Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Lilofan

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I'm surprised hearing about shortages. So far here there hasn't been any. The only bad thing is our price of gas. It's almost $5.50 a gallon.
High gas prices but govt subsidized health insurance in the great white north , ask a Canadian about in network or out of network doctors like in the USA they would say - What's that?😉
 

DisneyCane

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I don't remember what the exact number was last week but I think the breakthrough deaths jumped around 3,000 from last week to this week on the CDC page.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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Election in June 2022.

Think of this as another campaign promise of sorts.

Shhh, I was trying to allude to that without breaking forum rules.

The difference now is the amount of people vaccinated.

Maybe the under 12 vaccinations will make a difference, but what I can see now is that new vaccinations are minimal (but continuing), and new COVID cases remain pretty steady.

Which raises the question, is this as good as it's going to get and should we stay the course - open things but keep the vaccine passports and masks in crowded environments...
 

JoeCamel

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Shhh, I was trying to allude to that without breaking forum rules.



Maybe the under 12 vaccinations will make a difference, but what I can see now is that new vaccinations are minimal (but continuing), and new COVID cases remain pretty steady.

Which raises the question, is this as good as it's going to get and should we stay the course - open things but keep the vaccine passports and masks in crowded environments...
I would hope we get to a point where we can do effective contact tracing.
 

Jrb1979

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Shhh, I was trying to allude to that without breaking forum rules.



Maybe the under 12 vaccinations will make a difference, but what I can see now is that new vaccinations are minimal (but continuing), and new COVID cases remain pretty steady.

Which raises the question, is this as good as it's going to get and should we stay the course - open things but keep the vaccine passports and masks in crowded environments...
Probably the best it will get. Come spring things should be better.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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March of next year? Good God… that’s absurd.

Keep in mind the restrictions right now aren't that extreme. People can do most things as long as they're vaccinated.

Also, that's the end date. Many restrictions will be lifted between now and then.

This is all largely due to high vaccination numbers and people following the rules. Some other jurisdictions should take note.
 

mikejs78

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Kind of like "the vaccines work so well that the unvaccinated need to get vaccinated to protect the people who have been vaccinated." There are lots of contradictory statements flying around regarding COVID vaccines.

This is how all vaccines work. Every single one. No vaccine is 100% effective, and for some people the vaccine is less effective than others due to underlying health issues. This is the case for measles, smallpox, mumps, any other disease we get a vaccine for. The reason you don't see measles cases except for occasional outbreaks is not because any one person is vaccinated, but because the whole population, greater than 95% are vaccinated. As more and more people get vaccinated, the effectiveness multiplies.

This is not new to the Covid vaccine. This is virology 101.
 

DisneyCane

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This is how all vaccines work. Every single one. No vaccine is 100% effective, and for some people the vaccine is less effective than others due to underlying health issues. This is the case for measles, smallpox, mumps, any other disease we get a vaccine for. The reason you don't see measles cases except for occasional outbreaks is not because any one person is vaccinated, but because the whole population, greater than 95% are vaccinated. As more and more people get vaccinated, the effectiveness multiplies.

This is not new to the Covid vaccine. This is virology 101.
The fact that MMR is 97% effective against measles after 2 doses probably has a lot to do with why you don't see measles outbreaks.
 

correcaminos

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The fact that MMR is 97% effective against measles after 2 doses probably has a lot to do with why you don't see measles outbreaks.
Actually it has to also do with people all being vaccinated. Less chance for spread. You may not realize this but in outbreaks vaccinated wre often part of it, but not the initial cause usually. Why do you repeatedly try to minimize the importance of vaccines?
 

Heppenheimer

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Anyone else getting tired what the CDC says anymore? They keep moving the goal post. Previously Fauci said it we got to 70% vaccinated we would be good, then he comes out and explain that he misled us for our own good. Now we are at the point that boosters are necessary after several months…
Anyone else getting tired of the excuses people keep giving for why they can't get vaccinated?
 
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