Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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hopemax

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Trevor Bedford is a respected voice in genomic surveillance and analysis throughout this pandemic. When he says something we should pay attention. Shooting the messenger (me) for sharing his tweets won't change what happens.
 

Incomudro

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Deliveries are not available everywhere, require a certain level of technology to be available and cost more (and I know, you have nothing but scorn and contempt for those dirty poors who don’t live near a grocery stores). People who are more vulnerable tend to have medical issues which means some level of care needs to be available.

This still ignores the issue of huge numbers of people just being out sick everywhere else.
Deliveries are certainly available to anyone within the circumference to utilize my local Shoprite, which is not served by public transportation.
Everyone who goes there has a car, and most of them quite decent ones, as the supermarket primarily serves upper middle class to upper class surrounding neighborhoods.
When I saw the age and condition of some of the people there when we were in the earlier stages of covid, and were unsure of how bad it was going to get (over flowing morgues? tent hospitals full of the dying? hospital ships in similar situations?) I truly didn't understand why some of those people would risk the trip. And as I said before, risk it in makeshift hazmat attire.
What are you doing here? You don't have to be here.
 

lazyboy97o

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Deliveries are certainly available to anyone within the circumference to utilize my local Shoprite, which is not served by public transportation.
Everyone who goes there has a car, and most of them quite decent ones, as the supermarket primarily serves upper middle class to upper class surrounding neighborhoods.
When I saw the age and condition of some of the people there when we were in the earlier stages of covid, and were unsure of how bad it was going to get (over flowing morgues? tent hospitals full of the dying? hospital ships in similar situations?) I truly didn't understand why some of those people would risk the trip. And as I said before, risk it in makeshift hazmat attire.
What are you doing here? You don't have to be here.
That you live within the delivery radius of a grocery store means others do as well?
 

Nubs70

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Every player (except Matthew Tkachuk) of the Calgary Flames has tested positive since Dec 13. All vaccinated, all minor cases.

Omicron is a different beast, it’s breakthrough rate is mind boggling, fortunately it looks like the cases among the vaccinated are staying mild.

Despite the whole team being positive in the last 16 days they are practicing again, 16 days from the beginning of their outbreak to the players back on the ice practicing.
We're they hanging out in the locker room or something?
 

danlb_2000

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That seems to be what is happening everywhere I keep hearing about - at least anecdotally - it's no longer a couple of people got it here and there, so you send them off to isolate - once one person starts to get symptoms and seems to expose a team/work place/etc. - it's already too late and it's spread amongst the majority.

And again, anecdotally - I work in travel, and cancellations are already up again this week from people who were exposed over Christmas - between this and New Year's, I have a feeling the numbers for the beginning of January are going to unfortunately be very grim, indeed.

The community theater I work with was getting ready for it's first full production in two years in January, but we have decided to push it back a few weeks. Being all volunteer it only takes one person getting sick to shut the production down.
 

danlb_2000

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Deliveries are certainly available to anyone within the circumference to utilize my local Shoprite, which is not served by public transportation.
Everyone who goes there has a car, and most of them quite decent ones, as the supermarket primarily serves upper middle class to upper class surrounding neighborhoods.
When I saw the age and condition of some of the people there when we were in the earlier stages of covid, and were unsure of how bad it was going to get (over flowing morgues? tent hospitals full of the dying? hospital ships in similar situations?) I truly didn't understand why some of those people would risk the trip. And as I said before, risk it in makeshift hazmat attire.
What are you doing here? You don't have to be here.

We started using delivery services early on, but it was not easy to book slots early on. We had trouble finding open times with Instacart or the stores own services.
 

Lilofan

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Who knows if Iowa State and Clemson football teams will visit the theme parks but on Wed both play in a bowl game near downtown Orlando with no restrictions for fans and players with 40K expected in attendance.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Vaccine passports and masks mandates in action.

Makes me wonder how long people will hold on to the idea that we are in control of this?

83% of adults in NYC are fully vaccinated, another 8% are partially vaccinated, 55% of kids over 5 have at least one dose, they have mask mandates, they have vaccine passports, they have social distancing… it’s time to accept it’s not something we can control, we can have an impact on it but the idea we can stop it seems crazy at this point.

Hold on folks, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride and as much as people don’t want to admit it we’re passengers.
 

Jrb1979

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Makes me wonder how long people will hold on to the idea that we are in control of this?

83% of adults in NYC are fully vaccinated, another 8% are partially vaccinated, 55% of kids over 5 have at least one dose, they have mask mandates, they have vaccine passports, they have social distancing… it’s time to accept it’s not something we can control, we can have an impact on it but the idea we can stop it seems crazy at this point.

Hold on folks, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride and as much as people don’t want to admit it we’re passengers.
It's why there is no reason to get all upset over mandates and restrictions. Nobody can change it so the best bet is learn to live your life.
 

Touchdown

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Just wait until hospitals start turning people away and trains, heart attacks, strokes and sepsis start killing like they used to a century ago. We needed to lock down last week, instead mass deaths await.
 

EpcoTim

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Every player (except Matthew Tkachuk) of the Calgary Flames has tested positive since Dec 13. All vaccinated, all minor cases.

Omicron is a different beast, it’s breakthrough rate is mind boggling, fortunately it looks like the cases among the vaccinated are staying mild.

Despite the whole team being positive in the last 16 days they are practicing again, 16 days from the beginning of their outbreak to the players back on the ice practicing.
They need to bring back Al MacInnis.
 

hopemax

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Makes me wonder how long people will hold on to the idea that we are in control of this?

83% of adults in NYC are fully vaccinated, another 8% are partially vaccinated, 55% of kids over 5 have at least one dose, they have mask mandates, they have vaccine passports, they have social distancing… it’s time to accept it’s not something we can control, we can have an impact on it but the idea we can stop it seems crazy at this point.

Hold on folks, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride and as much as people don’t want to admit it we’re passengers.
It's not about control. It's about the speed at which we hit the wall. Our choices are full-speed (which is less than the full-speed we would have been traveling before vaccines) or keep trying to pump the breaks. How full-speed became the "reasonable" choice over pumping breaks I don't know.
 

Nubs70

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Makes me wonder how long people will hold on to the idea that we are in control of this?

83% of adults in NYC are fully vaccinated, another 8% are partially vaccinated, 55% of kids over 5 have at least one dose, they have mask mandates, they have vaccine passports, they have social distancing… it’s time to accept it’s not something we can control, we can have an impact on it but the idea we can stop it seems crazy at this point.

Hold on folks, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride and as much as people don’t want to admit it we’re passengers.
Are "Break Through" cases even a thing anymore or is there a different terminology?
 
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