’s these days aren’t prescribing bloodletting as a cure, to the guys point though, nature won the battle and humankind won the war and life did move on.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I don’t think any states have outdoor mandates anymore.
I’m watching the Rose bowl and there’s no masks in sight, proof of full vax or a negative test were required for admittance though so I don’t really blame people for enjoying some carefree outdoor time.
Good time to buy stock in Abbott Labs with millions and millions of PCR, Rapid kits that need to be made and currently being made/shipped.
JoeCamel
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and it rhymedTish! You spoke French!!
TehPuddingMan
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Forcefully masking toddlers, requiring a vaccine passport for a 5 year old to eat at McDonalds, and closing down schools are not reasonable precautions. You may not care about children, especially the underprivileged that don’t have the means to do remote learning, but I do.
Your “reasonable precautions” simply do not work and cause more harm than good.
Better get used to life the life you are dealt with so in the future we can have better days to be with friends and family.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
At the event in question, you either had to be vaccinated or have a negative Covid test. Just to provide a bit of detail.
correcaminos
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Forcefully masking toddlers? What is the difference between a 5 year old being asked to show proof and a 25 year old?
You do know that there are ways to support children who are disadvantaged including setting up socially distanced places for kids to safely learn remotely. Many places have also provided hot spots to help - my school as well. Churches stepped in to make sure kids were watched when families couldn't stay home. Schools set up in person for those in need as well.
None of this is ideal but I'm rather over people using children as excuses when one can come up with solutions if they try. Cases in the grade schools were insane before break. I'm concerned we'll be stuck in a daily "do we have school or not" which .is a heck of a lot more disruptive than online learning.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
School closures and remote learning have been a disaster. The data is clear on this point. We should have prioritized kids and their education. But in many places, not so much. This is like a trigger topic for me so I will just leave it. We let the kids down. Very sad.
GimpYancIent
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No not exactly. Definitely not centuries "The Black Death (also known as the Pestilence, the Great Mortality or the Plague) was a bubonic plague pandemic occurring in Afro-Eurasia from 1346 to 1353. It is the most fatal pandemic recorded in human history, causing the death of 75–200 million people in Eurasia and North Africa, peaking in Europe from 1347 to 1351."
Heppenheimer
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What we commonly call "The Plague" aka, the Black Death of the 14th century only lasted a few years, but the disease itself continued to pop up and cause localized epidemics for centuries. Isaac Newton formulated his famous three laws of motion while in the countryside trying to avoid the Great Plague of London in the 1660s. An example of historical social distancing.
The Plague burned itself out because it killed its victims faster than the disease could spread, especially after the disease caused a collapse in trade. There is no "natural immunity" to plague, it was almost uniformally lethal before the discovery of antibiotics. What kept subsequent plagues as mere epidemics (as opposed to pandemics) were that people learned how to efficiently quarantine. The disease finally reverted back to an almost solely zooinotic infection because of the massive expenditures in public sanitation during the 1700-1800s. Making our filthy cities less filthy had multiple benefits in the fight against many different diseases. Which is why I actually worry about outbreaks of typhus, cholera, TB and even plague returning to certain west coast US cities if the present circumstance continues.
The lesson- plague didn't just go away because it ran its course. It became a very rare disease, even before we had antibiotics, because we learned how to control it and we took the necessary steps.
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Smooth
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correcaminos
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I'm not advocating for this, but the threat is real. We had sudden closures due to lack of staff. That's tough and harder on families than consistency. We've been warned schools and transportation can be closed on a moment's notice. I worry we'll shut down with zero plans which is far worse. But at this point we cannot plan a closure because we had no time so it would be just as bad. Worrying about 5am calls for closures is real here and not a good answer either.
FTR remote wasn't bad for all, but many kids were failed. Many thrived. We could do so much better if we tried as a whole. Spoken as a parent who is very involved with schools to the point that teachers tease how often I'm helping.
I'm honestly so mad at those who ignored science and are leaving us in a crap spot. I'm sick of this all when we had access to ways to keep spread lessened.
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