Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Lilofan

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Timmay said:
One can be fully supportive of vaccinations and still be unsupportive of what can be seen as constant inconsistencies from officials. It’s not “either/or.” Multiple truths can, in fact, be held at the same time.
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The last sentence was a favorite of a poster in the defunct politics thread😃
 
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Tony the Tigger

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Tony the Tigger said:
I’ll be erring on the side of caution and getting my third asap.
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So I made my appointment for today a few days ago. At that time, there was no option for a Moderna booster on the Publix website, so I chose a different option just to make the appointment. It was important to me to not make it much later than today because I’m getting on a plane for nearly 6 hours in two weeks (just enough time for it to kick in.)

Glad I did! I was easily able to change the specifics when I got here to get the Moderna booster. We’ll see if it has fewer side effects since it is a half dose.

If you don’t have an appointment, the wait is close to an hour.

Very relieved, I will be less stressed on the plane, and enjoy the Stones in Vegas before a weekend of business meetings. ☺️👏🏻🎃
 
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jackpast

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Returned 6 days ago from 7 day trip to WDW. Stayed at SSR and went to Epcot and AK. Ate dinners out most nights, walked the springs, lots of pool time. We’re both vaccinated…wore masks when required, etc. Felt as safe as can be in todays reality. It was so nice going back to WDW. I’m already planning our next return.
 
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FanforDisney said:
So when do we believe Fauci? He has given conflicting statements/directions throughout the pandemic.
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If anyone believes he is a god that is on them. He IS an expert in his field. If you feel there are political influence, that is fair, but sometimes people want to demand answers as if he has them all. There are also many other experts(literally millions) around the world to listen to. And you will find the majority agree with the big picture points.

Still a NOVEL virus, which means this is still new and no one has all the answers.
 
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drizgirl

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helenabear said:
Yeah no. It doesn't matter to these people. They checked out over a year ago before we even had a thought of a vaccine. You might say adjusting for science makes it worse but they were maskholes then and now both maskholes and vaxholes ,
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I didn't say adjusting for science makes it worse. I said adjusting for manipulation of behavior makes it worse.

There was always going to be a hard core group of vaccine refusers. But I do think it was made worse by the perception over time of various recommendations that were based more in behavior manipulation than evolving science.

You hear a changing story and assume it's always about evolving science. Of course some of it is. But I look at all of this with a very skeptical eye while evaluating on a personal basis. I got fully vaxxed as early as possible. I got my kids and parents vaxxed as early as possible. I'm thrilled I can finally go get a Moderna booster along with the rest of my family.

But I don't believe the message has been exclusively about evolving science.
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Seeing some significant case and hospitalization increases in certain states. Hopefully doesn’t turn into a huge surge.
 
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correcaminos

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Andrew C said:
Seeing some significant case and hospitalization increases in certain states. Hopefully doesn’t turn into a huge surge.
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Some locations are behind on the delta surge.
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I didn't say adjusting for science makes it worse. I said adjusting for manipulation of behavior makes it worse.

There was always going to be a hard core group of vaccine refusers. But I do think it was made worse by the perception over time of various recommendations that were based more in behavior manipulation than evolving science.

You hear a changing story and assume it's always about evolving science. Of course some of it is. But I look at all of this with a very skeptical eye while evaluating on a personal basis. I got fully vaxxed as early as possible. I got my kids and parents vaxxed as early as possible. I'm thrilled I can finally go get a Moderna booster along with the rest of my family.

But I don't believe the message has been exclusively about evolving science.
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No you didn't say that - I did (edit: was meant as a generic you). I believe best interests are at heart.
 
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DisneyCane said:
Delta isn't by much based on some of the graphics posted in this thread.
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They would be incorrect. The Ro of Delta is about 6 and Measles 16.

One can calculate the percentage of the population that would require full immunity (aka a 100% effective vaccine) by 1 - 1/Ro.

That’s where the 85% from COVID (Delta) and the 95% for measles concepts come from. If the efficacy of the COVID vaccine is less than the measle vaccine, those numbers start to converge.

This also assumes approximately even distribution of vaccine provision though. Large scale outbreaks can’t be contained by any country not yet vaccinating children.
 
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Tom P. said:
I'm going to jump back into this thread for the first time in many, many months to address this.

I am unhappy with the reporting surrounding Colin Powell and I think more context should be provided. But I think it's for the opposite reason that everyone seems to be thinking here.

It's not that I think we shouldn't be counting his death as a Covid death or that we're overblowing case numbers or anything like that. It's because I think reporting a well-known fully vaccinated person died, without providing the context as to why they likely died, is only going to further drive vaccine hesitancy. The mantra is going to be, "See, he died even though he did all the right things! The vaccine is worthless!" when, in fact, we know that it was his underlying conditions that made him vulnerable and that most vaccinated people will not die from Covid.

That's why I want to see them report this differently.
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I agree with you. The elderly, the obese and smokers are more vulnerable . People that have autoimmune disease , on chemotherapy ,prolonged steroid therapy are also vulnerable. Anyone with asthma, cancer ,respiratory disease or heart disease or diabetes are vulnerable . So if someone has diabetes ,is obese has asthma and smokes ,that is 4 risk factors . The risk factors add up. Also those that had 2 vaccines are still slightly vulnerable especially if the still have multiple risk factors because the vaccine is only 95% or 96% effective. Also you are vulnerable for about 2 weeks after your vaccines. According to CDC anyone that has the vaccine will need a 3rd vaccine (booster) if their vaccine date is over 6 months because the vaccine starts to weaken . I think people forget this information and believe that COV is a killer on its own. People start to get lack and not wear a mask which protect the vulnerable and unvaccinated.
 
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